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Cleveland, OH | One day you'll realize no one really cares about you- they only care about your net worth. | |
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tangojoker
Peace
join:2004-01-25
Beaverton, OR | The government knows it and now google will too.
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Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Got mine last week... Out of nowhere, I got my invite last week. Joke's on Google however, as it was actually my second GV account. I now have two, and I use them both fairly often. There is still the latency issue however, and they need to sort that out ASAP. | |
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time said by TKJunkMail  : The calls are NOT VOIP. They are thru the regular switched phone network. [att=1] Actually the calls are VOIP. They are just using a web callback system and of course they terminate at the PSTN on both ends. But the call is definitely a VOIP call. There was a hack a while ago that allowed you to use a SIP phone to use Google Voice for free calls. But Google closed the gateway. But at least you can still use it for the web callback number. | |
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Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time said by dcdeadbeat :said by TKJunkMail : The calls are NOT VOIP. They are thru the regular switched phone network. [att=1] Actually the calls are VOIP. They are just using a web callback system and of course they terminate at the PSTN on both ends. But the call is definitely a VOIP call. There was a hack a while ago that allowed you to use a SIP phone to use Google Voice for free calls. But Google closed the gateway. But at least you can still use it for the web callback number. I don't consider it full VOIP unless the call isn't on the PSTN at all. All Google is doing is using the internet backbone for transport. It is more like Comcast's CDV than it is like Vonage.
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join:2008-03-28
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time Yeah, it's a matter of "perspective". For the person with only a POTS landline, none of his/her calls are VoIP. For the person who only has VoIP service (for example, Vonage or CDV), all calls are VoIP. Whether it's packet-based or circuit-switched at different points in between is irrelevant to the customer (which says nothing about call quality).  | |
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join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by dcdeadbeat :said by TKJunkMail : The calls are NOT VOIP. They are thru the regular switched phone network. [att=1] Actually the calls are VOIP. They are just using a web callback system and of course they terminate at the PSTN on both ends. But the call is definitely a VOIP call. There was a hack a while ago that allowed you to use a SIP phone to use Google Voice for free calls. But Google closed the gateway. But at least you can still use it for the web callback number. I don't consider it full VOIP unless the call isn't on the PSTN at all. All Google is doing is using the internet backbone for transport. It is more like Comcast's CDV than it is like Vonage. But the fact that it travels over the Internet and not the entire PSTN from end to end makes it by definition VOIP.
Using your definition SKype-Out would not be VOIP either.
But the truth is that this is VOIP. It just terminates to the PSTN at two points instead of just one.
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join:2007-02-19
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time Then again, your cheap LD providers probably also use packet-switched voice on the long haul. Seems what Google is doing here is just that, so it's no more VoIP-ish than, say, the penny-a-minute VoIP-powered LD plans out there these days.
Also FWIW Google Voice is awesome. I've used the callback feature several times to ring a landline and connect me to an otherwise-LD call. My family's landline (LifeLine for whatever reason is on there, so the bill is just a few bucks a month for unlimited local and inbound, nothing else) is suddenly empowered with GV, so I'm hapy.
As an added bonus, my 210 area code number effectively serves as a free calling card at San Antonio International Airport, in case my power-hungry cell goes dead | |
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time said by iansltx :Then again, your cheap LD providers probably also use packet-switched voice on the long haul. Seems what Google is doing here is just that, so it's no more VoIP-ish than, say, the penny-a-minute VoIP-powered LD plans out there these days. Also FWIW Google Voice is awesome. I've used the callback feature several times to ring a landline and connect me to an otherwise-LD call. My family's landline (LifeLine for whatever reason is on there, so the bill is just a few bucks a month for unlimited local and inbound, nothing else) is suddenly empowered with GV, so I'm hapy. As an added bonus, my 210 area code number effectively serves as a free calling card at San Antonio International Airport, in case my power-hungry cell goes dead But it is VOIP. They use SIP for the connections and terminate with L3.
Why is this so difficult fore people to understand? It is VOIP just like Skype, Vonage, Verizon Business, etc. | |
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time When people think VoIP they think of having to have some box (ATA, computer, eMTA, MagicJack dongle, tin can with an Ethernet port) that's not the same as their typical RJ-11 or GSM/CDMA based fixed or mobile phone.
I agree that Google Voice is VoIP...what smart provider wouldn't be? However I'll bet some cellular companies route their calls over IP transport at this point, and VoIP-based long distance is what makes calling inside and outside the US cheap.
Yes, I'm blurring the line here but so is Google. GV isn't your daddy's VoIP and honestly the average Joe doesn't care how his call is routed (circuit-switched, packet-switched, laser beams, smoke signals, carrier pigeons) as long as the darned thing works  | |
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join:2008-10-07
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| Re: Goggle Voice is great - been using a long time said by iansltx :When people think VoIP they think of having to have some box (ATA, computer, eMTA, MagicJack dongle, tin can with an Ethernet port) that's not the same as their typical RJ-11 or GSM/CDMA based fixed or mobile phone. I agree that Google Voice is VoIP...what smart provider wouldn't be? However I'll bet some cellular companies route their calls over IP transport at this point, and VoIP-based long distance is what makes calling inside and outside the US cheap. Yes, I'm blurring the line here but so is Google. GV isn't your daddy's VoIP and honestly the average Joe doesn't care how his call is routed (circuit-switched, packet-switched, laser beams, smoke signals, carrier pigeons) as long as the darned thing works I agree that most people don't care how their phone calls are transported. The only reason this does matter is a legal one. VOIP providers don't have the same regulations (or uptime guarantee) that telcos (ILECS and CLECS) do.
People are accustomed to their traditional phone (PSTN) working all the time (and with 911). VOIP works when it works. There is no quality or regulatory control with VOIP.
