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AT&T Launching New 24 Mbps U-Verse Tier
Baby bell says U-verse now serves 2 million users....
by Karl Bode Wednesday 09-Dec-2009 tags: dsl · bandwidth · AT&T U-Verse
Back in July you might remember that we reported on rumors that AT&T was busy cooking up a faster U-Verse tier that was supposed to drop before the end of August. A little behind the rumored schedule, AT&T directed our attention this morning to an announcement that the company is launching a 24 Mbps tier. Known as "AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet Max Turbo" to its friends, the new 24 Mbps downstream and 3 Mbps upstream (higher than rumors suggested) tier is launching today in Austin, San Antonio and St. Louis markets. The pricing of the new tier, straight from the horse's mouth:

AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet Max Turbo is available to eligible residential customers for $65 a month, under current promotional offers, as part of a bundle with AT&T U-verse TV. Professional standard installation is included for new U-verse TV customers, and current U-verse Internet customers can upgrade their package at any time without additional installation costs or appointments. New residential U-verse customers who bundle U-verse TV (U200 or higher), U-verse Internet (Pro or higher) with Wireless 450 (or higher) or U-verse Voice Unlimited will receive $200 back.

The faster speeds come with a new 32Mbps/5Mbps gateway profile that supports the higher speed and supposedly three simultaneous HD streams. Of course as we've explored far more frequently than AT&T would like, AT&T's decision to milk copper instead of moving to fiber means that distance limitations remain a thorn in AT&T's side. It's going to become more so as cable companies increasingly migrate to DOCSIS 3.0 and begin offering 50 Mbps (and in some cases 101 or 105 Mbps) tiers. No, not everybody needs that kind of bandwidth, but being unable to offer it will put AT&T at a marketing disadvantage.

Some U-Verse customer gateways sync at 100Mbps, but at 1,400 feet from the VRAD. 25Mbps sometime works well at distances of 3,000 feet, but issues arise closer to and beyond 5,000 feet. Many users are further than 3,000 feet -- and with AT&T now offering additional HD streams, things had been getting pinched. As such, AT&T is playing a constant balancing act involving compression and real time balancing of bandwidth versus HD demand. Last fall, AT&T changed their TOS to "manage customer expectations" in terms of getting fully advertised bandwidth and all HD capacity at the same time.

AT&T continues to tinker with the idea of bonded VDSL to help with these constraints, an idea which should allow the carrier to offer faster speeds at shorter loop lengths sometime in 2010. To offer bonded VDSL, AT&T will need to assign two DSLAM ports to each customer, and deploy a special residential gateway outside the house that can terminate two pairs -- assuming they're available. Bonded VDSL has been repeatedly delayed, but vendors insist that initial problems with chipsets have been resolved.

As an additional note, AT&T says they've now passed 2 million users with the U-Verse service.

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hamburglar_

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Great name

Is that like a super deluxe chinese buffet?

ptrowski
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Re: Great name

It's Secret Double Probation....

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Re: Great name

You mean Double Secret Probation - Mr. Flounder..
wistlo

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Re: Great name

I wonder where Senator Blutarsky stands on net neutrality.

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Re: Great name

said by wistlo:

I wonder where Senator Blutarsky stands on net neutrality.
Last I heard, and I just watched the DVD last night, is that it is now President Blutarsky.

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Re: Great name

Zero point Zero
FileZ

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Hopefully this spreads like wildfire across the entire country. It would be an excellent Xmas present from AT&T.

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Re: Great name

said by FileZ:

Hopefully this spreads like wildfire across the entire country. It would be an excellent Xmas present from AT&T.
Hope you have the VRAD in your front or back yard. With the limitations there will be few people that will actually be able to get those speeds.
jjgk
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Re: Great name

Good luck. I am only 150 feet from my VRAD and they told me I was too *close* and that was the problem with the TV locking up and digitalizing. They added 200' of twisted pair, that did not help, then he went out to the truck and brought in a box of CAT 5 cable. Now I measure some 650'. I still get occasional lockups. Max 18Mbps/1.5 is more like 9/1.5. It has been 2 years. One last try to our ATT Direct forum instead of Tier 1 and 2 and opps.

