  Logan 5Enjoying the CataclysmPremium,MVM
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kudos:7 | A revolution through evolution... It was bound to happen that the Nexus One would be upstaged but man this was quick even by industry standards....
Seen the specs of the HTC Incredible and man... it makes the Nexus One look like a Model T compared to a Ferrari.. | |
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Naperville, IL | Re: A revolution through evolution... said by Logan 5:Seen the specs of the HTC Incredible and man... it makes the Nexus One look like a Model T compared to a Ferrari.. What do you mean?
both have the same processor and same screen, just some small differences here and there? | |
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kudos:7 | said by Dest:said by Logan 5:Seen the specs of the HTC Incredible and man... it makes the Nexus One look like a Model T compared to a Ferrari.. What do you mean? both have the same processor and same screen, just some small differences here and there? Sense makes the difference to me.... It makes the Incredible that much more.... incredible.  | |
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kudos:1 | I agree. I've had my Incredible since the the official release (pre ordered via web site). I have to say I love this phone. Verizon is going to sell a Shit load of them. As good, even better than my sisters iPhone 3Gs. The Incredible is THE phone to have on Verizon. Some can make arguments concerning the apps on the iPhone and iTunes, but no doubt Steve Jobs is losing sleep over this phone....
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: A revolution through evolution... said by N3OGH:I agree. I've had my Incredible since the the official release (pre ordered via web site). I have to say I love this phone. Verizon is going to sell a Shit load of them. As good, even better than my sisters iPhone 3Gs. The Incredible is THE phone to have on Verizon. Some can make arguments concerning the apps on the iPhone and iTunes, but no doubt Steve Jobs is losing sleep over this phone.... Too bad EVDO speeds are downright pathetic and ruining the life with these high-end phones.
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kudos:5 | said by Logan 5:It was bound to happen that the Nexus One would be upstaged but man this was quick even by industry standards.... Also, the cell service providers don't like Google very much since Google is always trying to cut their throats politically and revenue wise. The fact that AT&T, Verizon, & Sprint have passed on a cell phone sales plan by Google designed to bypass them entirely is hardly surprising.
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kudos:1 | Re: A revolution through evolution... said by Linklist:said by Logan 5:It was bound to happen that the Nexus One would be upstaged but man this was quick even by industry standards.... Also, the cell service providers don't like Google very much since Google is always trying to cut their throats politically and revenue wise. The fact that AT&T, Verizon, & Sprint have passed on a cell phone sales plan by Google designed to bypass them entirely is hardly surprising. Right. They hate Google so much that they all offer Android phones and have plans for many more in the future.
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kudos:2 | Re: iPad It works with any GSM carrier, however T-Mobile doesn't have the same 3G bands as AT&T. | |
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| | | | | | Re: iPad said by hottboiinnc:as my comment stands. It is NOT 3G on TMO. It would only be Edge at best. No.
Your comment is as follows:
said by hottboiinnc:yes but again, it only works with 1 carrier; at&t You are stating that the iPad only works with AT&T. This claim is untrue because "it" refers to the iPad as a whole functioning unit, rather than just 3G. You MUST be specific when you make claims like that. Though, you are right to say it will be EDGE only on T-Mobile, but that doesn't mean the iPad won't function, as intended, on T-Mobile's network, it just means you won't have any 3G connectivity. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: iPad It was pretty much understood what hotboiinnc meant. | |
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| | Android Will Get Better and Better As long as manufacturers keep pumping out new high end Android devices each month this will keep happening.
Even the HTC EVO is already old news and by the time it hits the Sprint users foaming at the mouth for it the new Samsung S Series will be the new Android hotness with a super AMOLED screen, less wide real estate and HSPA goodnees.
Lest we not forget the new iPhone that will most likely kill most EVO sales to begin with.
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kudos:8 | Re: Android Will Get Better and Better said by airtouch25:As long as manufacturers keep pumping out new high end Android devices each month this will keep happening. Even the HTC EVO is already old news and by the time it hits the Sprint users foaming at the mouth for it the new Samsung S Series will be the new Android hotness with a super AMOLED screen, less wide real estate and HSPA goodnees. Lest we not forget the new iPhone that will most likely kill most EVO sales to begin with. The N1 will still get OS updates before everyone else without any carrier or manufacturer bloatware. Unfortunately, this is too true.
As soon as the EVO comes out, there is something already in the pipe... Sounds like it should be revealed within the next couple of weeks...
