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Hialeah, FL | Bah,,, I pay $30 bucks extra with Tmobile which allows me to browse on my phone and tether to my laptop. Anybody else think that verizon is a ripoff? Just. Wow.... | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Bah,,, it's not so much about an ability to tether, but rather complying with their TOS/AUP
knowing verizon, they can be pretty big assholes.
if they'll see that your droid suddenly has a user-agent of FireFox, or there's a download of fla movies from youtube while there is no flash on android, it's obvious the phone have been tethered and then verizon can start charging you by KB or forcefully terminate your service for breaking TOS/AUP.
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kudos:18 | Re: Bah,,, The last I checked the Droid does support Flash as well as YouTube.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Bah,,, said by Smith6612:The last I checked the Droid does support Flash as well as YouTube. you checked wrong.
"support youtube", ie downloading 3gp videos is not the same thing as going to the real www.youtube.com and downloading real .FLA movies.
none of the android phones support real flash yet.
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Jewett City, CT | Re: Bah,,, It may support "Flash Lite" which is somewhere in-between Flash 6 and 7 in terms of functionality and compatibility. Almost completely useless these days since most sites require Flash 9+ Adobe has announced support for Flash 10 on mobile sometime late this year on select devices with more mainstream support later in 2011. I'm not convinced they're going to be able to pull it off. They announced Mobile Flash 7 years ago, delivered a couple of buggy slow releases, and gave up. Maybe things will be different this time? | |
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| | | wow i tether too from my tmobile phone to my laptop but i do it for free cuz i can root my phone, good luck with that on verizon. they are going to lock this phone down like no body's business. and they just announced that they are double there Early term fees, now its like $330, that crazy. | |
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|  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by evergreek:I pay $30 bucks extra with Tmobile which allows me to browse on my phone and tether to my laptop. Anybody else think that verizon is a ripoff? Just. Wow.... Were they to do a data-only plan that included tethering and *real* maximum monthly transfer allowances, it *might* make getting this phone - even if having to suck up the early phone switch fee - worthwhile. As is... Not so much.
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kudos:5 | I pay $15/month for my AT&T data plan. I can tether my phone to my laptop and the speed test shows 3000/200
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1 edit |  Same old same old
They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? | |
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| | | Re: Same old same old Simple enough. If you actually use anything like 5GB on the phone, they're going to accuse you of tethering and move you (retroactively) to the higher-priced plan. | |
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join:2001-06-15
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kudos:3 | I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. | |
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join:2003-07-20
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kudos:12 | Re: Same old same old said by gdm:I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. My friend called in yesterday to get his phone downgraded and they told him no. A friend (coincidentally) posted the same thing of my Facebook page yesterday too. | |
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join:2001-06-15
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kudos:3 | Re: Same old same old Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. | |
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| Re: Same old same old said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. | |
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join:2001-06-15
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kudos:3 | Re: Same old same old That's stupid though. ATT doesn't charge more to use exchange on personal or family plans. BIS to me is completely different then exchange. | |
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Park Ridge, IL | said by slckusr:said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity.
With other phones they just connect to the Net and go directly to their mail server--it's not like Verizon is filtering packets looking for Exchange usage. There's no need to pay anything extra and if you're a corporate customers then your company is paying for it anyway so what do you really care?
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kudos:12 | Re: Same old same old said by drmorley:said by slckusr:said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity. This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. | |
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join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL | Re: Same old same old said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.
If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
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| | | | | | | | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Same old same old said by drmorley:said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else.
There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. | |
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Park Ridge, IL | Re: Same old same old said by Matt:said by drmorley:said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else. There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. The PIN is linked to the IEMI/ESN and if the activation doesn't work correctly EA fails. It happens now and again and once VZW updates their records EA sails through.
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Same old same old said by techjockey:Wrong, you need to have the BES $45 plan. I have had to call the carrier numerous times to with the user on the phone to have their plan upgraded to make EA work. I believe I said that.
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kudos:4 | said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? Good point. Data is data and the rate should be the same no matter which device is creating it.
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If I get an android and it has the ABILITY to tether then thats why I bought the phone for its features. I shouldnt have to pay a monthly fee for a feature of the phone unless it requires verizon to actively maintain it.
Data is data and the plans should be written in stone... 30 bucks for 5GB... 40 for 10GB etc... | |
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| | | said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually:
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Same old same old said by Euphrates:said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually: » tech.ca.msn.com/pcworld-article.···22509198The extra 15 bucks is for business customers who are already paying that in the first place. Paying it in the first place? I'm not quite sure I understand that? My friend (and I did as well) has a Verizon phone in his name, a personal phone, and is being charges $45 for data. When he asked if he could reduce to the $30 a month plan, they said no because he accesses an Exchange server. | |
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join:2002-02-04
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kudos:1 | no surprise I am not surprised at all. It just seems like all of the cell phone carriers are greedy. If people are willing to pay this much, then the carriers will continue to charge these rates... | |
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|  ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Grafton, WV | Re: no surprise said by crazyk4952:I am not surprised at all. It just seems like all of the cell phone carriers are greedy. If people are willing to pay this much, then the carriers will continue to charge these rates... Especially when the phones are tied to specific carriers. Now, if phones were generic and could be used between carriers, then they would think twice about the high data charges. Along with the steep minute plans. | |
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| | Funny...how many will switch to this? With T-Mobile's recent outage and complaints about ATT and iPhone tethering, how many people will actually switch and pay this fee?