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riturno

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No worries for me. They can guarantee that I'll get 1.5 / 256 and might get 3.0/512 if I sign up right NOW.

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said by FileZ:

Hopefully this spreads like wildfire across the entire country. It would be an excellent Xmas present from AT&T.
HA HA HA, now that's funny.....
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said by FileZ:

Hopefully this spreads like wildfire across the entire country. It would be an excellent Xmas present from AT&T.
Given the propensity of AT&T's VRAD batteries to spontaneously explode, you might not be too far off with that "wildfire" analogy.

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Goldman

join:2002-06-21
Maumelle, AR
I'm waiting for the Super Duper Mega Colossal High Speed Internet Max Turbo
ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

Re: Great name

I'm just waiting for plain vanilla U-verse to make it to my neighborhood. The VRADs have been in place for 18 months, but that's about it.
jandar1

join:2006-01-16
Middleburg, FL

Re: Great name

It could be worse, ATT did the VRADS all around my area and moved on, totally missing a neighborhood of 250 homes in the process.

I can get UVERSE just about everywhere I check in a 2 mile radius from my house, save for my neighborhood.
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Re: Great name

I feel your pain. They went down the main state road, but have not run fiber from the VRAD farm 1/4 mile from my neighborhood to the crossbox that sits at the neighborhood entrance. No u-verse for me. Of course, if TWC gets their stuff going (I'm not holding my breath) and offers something better than 384k up, the desire to switch may diminish...

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said by hamburglar_:

Is that like a super deluxe chinese buffet?
That is what I thought too. What an terrible name, lol.
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BosstonesOwn

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I don't know about you , but the name makes me want to run out and subscribe ASAP.

Next Tier will be the Super Ultra Mega Speed Package. And Then We will have the Super Mega Ultra Speed Package on the next round of upgrades !

I for one look forward to the Ultra Super Mega Lightning Speed Package.

Stop with the Shitty naming scheme , if this is the best marketing can do , you need a new marketing department. Including a new vp of marketing. This isn't Japan where this shit will float.

High Speed Uverse
Home Network Uverse
Telecommuter Uverse

Real easy , Send me a check for this and half the VP's bonus and we can call it even AT&T. You would think these companies want to confuse the hell out of their customers.
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said by hamburglar_:

Is that like a super deluxe chinese buffet?
Good question. I'm holding out until they 'go plaid'.

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Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

There is a cabinet that would service my home that is still dark. Has been for 6 months. Waiting on AT&T is like masturbating with a cheese grater, slightly amusing but mostly painful.
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caseywor

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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

When they began putting in the VRADs in the Mobile area, where I live, it took several months before they had power service installed in some of them. The VRAD that services my neighborhood was installed last spring (2009), but they didn't power it for a while and start offering service until September. In their initial rollout, it seems that they got the fiber in place first, then placed some empty VRAD cabinets on the concrete pedestals quickly all over town, then came back and installed the power and equipment at a later phase. Maybe it won't be too long for you.
hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

the VARD on my block has power...the meter even spins on it...just no customers are being serviced yet.

Any plans to? NOPE! The street techs in my area even say, ATT hasn't said anything about what neighborhoods, they're busy trying to take out WOW in the city 3 streets over. While keeping in mind WOW used to be Ameritech's baby until Ed wanted out of the TV business.
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insomniac84

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Welcome to the year 2000. Honestly, it's best to just get cable and forget about AT&T and their garbage.

Even if you get served, it won't be long until you get some random line issue that knocks everything out that will take weeks to fix. Their excuse will be that the phone works, so you are low priority.

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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

said by insomniac84:

Welcome to the year 2000. Honestly, it's best to just get cable and forget about AT&T and their garbage.