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| | | | Re: Android Will Get Better and Better I think the EVO 4G will be the phone to have for at least the rest of the year. The iPhone 4G (or whatever they're going to call it) didn't seem too terribly impressive when we saw it on Gizmodo but who knows what else Apple might have up their sleeve. At the very least, the EVO will be the phone for me - I'll never leave Sprint!
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| | | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Android Will Get Better and Better Arguably, the Galaxy S is right there too.
4" AMOLED screen (instead of LCD) with Swype and ThinkFree.
Galaxy S has a better processor
Galaxy S has a better GPU.
»pocketnow.com/tech-news/video-ct···hone-yet
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| Re: Android Will Get Better and Better I'm sure that Android number is going to go up significantly this quarter. Verizon can't keep the Incredible in stock and HTC can't make them fast enough. If you order one today it will be shipped by 5/29. I bought mine under a one year contract assuming that in ten months I could upgrade to the supposed Verizon IPhone. Soon after receiving my Incredible, I had to use an IPhone for the good part of a day. I'm not going to say anything bad about the IPhone because it is a great phone, but I doubt in ten months I will be wanting to switch to it. | |
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| Re: And in the end, the winner is... The winners are the carriers to a larger extent than even HTC. They (Sprint and VZW) have turned HTC (who also manufactured the N1) into just another handset/accessory source, and added additional foot-traffic into their stores, kiosks, and resellers. | |
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| Re: And in the end, the winner is... That is all *any* handset maker has ever been; it's the carriers (not the handset makers) that have the control, especially in North America. While Google tried to wrest that control back, the carriers have too much money invested in their current model (stores, dealers, and kiosks) to cede control so easily or willingly. | |
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Well I never meant to imply that HTC was trying to control anything. My point was that regardless of how well the N1 does, HTC is still raking in the profits in the end, as they are making the nearly all of the most popular Android phones for all of the carriers.
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HTC makes every phone mentioned in the Article. No matter what phone and carrier gets chosen by the consumer, an HTC phone is sold.
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: And in the end, the winner is... said by asdfghjklzx5:said by kamm:Errr, no, it's VZW and Sprint. Like the other dude who replied to me, you are missing my point. Like with the other dude you replied to, you are wrong.
HTC makes every phone mentioned in the Article. No matter what phone and carrier gets chosen by the consumer, an HTC phone is sold.
Which means nothing as the same amount of HTC phones would be sold anyway as HTC makes the Google N1 too.
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kudos:1 | said by pnh102:Google's mistake was to release a 20th century phone in a 21st century market. The Nexus One should have supported the advanced network features of every major carrier from the gitgo, and for the price charged, that would not have been unreasonable. which advanced network features are you speaking of?
And how is a carrier-dependent market a "21st century market"?
just wonderin...
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Phone Fail said by tiger72:which advanced network features are you speaking of? How about full support of all 3G services provided by all carriers? The Nexus One should have supported 3G service from T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon and Sprint right out of the box from day one.
said by tiger72:And how is a carrier-dependent market a "21st century market"? And had the Nexus One supported these services, then perhaps it would have been successful.
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kudos:1 | Re: Phone Fail said by pnh102:said by tiger72:which advanced network features are you speaking of? How about full support of all 3G services provided by all carriers? The Nexus One should have supported 3G service from T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon and Sprint right out of the box from day one. That's what I figured you were referring to, but it wasn't very clear. That said, I definitely agree. Even a T-Mobile AND ATT compatible 3g phone would have been better than having 2 distinct ones.
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| The Problem was NOT the N1 Itself! The real issue for the carriers wasn't the N1 (I've seen far worse handsets than the Nexus One on sale from VZW and Sprint, let alone AT&T, even today), but the not-through-the-carrier sales model. You *had* to go to Google to purchase your N1, as opposed to going to the Sprint Store or VZW store. Let's get real; most handset sales are still done to walk-ups and walk-ins (even if it's at Wal-Mart and Costco, let alone carrier-owned stores); even though all the major US carriers have online stores, what percentage of their handsets are sold that way? Then there's the *accessories* market; the markup on accessories is greater than that on the handsets! Lastly, there's the HTC Incredible (offered by VZW's online store now, with the stores and resellers getting it at the end of May) and Sprint's Evo 4G; unlike the HTC-built N1, you can buy one retail (same with the accessories).
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