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FCC Wants Your Thoughts On Broadband Plan Workshops
FCC will use August, September to discuss what needs fixing...
by Karl Bode 01:43PM Friday Jul 31 2009
Blair Levin, the man in charge of the FCC's national broadband plan, wasn't impressed with the first round of public input on how best to achieve our national broadband goals. According to Levin, "sloppiness" and the "lack of seriousness and purpose" in most comments weren't useful to the agency in formulating a plan. Don't cry however, as it looks like you'll be given another chance to impress Mr. Levin. The FCC's new broadband-focused website has listed a slew of public workshops aimed at hashing through various broadband policy issues.

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The FCC this week invited the public to contribute their thoughts on the list, or to add additional subjects for discussion. So far, the list of workshops include everything from how broadband can't improve health care, to issues surrounding wireless markets and spectrum use. In a press release, new FCC boss Julius Genachowski insists the workshops are the roots of a transparent process:
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"Broadband is our generation’s major infrastructure challenge. It’s critical that all stakeholders provide the Commission with the information it needs to develop a National Broadband Plan that will spur innovation, promote competition, create jobs, and bring the powerful benefits of broadband to all Americans. The effort to focus dialogue on specific topics in an open, participatory format is one of the many ways the Commission is trying to develop a comprehensive and meaningful record for the development of the Plan."
The FCC is scheduled to unveil the plan to Congress by February 16, 2010. While the agency has stated that they'll (frighteningly for the first time) use scientifically-sound data in making policy decisions, Genachowski's otherwise been very murky in terms of what concrete ideas he plans to bring to the table.

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baineschile
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Fiber.

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Re: Fiber.

said by baineschile:

Municipal. Everywhere. Free.
Okay if you pay my tax bill. Otherwise its just another Big government waste of money.

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Re: Fiber.

said by DaveDude:

said by baineschile:

Municipal. Everywhere. Free.
Okay if you pay my tax bill. Otherwise its just another Big government waste of money.
Why not? We're burning money everywhere else, why stop now? Keep it going.
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said by baineschile:

Municipal. Everywhere. Free.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

And goverment has no business competing with private enterprise.
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Re: Fiber.

said by SuperWISP:

And goverment has no business competing with private enterprise.
So what about public schools? They deprive private schools of business.

joebarnhart
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Actually there are small FTTH ISPs (such as »www.paxio.com) who are eager to extend their reach but they just don't have the borrowing capacity to extend. The availability of capital in the US is really terrible after the financial crises and bailouts. Nobody wants to lend to small business. If the govt just backed low-cost "infrastructure" loans, then capitalism would to the rest. Capitalism, after all needs capital!
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well

Why do we need a new infrastructure deigned by the government? Can they just pay for customer's broadband bills? I think this is none sense to start from scratch. They should deploy their own infrastructure where broadband is not avaiable. but ISP's that already have it setup they should just pay the bills for the customer's.

SLD
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Re: well

How about "Cash for Clunker Modems!"
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Re: well

haha good one. : )

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said by brianiscool:

Why do we need a new infrastructure deigned by the government? Can they just pay for customer's broadband bills? I think this is none sense to start from scratch. They should deploy their own infrastructure where broadband is not avaiable. but ISP's that already have it setup they should just pay the bills for the customer's.
And who, pray tell, is actually going to PAY for those "bills"?
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Re: well

Your taxes and it will be cheaper at the end than each individual in a home paying for internet service.
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Since the tax payers (the government) are the subscribers, you're suggesting that we should all pay our own bills? I agree.

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2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

After looking over the list of workshops and checking out what they will discuss, I think that 2 workshops will be the key to what eventually determines WHERE the stimulus money will be spent and what the basic thrust of the Broadband Plan will be.

»www.broadband.gov/ws_deployment_···ved.html
This will flesh out what are to be called unserved & underserved areas and where the money according to the stimulus bill must be spent.

»www.broadband.gov/ws_benchmarks.html
And this will determine if the money being spent is achieving its goals. And that will have a large effect on how future appropriations for broadband will be targeted.
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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

I think its just going to be a crony payout, like the spendulus. Seriously if they really wanted to increase broadband, they would just hire companies to install infrastructure.
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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

The "spendulus" as you call it has done its job in stabilizing the recession.

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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

said by sonicmerlin:

The "spendulus" as you call it has done its job in stabilizing the recession.
So why is unemployment and inflation rising, if anything , this is just a bump which was predicted in February. The economy will get worse over the winter.