Even if you get served, it won't be long until you get some random line issue that knocks everything out that will take weeks to fix. Their excuse will be that the phone works, so you are low priority.
And cable companies are any better?
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caseywor

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My neighbors are dropping cable at an alarming rate to get U-verse. That says to me that something about Mediacom isn't keeping them happy. The reliability I have had with AT&T has been great. When I had Comcast at my old house, I had a lot more issues than I have had with AT&T, DSL and U-verse. There is only 1100 ft of copper wire between my house and the neighborhood VRAD, I don't see where too much will go wrong with it, at lease on a regualr basic. So far, there has been no issues with line quality in my neighborhood in 3 years. With U-verse and also DSL, my speeds have been a lot more consistent than I had with cable, and more reliable. Cable plant does fail also.
hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

that tells me U-Verse offered them intro deals which WILL GO up and the customers will be back to Cable for the new intro deals.
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

said by hottboiinnc:

that tells me U-Verse offered them intro deals which WILL GO up and the customers will be back to Cable for the new intro deals.
AFAIK none of the U-verse deals are intro type deals, but I could be wrong. Cable is famous for those.

My opinion after being a customer of both, and watching the forums carefully, is that both cable and AT&T suck, but in different ways, and customer experiences vary widely. My advice is to find something that works for you and stick with it until it doesn't any more, then switch. I know that sounds like insipid advice but I think it actually works.

My personal journey started with cable TV + Internet and POTS, and ended with U-verse Internet and VoIP, and still cable TV. I'm quite satisfied right now because I know the failings of both and can deal with them, and I'm getting reasonably good service.
hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

this deal is an intro price. Many of the deals ATT pushes when going door to door are intro deals.

Cable maybe famous for the intro deal but at least during that you won't see your rate go up, like ATT has done countless times since being in the cable business again, even after they claim prices would go down.

ATT also only got the customers they did before the new year due to telling them that their cable TV service wouldn't work due to the digital change over. They'd get them worried they'd lose their services since cable wasn't doing anything about the change, and then found out in Feb. that CableTV is still around.

Come to Ohio and find out how many customers have left ATT to go back to Cable. Especially in the Toledo and Cleveland markets. Both cities HATE ATT and support the cable companies.
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

AT&T seems do be doing quite nicely with U-verse. They are pretty much growing as fast as they can install. They passed the 2 millionth customer recently according to the press release.

Like I said, they both suck in different ways, and people should find out what works for them.

I take with a grain of salt anyone who makes generic statements like "U-verse sucks! Anyone with a brain should just get cable!" or vice-versa.
hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

2million isn't much when you compare their entire foot print with who will or will not get service.

Many of their customers only get the service due to being stuck with them or they signed a deal they have to keep them or they repay the $200 back they got on that "gift" card.

Also you believe everything ATT has to say in their press releases?

Sounds like it. But then again, you're a customer.
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

said by hottboiinnc:

Also you believe everything ATT has to say in their press releases?

Sounds like it. But then again, you're a customer.
Dude. Come on. You're being ridiculous.

Information about number of subs is audited financial information that affects stock prices. Any company that lies about things like that ends up having CEOs/CFOs go to jail. It doesn't happen very often, and I think the chances of it happening with AT&T are non-existent.

Also, I'm not going to take the time to research it, because you are obviously biased and it wouldn't make any difference. But the last time I checked, AT&T's rate of signing up customers versus the number of homes passed was right up there with the industry, if not better.

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caseywor

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One of my neighbors that just got U-verse installed was in the middle of an intro deal from Mediacom when they dropped it. Once again, I wonder why they would do that if it weren't for a significant problem. I haven't had a chance to talk to them directly about why they dropped Mediacom, I just know they did after about 3 months with Mediacom and after getting a one year deal from them. Otherwise, the intro deals that U-verse is offering isn't as drastic as what Mediacom is offering, but U-verse seems to be getting plenty of takers in my neighborhood.

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said by insomniac84:

Welcome to the year 2000. Honestly, it's best to just get cable and forget about AT&T and their garbage.

Even if you get served, it won't be long until you get some random line issue that knocks everything out that will take weeks to fix. Their excuse will be that the phone works, so you are low priority.
If Comcast didn't have crap HD and a crap HD DVR, I would. In my area, the best HD is actually provided by satellite companies, which is sad. I wish Uverse were available....but thats neither here nor there.