One of the BIG reasons Verizon is doing this is because they are still selling their network and not their price. | |
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|  VanPremium
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New Orleans, LA | I am sure some but I don't know anyone personally who will touch this.
Will just stick to my phone if this is the case. | |
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kudos:1 | Price demotivation At that price i would just get a Tmobile data card. There is no reason to pay $60 a month, when you can pay alot less, for some just as comparable. | |
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kudos:1 | This isnt news. Its 30$ to tether ANY phone with Verizon Wireless. | |
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| | | Re: This isnt news. said by slckusr:Its 30$ to tether ANY phone with Verizon Wireless. Not quite.
There are $45 plans and there are $30 plans.
To tether costs $15 and $30 extra respectively
So it's a TOTAL of $60 to have a phone data plan with tethering. | |
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00000 | Was that the pricing you were looking for? giggle. | |
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It happens across all carriers a radio will always act like a radio. I tell everybody I know to read the fine print on the box/manual/phone and it states can accept any form of interference. LOL
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join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN | Look [sarcasm]
Everyone needs to understand that using data through your phone is clearly different then using data through a laptop or whatever. See these data bits that are used when tethering cost Carriers extra so they must pass the expense onto us the customer to the tune of $30.00 dollars..
Personally I think this is a killer deal and I'm not sure why people have a problem paying this!!
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1 edit | Seems like a decent deal to me Droids major competitor doesn't permit 'official' tethering with the iPhone and you end up paying $60 more for an AirCard (which is what I do). I'd gladly pay $30 instead of $60. There are likely other carriers+phones that offer a better price.
Meanwhile the terms are clear up front. If you think the Droid plans with the big ETF are overpriced, don't buy it. There is no shortage of smartphones on the market. | |
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| | Are you kidding me? $30 + $30 + $15 = $75
For 5G of data, tethering, and unlimited texting. Carriers are just begging to become dumb pipes. I can't imagine paying that much and not being able to even talk on the damn thing. Bring on the VOIP apps, then I might be willing to pay this on a monthly basis. | |
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| | If there is a cap, what is behind the tethering cost? They are capping at 5gb, so whether you tether or not you can't get more data. There is no additional cost at all for tethering.
This is like than charging you 30 bucks a month to enable the usb port on your phone. | |
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join:2004-02-14
College Station, TX | RE Just more of the same people wanting something and feel they do not have to pay extra for it. You want to download videos and stuff over there wireless network, you should pay more "be allowed" to tether your device.
Kind of like how the people who look at MMOPRG's as stating that they should only have to pay the purchase price, and not the monthly recurring charge to maintain a presence in the game.
Same thing with people complaining about Blackberries. They are just like every other device. You get a voice/data plan. You can connect your Blackberry to exchange without going through BES using OWA or POP/IMAP. You want the convenience of everything synching instantly and access to contacts, tasks, etc, then you pay extra.
Too many people want something for too little or for nothing at all. | |
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|  GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:15 | Re: RE Well, my provider charges me $30 for 6GB, *including* tethering. Because if I'm paying for 6GB, I should be able to use it however I want. What does it matter if I consume my 6GB on-device or off-device? Either way, the same amount of data is consumed.
Luckily, my provider (currently) thinks the same way, although they've indicated that they intend to change this. | |
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Morristown, NJ | Now we know what ATT will charge... ...when they get around to rolling out iPhone tethering. Maybe, possibly $25, but I think VZ now gives them an excuse to do this for $30 as well.
Just my little prediction.
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Somewhat scathing review, and i see another "windows mobile killer", try hard gimmick touch iPhone wannabe. Wake me when the next iPhone is released.
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| | Sounds like a mess $75 and already with a 5GB cap. And thats not even including at least $59 a month for voice. Then taxes! Thats an easy $150 phone bill and a $350 ETF.
Then your locked to the Driod for 2 years with Verizons 4G 2 months away, with the Driod not being backwards compatable. Sounds like a bad deal to me. | |
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| | | Re: Not really news.. Combining the data map scandal, the high pricing, the poor build quality of the droid, and the app store being monumentally successful, i can see a few hypebuyers for the droid, but for this data plan.... Maybe a very few people with specific needs. If i ever ran into a cap with my iPhone i'd be calling att and letting them know that they lost their only real world advantage with vzw. Hasn't happened in 8 months with att + iPhone, but still 5 gig, i feel bad for droid users. 
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