Bell Canada Creates Canadian Counter-Movement

Until we started digging under their rock consumer interests were usurped by the big telcos.

Now that we are calling for their dismissal, looking into questionable spending perks and shady deals
the sunlight is getting little warm for the complacent sycophants.

It's embarrassing how corrupt the CRTC is...I thought this was Canada, not ...

Yes, very many of us here in the 'Great White North' share Mike Lerner's feelings.

It's only that he demonstrated the guts to do something about it, as did certain others in our fold.

But suffice it to say that not all Canadians fit the so-called stereotype of being polite to an excess, and when the only way up here to get some attention/action and fair and ethical treatment from the telco's is to squawk, well guess what, WE'RE GONNA SQUAWK !

In this regard, both independent ISPs and their subscribers are the two groups who are most unhappy that Bell Canada is trying to walk all over us to stifle reasonable competition.

After all, ever so many of us end users ALREADY LEFT Bell ONCE and migrated to the Indie ISPs because we felt poorly treated as direct Bell customers.

And in effect, by their recent actions and proposals to the CRTC, Bell is trying to make those of us who left Bell all feel an ominous sense of deja vu.

Bell must be stopped, and perhaps split up into a separate wholesaler of services and a retail ISP/TV/Phone provider, each operated at arms' length from the other, and since we sincerely doubt that our current CRTC will show the balls to make that any of that happen, we need to replace them with folks who just might take that concept (and us end users) seriously !

(Hence the creation of Mike's petition, etc.)

Thanks for reading.

Cheers !

Well written, well spoken and well said.

»Bell Canada Creates Canadian Counter-Movement [17] commentsOn the other hand maybe the Indie ISPs do ban together, but against Bell Canada.

Indie ISPs should ban together and start creating their own network.

they don't need to. The Bell Canada and Telus networks were built using tax money. We already own it.

What I always hear is we need more regulation, we need government to step in and do something. Yet it was the government that created these monopolies in the first place through these subsidies. It was government that killed competition. Then we have a government regulatory body like the CRTC for the purpose of leveling the playing field. Are people are really this blind? Government creates the problem and then gives you the solution, which is more government.

We own nothing, that infrastructure we paid for is sold back to us. Corporate socialism is working.

no you don't own it. It was given to the companies and is now owned by them.

Get rid of those CRTC turkeys! They are bad for Canadian consumers.

The 3rd party ISP's wouldn't exist without the CRTC. I don't think the bell/rogers/telus/shaw would lease out their lines/equipment if the CRTC didn't force them too.

I hate our Canadian ISPs as much as the next guy.. but people tend to forget its CRTC regular that created the 3rd party isp's in the first place. Dissolving the CRTC, would probably disolve the sharing of equipment.

I dont think we need to care anymore how all of it was formed. Bottom line it was not properly and not properly planned for the future.

So now it needs to be fixed. Whether its in the consumers best interest or not, the North America network to the rest of the world will simply just fail.

The network world is the same in Murphys Law.

Networks Grow, never get smaller. DPI throttling and UBB practices obviously do not allow networks to grow.

its PROVEN PROVEN PROVEN Any computer "idiot" knows this.

I find it more amusing to see how government and/or regulator bodies fail when it comes to leading technology like a growing field with Network Technology.

i wont even bother with anymore analogies, if you all haven gotten the gist of what has been, still is, and will continue happening I just feel sorry for you now

.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The general Canadian population needs to be educated on the telecome issue. Broadband internet is just one aspect that is going down hill... what about overpriced Cable & Sattalite and the second highest wireless fees world wide?

Throttling, DPI inspection, have been thorns placed by the big telcos in our sides over the last 2 years. Has the general public heard about it? NO!! Why? Is it because the Bells, Rogers, et al also own significant shares in the radio, television, and news media, so they put the word out to SQUASH THE STORY!!

So John & Joan Public are deliberately and maliciously kept in the dark ... right up until they get their bill.

Time to cut the censorship on the news about IMPORTANT events, and let the people know what the hell's going on, and how it affects them.

Great going, Mike!

Here's another thread: »www.competitivebroadband.com/

Sad but true: »news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afri ··· 8056.stm
(The pigeon's better than 5M)

If it weren't for the economy being in shambles, this could have easily become an election issue. Too bad it won't, at least in the mainstream, but we as voters have the power to make it an issue.

The candidates in my local riding like to stake out the entrance to the subway station and "talk to voters" (shakes hands, hand out leaflets). It's the perfect time to talk to them directly without getting some runt hired to reply to letters/emails.

"What is your stance on net neutrality?"
"If elected, how will you ensure that the rights of Canadian internet/wireless providers are protected?"

Anyone have some other good ones?