Camelot One is right, cable companies are normally poor. I have Comcast for internet for the next 6 months though because they have faster internet than what AT&T can offer me on DSL. I hate their customer service, but at least their service in my area is solid as a rock.
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

I had better experience before AT&T took over Bellsouth. As of late, my AT&T DSL has been acting up. DNS timeouts, low thruput, dropped connections, etc. Usually a power cycle of the modem resolves the problem. I never had these issues as frequently now as I did when it was just BellSouth.
Comcast is my other option and I'm seriously considering going with them. Unfortunately, they are a small subsidiary of Comcast.
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hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

how is Comcast a subsidiary of Comcast? All the MSOs that CC took over now are all under the CC name and do business as such. They're not subsidiaries.
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

Ok so maybe subsidiary was the wrong choice of words. The history of our cable company:
Riverlands Cable-->Time Warner Cable-->Comcast out of Houma.

I feel like we are the bastard stepchild of Comcast. We have limited HD channels (20 with at least 5-8 not being worth a damn, IMHO). It wasn't until last year that we got Fox on HD. I had to go OTA to get the SuperBowl in HD 2 years ago. To my knowledge our Comcast is just stuck smack in the middle of a Cox (New Orleans/Baton Rouge) & Charter (Northshore) market. We do have a small local cable company, but their offerings are just as mediocre.
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CAPS.

Enough said.

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said by Nightfall:

Waiting on AT&T is like masturbating with a cheese grater, slightly amusing but mostly painful.
Ohhh my, gonna run out and try that one right now! On the way I'll tell the cheese grater, you can scream all you want, no one will be around to hear you!
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

said by spewak:

said by Nightfall:

Waiting on AT&T is like masturbating with a cheese grater, slightly amusing but mostly painful.
Ohhh my, gonna run out and try that one right now! On the way I'll tell the cheese grater, you can scream all you want, no one will be around to hear you!
Haha, guess the movie I got that quote from.
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doublea

join:2007-06-04
Petaluma, CA
I would love to get this new service, Im currently on the max 18 plan, but just barely.

I have found out that I am one out of 2 units out of 7 (that are closest to my house) that are on the 25/2 profile, Everyone esle is on the 19mbps profile. (Im kinda the local compurter tech for my neighborhood, so I check to see what profile they are on if they are ok with it. I do basic stuff like install printers and routers ect ect for them.) (And yes almost everyone in my neighborhood are on uverse now)

So I have to consider myself incredibly lucky to be on the 25/2 profile in the first place, my max sync is only 32mbps...

I agree with most everyone else, this new speed is avalible to a select few, in a select area, at a select price. Its nice to see att is rolling out new speeds to stay compeditive.

Although this speed/price is not compeditive with comcast, when not a promotional rate
Comcast 22/5 @ $62.95 (30/7 with speed boost)
ATT 23/3 @ $74.99

So for $12.04 you get 1mbps more down sans speeed boost, and 2mbps less upload....

Yeah im being hipocritical here, because I myself will never subsribe to comcast again, unless they seriously change the way they treat their customers.

/end rant
hottboiinnc
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Re: Certainly would be nice if I could get it.

and ATT is even better with Customer Service? They're lucky to even tell you their name when you call them let alone get anyone that knows what you're talking about.
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Cheesey

@myvzw.com
Cheese Grater... I Like that! LOL

I have been hearing "any time now" for YEARS. I would be happy with Basic DSL. Heck I would be ecstatic if I could get 56 K Dialup on my lines out here. (can't get over 28.8 on a good day)

Instead I have to pay $60 a month for mobile broadband. While I continuously get adds on 19.95 DSL. Only to once again get "We are sorry, not available in your area." I am VERY close to pulling my land line even!

Metatron2008
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What will the 30 mBit service be called?

Super At&t Uverse High Speed Street Fighter Turbo Alpha Omega Max HD Remix ?
Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX

Not In Cedar Park

I'm an FTTP customer with internet only in Cedar Park ( Austin Sub ). I was curious to see if it was available and if so, the pricing since I don't have video.

