  ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
1 edit | OOL?> quote:
That's right, West Fargo is getting DOCSIS 3.0 before any part of New York City.
Um..isn't OOL on Docsis 3? | |
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 | | | Re: OOL?> Yeah, whoops forgot about the Bronx and Brooklyn and was thinking Time Warner Cable in Manhattan. Thanks. | |
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| |  RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | Re: OOL?> said by Karl Bode:Yeah, whoops forgot about the Bronx and Brooklyn and was thinking Time Warner Cable in Manhattan. Thanks. As well as the rest of the CV Footprint such as Westchester and Rockland Counties, the Non-NYC Parts of Long Island, and Northern NJ. Any CV customer can get DOCSIS3 right now (so long as they are willing to pay the $340 paperwork and install fee). | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | They also upped DOCSIS 1.1 speeds Their highest packages in other areas is now 25/2 (up from unthrottled/768) and the low-end is 1024/384. Not bad for a smaller cableco...though higher uploads on DOCSIS 3 would be cool. | |
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: They also upped DOCSIS 1.1 speeds At least it has no cap. that is ALWAYS a win. | |
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| | nyc yeah OOL is on docsis 3 in parts of brooklyn and bronx only. time warner is slow to launch in manhattan,brooklyn,queens,staten island. | |
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| | No caps = high price Nice to see that providers are now going to justify ludicrous pricing by saying that their subscriptions don't have caps. Don't make something that should be totally normal and to be expected as something that is new or worthy of a high price. | |
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| | | Re: No caps = high price I agree, but to be fair this cable company is small and doesn't have the economy of scale or resources that the larger operators have.
Hopefully their release of a very high-speed tier is accompanied by an increase in the speeds of the lower tiers.
If not then a ludicrously expensive 50mbit tier won't mean much to anyone but the most hardcore of users. | |
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Part of it may be their size. That ain't as big as cablevison or TW, and they don't have the financial backing the big cablecos do. And also smaller ISPs usually have a higher price than big ones. | |
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| | | | Re: No caps = high price Exactly, here is a smaller ISP going DOCSIS 3.0. They don't have no where near the amount of funding Comcast or Time Warner have and they have to spend more for their lines unlike Comcast or TW who have the financial backing and pay next to nothing for their lines (because they own them or get it at dirt like prices). So why the delay? Why are they dragging their feet? Why do we have to pay ungodly amounts for up-to-date systems when they only have to pay a fraction of the price per subscriber to upgrade their systems? | |
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| | Mini review I live in Sioux Falls and am very happy with their service. They did give an upgrade for their lower tiers. They called ahead of time warning me their would be a cost increase of $5 for which was for their mid-level tier. It is 15Mbps down / 1mbps up, was 10 down / 512 up. Firmware was updated automatically on modem. My pings have been pretty low and steady (no dropped packets).
Pricing is pretty competitive. The package I have is phone with unlimited long distance (call waiting, id, etc), internet (15down/1up), cable 1 premium channel, about 36 HD (1080i)channels, HDDVR receiver, HD receiver( no dvr) and sports package, basic for $125 after taxes and fees for 1st year. Now its about $162 after taxes and fees.
As long as it doesn't get abusive they allow to switch a premium channel with another for free on the fly. I haven't seen any downtime in 2 years for cabletv, internet has been down maybe 3 times in 10 years other than the scheduled maintenance which they mail out a letter to give a 30 day notice. And no signed contract which is what I was interested in.
In these days of poor customer service, I think it should be noted company's like this should be given a pat on the back. | |
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| | Smaller ISPs PenTeledata/Service Electric has had D3 out here in NW NJ/E. PA for a little less than a year now.
Besides, why the big deal about D3? NYC has FiOS anyway. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| Re: Smaller ISPs Here's the difference: SEBB is 30/2 on DOCSIS 3 (Cablevision did that on DOCSIS 1.1) and is capped at less than 200GB. Whereas Midco offers 25/2 on DOCSIS 1.1 (everywhere) and 50/5 on DOCSIS 3 (some places) with no caps on a slightly higher quality network (three Tier 1 carriers vs. a bevy of tier 2 connectivity, plus XO). | |
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| | | | Re: Smaller ISPs said by iansltx:Here's the difference: SEBB is 30/2 on DOCSIS 3 (Cablevision did that on DOCSIS 1.1) and is capped at less than 200GB. Whereas Midco offers 25/2 on DOCSIS 1.1 (everywhere) and 50/5 on DOCSIS 3 (some places) with no caps on a slightly higher quality network (three Tier 1 carriers vs. a bevy of tier 2 connectivity, plus XO). That's true. I have the 30/2 tier with a 100GB cap and it stinks.
Unfortunately there aren't any viable alternatives out here. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Smaller ISPs I'm just saying that Midco actually takes full advantage of DOCSIS 3, whereas SEBB might as well be using DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0. They also have no caps. So slightly skewed comparison. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Smaller ISPs said by iansltx:I'm just saying that Midco actually takes full advantage of DOCSIS 3, whereas SEBB might as well be using DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0. They also have no caps. So slightly skewed comparison. I wasn't actually comparing the two, just saying that the tech was available out here.
My main point was that in NYC itself there isn't really a shortage of connectivity options, as the city has a FiOS franchise agreement and multiple cable ISPs including Cablevision, Time Warner and RCN. (CV and TWC do serve different areas, but RCN overbuilds in some areas). | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Smaller ISPs However Manhattan (TWC) doesn't have D3 yet, and RCN isn't D3 yet. | |
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 DeftStros in '08Premium
join:2003-09-06
Grand Forks, ND
·Midcontinent Com..
| Hopefully it comes more north! I love midco! nothing but great service.. i get around 16+megs download and about 2megs upload.. like the above poster said they did a nice upgrade and well it didnt cost me anything.. and im on the 114.99 tier.. HD about 30chans, interweb is rated unthrotlled but now its 25megs and 2meg like i said..
They havent had a "cap" since ive had them and really dont think they will have a cap.. great local isp!! unlike commiecast and rat runner.. dunno if i'll upgrade i like my 49.99 rate for internet. now people will know us.. up here in the artic tundra! | |
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