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Google Unveils Google TV
Embedded devices by Sony and Logitech this fall...
by Karl Bode Thursday 20-May-2010 tags: Video · alternatives
For several months there have been leaks about how Google plans to enter the set top space by offering Android-driven, broadband-powered set tops that aim to recreate the Internet experience on your television set. While Internet video is still no real threat to traditional TV, it certainly could be with the introduction of a cheap, easy to use living room device. Google hopes to be the player to fill that niche, today officially unveiling Google TV at their I/O Conference (full video of the presentation here). From the Google Blog:

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Google TV is a new experience for television that combines the TV that you already know with the freedom and power of the Internet. With Google Chrome built in, you can access all of your favorite websites and easily move between television and the web. This opens up your TV from a few hundred channels to millions of channels of entertainment across TV and the web. Your television is also no longer confined to showing just video.

According to Google, they're working with Sony and Logitech to embed the platform within televisions, Blu-ray players (Sony) and companion boxes (Logitech). Google's service allows users to search both the user's existing TV channel lineup and the Internet to find the video of their choice, as Google explains in this video.

DISH (which we noted has been engaged in trials with Google for some time), says they'll have "advanced integration" via HDMI on all of its HD DVR receivers starting this fall. Best Buy, Adobe, Intel are also along for the ride in order to provide retail, hardware (Intel plans to embed their Atom processors into the devices) and software support.

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45071419

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Maybe for gaming at some point too?

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jjoshua
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I'll put it right next to my Roku

Seriously... How many of these stand alone boxes are we going to need?
zolcos

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Houghton, MI

Re: I'll put it right next to my Roku

said by jjoshua:

Seriously... How many of these stand alone boxes are we going to need?
Exactly... when are they going to learn that the solution is NOT more redundant hardware. If they were really interested in "combin[ing] the TV that you already know with the freedom and power of the Internet" they would let me connect to their service via a software client in LinuxMCE.

mr_slick

join:2003-05-22
Lynnwood, WA

Re: I'll put it right next to my Roku

or any box/os by means of simple tcp/ip, http, etc protocol using streaming formats/file types that are not proprietary
gorehound

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MEH:
I will use my real computer with my DVI-HDMI to my plasma.and my audio going digital to a really nice denon receiver.
I love My Living Room the way it is

mr_slick

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Re: I'll put it right next to my Roku

amen! my shuttle linux box works just fine, thank you.

thender
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I concur.

All of these boxes fall short of the simplicity of double clicking something and just viewing it.

I want either a regular DVR, or a computer. All this inbetween stuff is destined to fail until the TV/film industry can get people paying for content again. Good luck with that!

There is potential for this to succeed: people who want to show a youtube video without turning the computer on, or people who want the downloading functionality my computer has without dealing with a computer. I can grab an episode of a show in a matter of minutes in HD and have it readily available. If this could be done cheaply without it being a science project on a set top box, it could flourish.
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So, will we be able to watch Netflix with this?

Trade in my Roku?
chronoss2009
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gooogle bad google

working with ROOTKIT SONY?
oh boy
me thinks nothing good will come of this also

have look at techdirt.com people funny shit going on in obamaland and the world
badboy54166

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Re: gooogle bad google

What could go wrong? The SOFTWARE IS GOOGLE the hardware is Sony!

Sony and rootkits is so 2006!

cchhat01
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Re: gooogle bad google

So what you're saying is "Those were the rootkits I was looking for"
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badboy54166

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Re: gooogle bad google

I'm saying this is Sony Hardware not software
kfw

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who says you have to hook it up to your PC?

zalternate

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freedom land

Canada?

I suppose this will be banned by the Great Firewall of Canada?
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dvd536
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Re: Canada?

said by zalternate:

I suppose this will be banned by the Great Firewall of Canada?
what? there *is* a google.ca and a youtube.ca
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OldschoolDSL
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I'll use it (with my other toys)

I'll use it with my other toys, but we really need something that can merge everything into a single device.... PC, TV, Games, Internet, Blu-ray (DVD), and such all in a single device.

bionicRod
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Re: I'll use it (with my other toys)

said by OldschoolDSL:

I'll use it with my other toys, but we really need something that can merge everything into a single device.... PC, TV, Games, Internet, Blu-ray (DVD), and such all in a single device.
Combine that with video phone and poof! We're in Back to the Future Part II (minus, of course, the flying cars).