I just logged into U-verse and I don't show it as an option. Top is still Max Plus for $65/mo.

houkouonchi

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Ordering it as soon as its available

I am on 18/1.5 and the whole reason I ordered u-verse was hoping to get 24/2 before they rolled back the stuff. Anyway I am upgrading as soon as its offered in California.
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dlewis23

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Price drop on 18 and 12 Mbps?

If they are going to be doing this new tier for $65 per month, does that mean there is going to be a price drop on the 18 and 12 Mbps tier? Since 18 Mbps here is $65 per month.

I really don't need more of the download, but I do need more upload speed. Going from 1.5 Mbps to 2 Mbps isn't a huge bump, but its a nice little 60 KB/s bump in speed.
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Re: Price drop on 18 and 12 Mbps?

I notice it says 'residential customers for $65 a month, under current promotional offers'. Sounds like the regular price will be higher.

Also, the post mentioned the upstream speed would be 3Mbit. That is double your current 1.5Mbit.
george21546

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Hanover Park, IL

Re: Price drop on 18 and 12 Mbps?

Regular price will be $75 bucks

Metatron2008
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At&t? Drop prices? Not on my internets.
deadzoned
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Yeah

As long as your 5 feet or less from the DSLAM.

morbo
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Re: Yeah

I'm 5.5 feet. Dammit.

grizzled

@covad.net

AT&T milking the copper

This is just another - whoopee look at us we can offer U-verse. AT&T has been so busy playing the "me too" speed game with cable that it doesn't have time to upgrade the existing infrastructure of a lot of territory.. It's geting premium dollars for sub-standard DSL so why spend the dollars. Loved the comment re cheese graters and waiting for U-verse. Aptly stated!

caseywor

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23Mbps

I just upgraded to the U-verse 12Mbps tier from 6Mbps not long ago, and am happy for now. However, I just bought a PS3 and am doing the downloaded game demos and also the Netflix Watch Instantly, so I may need more speed, but don't feel like paying extra at this point. I guess it will come in handy to have it as an option. I am more intrigued at the prospect of U-verse being able to allow for more simultaneous HD streams. I think that is a major issue they need to deal with as well. So far, I love the service despite its technical limitations. In my area, Mediacom and Comcast offer slightly faster internet speeds and some good introductory offers, but people are dropping them for U-verse at an amazing rate.
hottboiinnc
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Re: 23Mbps

i love how everyone claims that "everyone in my area is dropping X cable company for U-Verse or FiOS at an amazing rate" or "everyone in my neighborhood has dropped XX for ATT or VZ".

If that was the truth the cable companies would offer better deals and drop pricing. Also remember how owns the programming that you purchase from ATT. Comcast owns a good share of it and will keep buying more and more. You're cable bill from U-Verse depends on Comcast.
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caseywor

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Re: 23Mbps

My neighbors are dropping cable, and Mediacom is offering better deals, ALL of the time! In fact, I get about one flier per week from Mediacom, all of which get filed in the trash. This past week, they just offered their "best deal ever." Sounds desperate to me. The deal was 24.95 per month individually for internet, phone, and digital cable for one year. I might have been enticed if I wasn't aware from other customers of their's how badly their TV service sucks and how unreliable they have been in the past. Mediacom even has people walking through the neighborhood knocking on doors on a monthly basis. If cable companies were sitting so pretty, why is this happening? Also, why would there also so many DirecTV, Dish Network dishes in the yards as well as AT&T trucks sitting in a yard installing U-verse so often? Your quote "Also remember how [sic] owns the programming that you purchase from ATT" is absolutely false. They have only bought ONE provider, NBC Universal. That doens't equal "the programming."

I realize you are talking about Comcast in your reply. However, fortunately for the sake of society, Comcast isn't the only cable company in the country. We have other ones that provide the same lackluster, partially anolog offerings as well. Mediacom and Comcast are virtually the same, sorry HD selection, partially analog, etc... I am a former Comcast subscriber and have friends with them now, I know what I am speaking about.

