 wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb.. join:2003-07-30 Maineville, OH | Holy ROI!! $90k per site!!! That is a ridiculous cost! Isn't technology supposed to help reduce cost?
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 DesdinovaPremium join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | Hmmm... "...the Australian government has admitted they have no real criteria set as to what constitutes trial success or failure."
Seems to me that the criteria defining "failure" might be draconian efforts that do more to piss off end users and create an illusion of safety amongst the Truly Deluded and Hysterical than actually, ya know, doing anything useful.
And every time I hear someone cry "think of the children!" I'm never sure if they're against or FOR child pornography... | |
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| Re: Hmmm... said by cabana:I hear that there are these new fangled devices called parents/guardians... Really? Did they have them on display at E3 or something? I haven't heard of those applications yet.... Are they available for beta testing or trial period?
 -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | said by Desdinova:And every time I hear someone cry "think of the children!" I'm never sure if they're against or FOR child pornography... "Of course, it's worth noting that as part of the admission that the list has such a small percentage of what was supposed to make up the entire list, the Australian government says that it's having the police look into the leak of the list." As long as the list is secret it's a sure bet that the list is more about government tyranny and abuse than it is about the children. | |
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 |  RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | said by Desdinova:"...the Australian government has admitted they have no real criteria set as to what constitutes trial success or failure." Looks like they've been taking lessons from the US military brass... | |
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 |  RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy! said by Mr Matt:1) All land is owned by the government and is rented to property owners. We've effectively got the same thing here. Try not paying your property taxes (aka "land rent") and see how long the government waits before you are removed from the property.
said by Mr Matt:2) If a person applies for Australian citizenship and transfers their life savings into the country the government limits the amount of money they can transfer back out if they are dissatisfied with what they find there and decide to return to their country of origin. Again, see how fast and easily mere citizens can transfer money out of this country. | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| said by Mr Matt: 1) All land is owned by the government and is rented to property owners Where'd you read that?
My understanding is Australia has "Freehold" (private land) and "Crown lands" (Public lands.)
Yes, it is possible in Australia for some land to be privately owned leased Crown land. But this isn't all of it. It's only a small part of it. Most land is privately owned.
Or so I understand. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy! I'm not keen on the Parliamentary process, or the gun control, of Oz. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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| Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy! NormanS; not disagreeing with you really, but as I see it my comments would be as follows;
Gun Control First.
Can, I admit be a right pain sometimes. But as a Pistol and Rifle Club Armourer (Gun Dealer), Sports Pistol Coach, and Range Safety Officer I can say with some confidence that my 9mm Taurus, Taurus .357 and Colt Pocket Lightning are fairly well used, as is my selection of rifles, in particular the Kentucky Musket. 
Parliamentary System.
We have 3 levels of Government.
Shire/City/County Local Government. Having been a Town Councillor for nearly 8 years and a Deputy Town Mayor I think I know how that works, quite well actually. The usual Greenie Councillor, 3 or 4 farmers and a couple of local businessmen on the 9 member Council. All voted in by over 85% of the voting age population.
State Government. New South Wales, my State has an upper and lower house of Parliamentarians. All voted in. Two major political parties. Labour (the workers party) and Liberal (the white collar/business end of town)
Federal Government the same again.
EVERY person of age HAS to vote. So no real evidence of Tammany Hall style politics or ward heeling etc.
OK. So we have the odd venal politician, the odd dud one too, and the useless ones also. But on the whole I really cant complain about rampant corruption, malfeasance on a grand scale or bribery etc.
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 axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | Australia was the world leader in internet filtering
China was shocked that they'd fallen behind a democracy, so they introduced their new filtering software requirement. I wonder what Australia will do to keep up in this escalating censorship race? | |
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 |  JigsawStardust We ArePremium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH | Re: Australia was the world leader in internet filtering said by axus:China was shocked that they'd fallen behind a democracy, so they introduced their new filtering software requirement. I wonder what Australia will do to keep up in this escalating censorship race? Re-education... -- "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium join:2002-10-04 Alexandria, VA | That Can't Be a Real Government Program I mean, governments never go into big, expensive programs without setting adequate requirements or success criteria.  -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell | |
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