MACFRYYYY!

SLD
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It is called a Media Center PC. Just build one - there are tons of nice cases that fit with your other receivers.

Guspaz
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Colour me disinterested

I'm sorry, it's just hard to get excited about these sorts of thing these days. AppleTV didn't go anywhere, you can hook up a computer to your TV already, and there are zillions of little settop boxes that let you do all sorts of things.

I already have devices hooked up to my TV that have the technical prowess to do all this stuff (360 or PS3), do I really need another? Can't we just get a digital signal input adapter for the PS3 or 360 and use that? Or just do the input signal over IPTV?

tiger72
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Re: Colour me disinterested

with regards to the 360 - that's the thing. Microsoft has made claims of the 360 becoming an actual STB. Looks like Google is trying to cut them of.

EUS
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Mutually exclusive?

Android, an "open" O/S, meets Blu-Ray, the most closed, DRM laden junk yet.
Will the effect of the two meeting destroy the universe?
ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Mutually exclusive?

Android isn't exactly open. It's free to take and use, but anyone using it in their devices can lock it down however they like. If you need an example of that, look no further than the Moto Backflip. AT&T borked that device in classic style by taking Android, stripping out the best parts, and then locking it down.

Don't get me wrong, I like Android, but it isn't as open as many people think.

EUS
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Re: Mutually exclusive?

I believe the fault lies with the advertising getting us used to thinking that this device is to be open, then *poof* it's not.
Maybe they mean open to the telcos to lock it down as they wish?

BBBanditRuR
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Ah Android

Funny how free and open can actually make money. The ubiquity of Android, coming to a device nearer you than you thought.
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Gbcue
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Resolution

What would the resolution be like?

Must be terrible for those low-resolution YT videos on an HD monitor/TV...
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Romney2012
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Re: Resolution

said by Gbcue:

What would the resolution be like?

Must be terrible for those low-resolution YT videos on an HD monitor/TV...
But YouTube is now delivering up to 1080P

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8nNDuqhO0

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Re: Resolution

said by Romney2012:

said by Gbcue:

What would the resolution be like?

Must be terrible for those low-resolution YT videos on an HD monitor/TV...
But YouTube is now delivering up to 1080P

(youtube clip)
Emphasis added.
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SLD
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Jee - you mean more pausing to watch a video on YouTube. Half the time, 720p stutters or hangs.
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said by Romney2012:

said by Gbcue:

What would the resolution be like?

Must be terrible for those low-resolution YT videos on an HD monitor/TV...
But YouTube is now delivering up to 1080P

(youtube clip)
%99 of the 1080p videos are encoded wrong and look like crap.

Which begs the question, when you switch modes on youtube why does it not automatically change rez on screen you have? I feel sad for those who pick a higher rez and just watch it in small screen like original clip. hehe
Spikehsi2000

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Devices Need No Cap High Speed Internet

I live in Eastern Fresno County California and I have no 4G,Cable, DSL or Fiber.

I Only have Wildblue with low data caps that would be eatened up in 10 minutes with this device.

I guess I wont be buying this device unless Google wants to offer No Cap High Speed Internet with it.

For those that live in town enjoy it, people like me it is just a fancy front room decoration next to my Capped Wildblue Modem.
stanleycr1

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Ivor, VA

Re: Devices Need No Cap High Speed Internet

Exactly. Where is the bandwidth going to come from??
caco
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Google everywhere

Computer,phone,tv, power grid. They should just try to buy Walmart and call it a day.

Gbcue
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Invites

Anybody want a Google TV invite?
SuperHemp

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Re: Invites

said by Gbcue:

Anybody want a Google TV invite?
Here comes Google TV.