Yogibear722

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Consider yourself Lucky

Some of us in the sticks have only Mobile Broadband Cards and they are charging us $65 a month for 1.5MBS D/L and 384 kps upload, yes it beats landline speed But I haven't seen a Orange Fiber line not even 5000 ft from my house off a rural route. The best out here is EVDO and the phone companies still charge the same $65 a month.

caseywor

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·AT&T U-Verse

Re: Consider yourself Lucky

Don't feel too alone. My parents live outside of Birmingham, in a fast growing residential area. They are in that situation, despite the fact a lot of the homes close around them can get DSL. The phone lines in their immediate neighborhood, possibly 50 - 100 lines, are provisioned off of subscriber loop carriers (SLCs) and they still don't have a DSLAM to service them and their immediate neighbors. Its funny, they have built a bunch of new houses in the area near them, but AT&T has not made a move to service them. The cable company that serves the Birmingham area at large is Charter. I guess they have spent so much time being bankrupt that they haven't expanded their footprint into some newer neighborhoods in several years, so they are no help or option. There are some new subdivisions in my parents area with 200+ homes that still can't get cable. I guess my point is this: don't feel too alone. My aunt who lives near my parents has an AT&T air card, and others are stuck with Hughes Net. It just amazed me at the hop scotch availability in a fast growing, wealthy Birmingham suburban county (Shelby County). I have heard that AT&T asked one of my parents nighbors for a right of way for equipment, maybe that is a sign for them.

weaseled386

join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
Reviews:
·Bright House
·AT&T U-Verse

Re: Consider yourself Lucky

Depending on the type of SLC (96 or 96series5) DSL can be offered straight out of the channel bank, via Catena. If it's SLC96 they're out of luck.

In SLC5 they replace a card, I believe the CTU, with a Catena controller. If it's DS1 fed they can offer up to 48 subscribers DSL. If it's DS3 fed, which would require fiber in the first place, the entire channel bank can get DSL (both blue and white sides).

This is a very common scenario in Florida, in the hard to reach areas.

caseywor

join:2004-04-19
Mobile, AL
Reviews:
·Charter
·Mediacom
·AT&T U-Verse

Re: Consider yourself Lucky

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize they could provision DSL from the channel bank, I though for sure a separate DSLAM had to be in place. Their SLC hardware is old, hasn't been replaced since the 70s from the looks of it! I think they are fed by a DS1. However, some of the other SLCs in the area have been completely replaced in the last few years. The old one across the street from my grandparents old house (3 miles from my parents) was moved across the street and now fed with fiber. AT&T now offers DSL for that area and even has a VRAD in place for U-verse. I hold some hope for them since AT&T has spent money in the area and asked for new right of way for "hardware" from a neighbor. It just seems that their little corner area of homes had fallen by the wayside.
jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Euclid, OH

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I just want a 5/5. Why is that so hard?
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- "Techie" Jim

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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth, TX

I'm stuck

@ 1.544/384... Say it with me AT&T, "last mile", "under-served customers". Let's work on those too please.

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timcuth
Braves Fan
Premium
join:2000-09-18
Pelham, AL

How do you get it?

How do you get it?

Tim
MyDogHsFleas
Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:5
Reviews:
·Mediacom
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: How do you get it?

Assuming you're a current U-verse Internet customer, log onto the website and ask for the upgrade.

I'm in Austin, I tried it, and was denied. "Not available in your area." hmmm...

Also BTW it's $75/month, and they're offering a $20 rebate card if you upgrade.

GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL

Waiting...and waiting...

Some folks here in SoFlo have it, my in SW Broward cannot get it right now.

I'll be interested in the speed and the multi-DVR options but I'll be curious to see where they end up placing the equipment in our community.

We've heard maybe February it would be available. Of course our amazing HOA signed some pathetic 10 year agreement with Comcast, apparently by getting bullied by Comcast into thinking the contract was evergreen and basically they couldn't change to something else.
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TheGlobalMind.com / Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go? / Trust the instinct to the end, though you can render no reason. - Ralph Waldo Emerson / Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity.
ShadezeRO

join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: Waiting...and waiting...

said by GlobalMind:

Some folks here in SoFlo have it, my in SW Broward cannot get it right now.