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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

said by DaveDude:

said by sonicmerlin:

The "spendulus" as you call it has done its job in stabilizing the recession.
So why is unemployment and inflation rising, if anything , this is just a bump which was predicted in February. The economy will get worse over the winter.
Actually the economy should be improving thru mid 2010:
»news.morningstar.com/articlenet/···=2684014
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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

said by FFH:

said by DaveDude:

said by sonicmerlin:

The "spendulus" as you call it has done its job in stabilizing the recession.
So why is unemployment and inflation rising, if anything , this is just a bump which was predicted in February. The economy will get worse over the winter.
Actually the economy should be improving thru mid 2010:
»news.morningstar.com/articlenet/···=2684014
Its only temporary, thats what i am talking about, from your article.



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Re: 2 key workshops will decide where stimulus money spent

Ya the stealfromus plan worked great we (the tax taxpayers) got robbed blind

and now they're going to tax the employers even more thus killing more jobs and creating more wellfare people

so as soon and this bump runs out we're doomed
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said by sonicmerlin:

The "spendulus" as you call it has done its job in stabilizing the recession.
The "unemployment" statistic is only counted while your on Unemployment Benefits and they do "race" and "economic" weighting to make that statistic useless anyways. As people loose benefits, they disappear from the statistic making everything rosy. What about the homeless who have no phone number you can reach them at and cellphone only households?
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The infrastructure is there in many places, however it isn't open. Cable and DSL are increasingly FTTN, but those same companies aren't willing to let other providers tap into that fiber at the node level and deploy the last few thousand feet of glass.
rdmiller

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No progress

This is pretty much the same list they had a month ago. One month of public comment has yielded zilch.

XBL2009
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Blair Levin is fooling himself

Blair Levin is fooling himself...

1. Telcom's own Congress.

2. Only an Australia style billion dollar nationwide fiber network would make a difference.

3. Telcom's own Congress.
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Re: Blair Levin is fooling himself

Not to pick on you personally, but I believe this is exactly the type of comments that Blair Levin is referring to...

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Re: Blair Levin is fooling himself

said by AVonGauss:

Not to pick on you personally, but I believe this is exactly the type of comments that Blair Levin is referring to...
the problem with that is he discarded all of the good suggestions because he got a couple of those type comments. I mean really, what did he expect. After years of the consumer getting increasedly worse services at higher prices, he expects a cordial comments about the future broadband utopia without any comments on how we're getting nickel and dimed by carriers who run rough shot over a congress that doesn't have a clue over these issues?
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America could build the best broadband network in the entire world but due to corruption it will NEVER get done. At&t and Comcast will never allow more competition.

Leave it to Japan, France, Sweden, Korea, etc, to surpass America.

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Re: Blair Levin is fooling himself

said by XBL2009:

America could build the best broadband network in the entire world but due to corruption it will NEVER get done. At&t and Comcast will never allow more competition.

Leave it to Japan, France, Sweden, Korea, etc, to surpass America.
Well, a guy from Chicago would know especially with a AOL avatar running. Is that Steve Case?

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Re: Blair Levin is fooling himself

said by cameronsfx:

said by XBL2009:

America could build the best broadband network in the entire world but due to corruption it will NEVER get done. At&t and Comcast will never allow more competition.

Leave it to Japan, France, Sweden, Korea, etc, to surpass America.
Well, a guy from Chicago would know especially with a AOL avatar running. Is that Steve Case?
No, it's Ed Whitaker, he's jumping for joy.
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we need...

CAPS, CAPS, and more CAPS just like Canada!

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Re: we need...

Hey, I'd LOVE a 100GB cap...on a 3G connection

SLD
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Will he listen

Will he listen to us this time, or do the telcos/cablecos have his ear bent too hard?

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Time to Lobby Ourselves

We the consumers and taxpayers...let our voices be heard. Not just with this opportunity. Let them be heard by those folks whose salary we pay (aside from the kickbacks and such they may get from....)....those people we vote for (or not) our elected officials. Does it seem like we are hitting our heads against the wall when we do so? Sometimes...Just pad it and go at it again!! While you got their ear, let them know what else is on your mind. As it was going...we haven't much left to loose as it is.

I dunno about anyone else...but enough is enough!! Go for it!!
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Public owned pipes; private providers

Let's finally level the playing field and create a public fiber network. Telco and cableco can jump on and provide services as well, but this also allows others to compete for phone/internet/tv service. Imagine Utah's UTOPIA on a national scale.
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Only wireless or will work

In the rural areas only wireless or fiber will work. In the short term a beefed up wireless network would give the rural areas some broadband. I use a laptop in the field in areas that you may or may not see the next house and the web pages that are not too busy pop up reasonably fast. This would be a stop gap measure until fiber could be placed to each house.
The other problem is many of these homes have a hard time paying the POTS bill and would have a hard time with a broadband bill twice that amount even if VOIP was included in the bill at basically no cost.
The problem is who pays the ROI return on investment is not there because the density and disposable income is not there. It will have to be taxes or the subscribers in the city will have to subsidize the rural area cost. Even in the cities companies barely get a return before the equipment has to be upgraded.

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