Streetlight

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Google makes its money w/ advertising

So, do I need a device that serves up more advertising? Right now with a DVR, I can record programs and watch them by use of my remote's 30 sec skip button. Actually we watch as few ad based TV programs as we can. I presume with GTv, we'll get even more horrible ads that we may not be able to block with Adblock Plus.
moes

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google tv

Microsoft tryed it with webtv, apple tried it with there appletv. now google is going to try it. ok maybe this time will be the charm.

dvd536
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Re: google tv

said by moes:

Microsoft tryed it with webtv, apple tried it with there appletv. now google is going to try it. ok maybe this time will be the charm.
just like the other two this will flop due to low bitrate encodes
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KoolMoe
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Re: google tv

I dunno. I really like the idea of such a box that doesn't require subscription fees. I have no problem with advertising, I see it everywhere already. I don't wan to spend $$ on a DVR, nor NetFlix, etc...and we rarely have time anyway.

Watching the few network shows on their websites works great for me. Hooking up my laptop to the TV works pretty well.

I got an Apple TV but it's restriction/tie to iTunes kinda sucks. The Boxee mod for it was cool with Hulu, til that was stopped. Ever since then, I just don't use it anymore.

A box with no fees that'll let me watch pretty much any web video, or web site, on my TV is cool. I'll get one.
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Vchat20
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WebTV failed mostly due to the fact it was way ahead of its time in a period when 56k dialup was about the fastest thing available for most people so it was limited to pretty much basic web pages and that was it.

Apple TV failed or will fail due to being completely locked down to just iTunes with nothing else like a web browser, tv tuning functionality, or anything else.

From what I've read about Google TV is it will pretty much conjoin everything into one system: Watching your subscription tv services, web video, web browsing, and more. All with a close focus on the web aspect.
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Re: google tv

said by Vchat20:

WebTV failed mostly due to the fact it was way ahead of its time in a period when 56k dialup was about the fastest thing available for most people so it was limited to pretty much basic web pages and that was it.
What are you talking about?.....I'm still using my bad ass Webtv unit, lol.

Yea it's old and you can't do much on it but you can't beat it when you get the subscription for free when you get cheap ($12) msn dial up service.
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Yawn

Just what we need ... another also-ran.

Unless Google has used its might to negotiate with all the content providers, so we have access to 99% of all available content, at iTunes and below prices, not $4/view, and unless this service supercedes cable tv, allowing us ala-carte subscriptions to cable networks by the hour, day, week, month or year, then it just another Google Flop.
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Re: Yawn

said by elray:

then it just another Google Flop.
Another google flop? So far they've had a lot more successes than flops... I smell apple fanatic.

Philmatic
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No one reads TFA I guess...

This doesn't replace anything in your entertainment center, it's more of a catch all for all your devices and incorporates Google's searching skills to manage everything.

You pick up the remote, search for "Glee" and you find out that not only is it showing this week live on your TiVo, but it's also available on Netflix and Hulu.

If you choose you TIVo, it will SCHEDULE THE RECORDING FOR YOU
If you choose it on Netflix, it'll add it to your instant queue
If you choose Hulu, it'll just stream it using the built in software

Logitech's box is amazing too, it'll function like a Harmony remote in the sense that it will turn on and off devices and switch inputs as needed using the activities you set up, but the best part? In addition to regular remotes, keyboards and touchpads, they are introducing iPhone and Android apps!

Not to mention it'll support pretty much any Android App on the market that doesn't require phone hardware. So Pandora, IHeartRadio, FaceBook, Engadget, Opera, Skype will all work right out of the box, to name a few. Not to mention if these apps saw a dedicated Android TV redesign that took advantage of full 1080p resolution.

Considering it's built on Android and anyone can develop for it, I don't see WHY XBMC or Boxee couldn't be ported over. It's powered by Atom, and uses the Linux kernel, as long as the GPU is accessible through the API (It will be) and supports hardware acceleration of video (Not sure yet), it should be trivial to implement.

I also just thought of this, this MAY BE the reason why Boxee was looking for Android developers a few weeks ago. Maybe Google gave them a heads up?

FutureMon
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Re: No one reads TFA I guess...

Wait until the Google TV ships with a built in webcam; then listen to all the people freaking out about their privacy (OMG I'm being spied on by google through the webcam while I'm watching porn!)

Although I think it would be neat from a videophone perspective.

- FM
karpodiem

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you're missing the point

this is the first step towards content providers having a _real_ opportunity to sell their content directly to consumers.

A la carte may be closer (5 years?) than you think.
TheMG
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Computer -> HDMI cable -> TV

= win.

Better than any underpowered, feature-limited set top box.

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