Davie here, I don't see it yet. Actually, I'm not even sure on how to upgrade to the higher package

GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL

Re: Waiting...and waiting...

said by ShadezeRO:

Davie here, I don't see it yet. Actually, I'm not even sure on how to upgrade to the higher package
Yea the folks I know who have it are in Boca.

We'll see.
slcpd6469

join:2003-09-25
Saint Louis, MO

New cutomer price

Just priced it out in Saint Louis and its $75. So I guess the $65 price is only for existing customers.
Cheval

join:2004-02-08
Bartlesville, OK

yippee

wow this is nice for the 10 people that can get u-verse. Cable sucks and is expensive, too (I just dumped cable and got dish network and couldn't be happier).

Guess stuck with 6/768 DSL till the year 2145
Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

Upload is too slow for 24 Mbps tier

The upload should be at least 6 Mbps but preferably 10 Mbps before AT&T starts bragging about this being a high speed tier. In fact a 20/7 tier would probably be more useful.

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

Too far from the VRAD

I'm on the 25/2 profile, so it may not be possible for me to get these speeds until AT&T starts going with pair bonding (which I believe is going to start being rolled out next year).
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
MyDogHsFleas
Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:5
Reviews:
·Mediacom
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: Too far from the VRAD

No, the lower profile which means you're not gonna get it is actually 19/2. You may be OK.

What's your max synch?

To find out go here:

»home/xslt?PAGE=J03&THISPAGE=A02_···PAGE=J03

and enter your gateway password (check the sticky on the box if you don't know it).

doublea

join:2007-06-04
Petaluma, CA

Re: Too far from the VRAD

My max sync is 32mbps (my line has grounding issues, that apparently cant be fixed unless my entire driveway is removed. )

I do only have internet, So 23 32 but I cant see att making an exception for internet only people to get the faster speed on a lower profile, even if in therory the profile/line has enough speed to support the new internet rates.

Im on the 25/2 profile
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
kudos:1

Re: Too far from the VRAD

Cemented around it?

There's a way around that. But it involves removing a chunk of concrete near the meter pan and getting an expert borer to slowly work it an and push a conduit to it. All you need is a 3/4" conduit which can be done but you'd need to have a contractor do it.

io chico
Premium
join:2003-12-30
Chico, CA

What about rural?

I am so sick of companies repeatedly rolling out faster and cheaper service in cities that already have several choices for their internet.

What about placing some of this investment in rural areas?

C_Chipperson
Monster Rain
Premium
join:2009-01-17
00000
kudos:3

Re: What about rural?

said by io chico:

I am so sick of companies repeatedly rolling out faster and cheaper service in cities that already have several choices for their internet.

What about placing some of this investment in rural areas?
Because it's not profitable?
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Re: What about rural?

No, because the ROI is more then a year.

C_Chipperson
Monster Rain
Premium
join:2009-01-17
00000
kudos:3

Re: What about rural?

Same thing????????
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast

Re: What about rural?

Nope. Telephone cooperatives rolling out fiber to rural areas are profitable, but they have to amortize their bildout costs over ten or more years to get this profitability. Which is fine, because the infrastructure will definitely last that long. But shareholders don't like that one bit.

C_Chipperson
Monster Rain
Premium
join:2009-01-17
00000
kudos:3

Re: What about rural?

said by iansltx:

...shareholders don't like that one bit.
Exactly, neither would I if I were a shareholder. But I'm not. So deploy the fiber!!

kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet Max Turbo

This is the company that spent a billion dollars to rebrand from AT&T to at&t. Branding, clearly, is not their strength. But then again, neither is anything else. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single reason why this company is in business. What an absolutely stupid name for a product.
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»www.VoIPTrunk.com

Clever_Proxy
Premium
join:2004-05-14
Villa Park, IL

Re: AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet Max Turbo

said by kapil:

Come to think of it, I can't think of a single reason why this company is in business.
Because they are too big to go out of business

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