So people need to be made aware of this when ditching their traditional phone lines for a service like Google Voice or Skype (Skype even warns about this on their website).
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| Waiting for number portability I'm just waiting for Google Voice to add the ability to port my mobile number into their service. Rumors abound that they've done this for a few test users, but it's not regularly available.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Waiting for number portability said by rsrussell :I'm just waiting for Google Voice to add the ability to port my mobile number into their service. Same here... One less bill for me!
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San Ramon, CA | No thanks... At least the phone and cable co's spy on your voice calls for Uncle Sam. Google just does it for their own pocketbooks.. | |
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| Re: No thanks... Just curious. Do you have any proof that Google is spying on voice calls? And by spying, I don't mean automatically running voice calls through a speech-to-text computer system so that users can read transcripts of their calls. (Unless you also have proof that Google employees are reading those transcripts.)
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Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| Re: No thanks... said by googlevoiceuser :
Is free because they mine your voice for voice recognition software among other things. It was on the grand central tos and I assume on google voice after the transfer but I never bother saving them... It did specified that your conversation and or voicemauls will be used for resraech or studies
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March 10th, 2009
The Google Privacy Policy describes how we treat personal information when you use Google's products and services, including information provided when you use Google Voice. In addition, the following describes our privacy practices that are specific to Google Voice.
Personal information
You need a Google Account to access Google Voice. Google asks for some personal information when you create a Google Account, including your alternate contact information and a password, which is used to protect your account from unauthorized access. A Google Account allows you to access many of our services that require registration. You will also be asked to choose a Google Voice phone number that will be assigned for your use, and any forwarding telephone numbers that may be used in conjunction with the service.
Google Voice stores, processes and maintains your call history, voicemail greeting(s), voicemail messages, Short Message Service (SMS) messages, recorded conversations, and other data related to your account in order to provide the service to you.
When you use Google Voice, Google's servers automatically record certain information about your use of Google Voice. Similar to other web services, Google Voice records information such as account activity (including storage usage, number of log-ins), data displayed or clicked on (including UI elements, links); and other log information (including browser type, IP-address, date and time of access, cookie ID, and referrer URL). Google's servers also automatically collect telephony log information (including calling-party number, forwarding numbers, time and date of calls, duration of calls, SMS routing information, and types of calls).
Uses
Google maintains and processes your Google Voice account and its contents to provide the Google Voice service to you and to improve our services.
Google's computers process the information in your messages for various purposes, including formatting and displaying the information to you, playing you your messages, backing up your messages, and other purposes relating to offering you Google Voice.
Google may send you information related to your Google Voice account or other Google services.
Voicemail Transcription - if you use Google Voice's voicemail transcription service, Google may transcribe voicemail messages into text and email and/or SMS the resulting text to the email account or phone number(s) designated in your user settings. Google's computers process the information in your messages for various purposes, including formatting and displaying the information to you, delivering related links, backing up your messages, and other purposes relating to offering you Google Voice.
Information sharing and onward transfer
We do not sell, rent or otherwise share your personal information with any third parties except in the limited circumstances described in the Google Privacy Policy, such as when we believe we are required to do so by law.
Your choices
You may change your Google Voice account settings and you may upgrade or downgrade your account through the "settings" section.
You may organize or delete your call history, voicemail greeting(s), voicemail messages (both audio and/or transcriptions), Short Message Service (SMS) messages, and recorded conversations through your Google Voice account or terminate your account through the Google Account section of Google Voice settings. Such deletions or terminations will take immediate effect in your account view. Residual copies of deleted data and accounts may take up to 90 days to be deleted from our active servers and may remain in our offline backup systems. Call history for billable calls will remain visible on your account and be retained in Google systems for accounting purposes. Call history for billable calls will retained in Google systems for accounting purposes.
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It Is Almost Fast
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| invites? most of us who had/have Grand Central have already been updated to GV. It seems to be good stuff, and quite useful once you get your Google number out there.
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join:2009-06-21
Jamestown, CA | what's the big deal Isn't it just like Skype? | |
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join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
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| Re: what's the big deal said by 05211257 : Isn't it just like Skype? Skype cannot direct a phone call to multiple phone numbers and they charge for Skype Out calls.
SipGate offers a similar one phone call to multiple calls but charges for outbound calls. | |
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join:2009-06-21
Jamestown, CA | Re: what's the big deal so if I have a smart phone, with Gmail account
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join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | I dunno One of my coworkers uses it, and apart from the speech to text, I can do everything on my asterisk server.
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join:2001-08-07
Ridgecrest, CA
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| I'm currious. Would there be a way to cancel my voip service and switch to google? I guess I'm asking, would google offer a device that I could plug my phone and internet into to make calls like a traditional voip provider? I don't know how much longer my voip is going to be around and it would be nice to have a provider that is strong enough to take on all of the challenges out there. I don't want a bundled phone service.
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join:2003-10-23
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| Re: I'm currious. Do you use Gizmo5? You can set up GV to forward to G5 via sip. You make outgoing calls by logging into GV and using the call button. G5 is free for sip to sip which is what GV to G5 would be, and GV is currently free. It's a minor inconvenience for outbound calls but hey its free. | |
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join:2008-11-01
East Elmhurst, NY
| said by strange_69 :Would there be a way to cancel my voip service and switch to google? I guess I'm asking, would google offer a device that I could plug my phone and internet into to make calls like a traditional voip provider? No. | |
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join:2001-08-07
Ridgecrest, CA | Re: I'm currious. Too bad. I would like to still be able to use my traditional phones.
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join:2009-03-30 | Re: Free Outgoing Verizon Wireless Calls Using GV You can change how the Caller ID is displayed if you goto the Settings, Caller ID and select Display my Google Voice number. I hope this helps. | |
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