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 |  | | Re: until its proved You forgot to note a key phrase "providers of bandwidth-intensive content" must pay. This is the telco providers dream, charging Google, Netflix, etc for access to their customers already paying for service. | |
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 | | As one of the supposed minorities who would benefit... I ask with all sincerity....WTF?? | |
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 |  | | Re: As one of the supposed minorities who would benefit... expert007... I love you! You put it better than anyone else I've seen! Please run for some office so I can vote for you!  | |
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 1 edit | and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada.
I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view ) | |
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 |  bionicRodFunkier than a mohair disco ball.Premium join:2009-07-06 united state kudos:1 | Re: and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS said by chronoss2009:and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada. I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view ) "Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn 
And what a bunch of BS. AT&T only gets away with stuff like this because almost nobody pays attention. Great job bbr, but your reporting only serves to raise the blood pressure of your readers as it seems no one else cares.  | |
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 |  |  | | Re: and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS said by bionicRod:said by chronoss2009:and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada. I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view ) "Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn  And what a bunch of BS. AT&T only gets away with stuff like this because almost nobody pays attention. Great job bbr, but your reporting only serves to raise the blood pressure of your readers as it seems no one else cares. nice start nit picking it was meant a humor ...please for the love of god someone create a saracsm tag.... | |
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 |  |  newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD kudos:1 | said by bionicRod: "Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn
Or what AT&T is attempting to do . . . "hose" their customers. | |
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...it's "Ho"s as in slang for prostitute. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | So let me get this straight So this new crappy pricing scheme will allow minorities and other poor folks to also enjoy this crappy pricing scheme. This is his point?
Excuse me what can you do TODAY with 2 GB let alone in 2020? And please no one bring up the fact that 2 GB is plenty for a cell phone because this guy CLEARLY mentions BROADBAND use which I take as HOME PC use. You might as well stick with dial-up. At least you can get 17 GB a month from that.
So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month?
I am apparently missing the upside to all of this. Someone explain please. | |
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 |  jjoshuaPremium join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ kudos:3 | Re: So let me get this straight Yes. Everyone is being ripped off equally. | |
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Are they essentially saying that all people are entitled to Broadband? | |
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 |  |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: So let me get this straight said by MOWAA:Guess I don't understand Are they essentially saying that all people are entitled to Broadband? No. They are saying all people are equally entitled to being ripped off! -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  BenPremium join:2007-06-17 Glen Carbon, IL | said by BF69:I am apparently missing the upside to all of this. Someone explain please. You aren't looking at it in the right way. Of course there's an upside; for AT&T. It's another way to attempt and fail to justify their decision, and make it sound like a good thing for most people.
You are right though, that there's no upside for regular, normal people. | |
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 |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | said by BF69: So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month? Gov't regulations usual result. -- Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: So let me get this straight said by Linklist:said by BF69: So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month? Gov't regulations usual result. Not that at&t and Verizon's throwing money to pro-wireless politicians of both parties has any influence did it? | |
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no not that anybody would ever use more then 2gb..... but this is today already so far with just a high quality internet radio stream going+an upload to my web host. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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2 gig is a joke, I easily do 5 or 6 gig a month on just the phone.
Dame piece of dung companies, the future just basically sucks to big ones. | |
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 BenPremium join:2007-06-17 Glen Carbon, IL | Huh? quote: With this flat-rate pricing approach, for example, almost one in five African Americans would still lack home broadband connectivity in 2020. A nearly comparable share of Hispanics and lower-income white Americans also would remain offline. In the face of rising bandwidth demand and the rising cost to accommodate it, the flat-fee pricing approach will perpetuate digital divides based on income, race, and ethnicity.
Why? Or how?
In a great many places, including in these "inner cities," DSL is available, and there's a $20/mo. tier for 768Kbps/384Kbps (or was it 128Kbps upload?). Therefore, I don't buy the argument that the present way of doing things prevents anyone from getting on the Internet.
$20/mo. is not a lot of money at all; anyone can afford that.
There are even free ways to get onto the Internet, or at least most of the WWW (HTTP and HTTPS), since many public libraries offer that. I say most because public libraries often won't allow the viewing of pornography or other adult material, but that sort of thing really shouldn't be viewed in any sort of public setting.
So again, just how is the current way of doing things disadvantageous to anyone, with regards to Internet access?
At this point, the only people who don't have broadband are those who don't want it for whatever reason (a very small number that grows smaller every day), or can't get it at a reasonable cost, which is the case in many rural communities. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Huh? said by Ben: At this point, the only people who don't have broadband are those who don't want it for whatever reason (a very small number that grows smaller every day), or can't get it at a reasonable cost, which is the case in many rural communities. Oh you mean like my county which half the population can't get it? Considering we're in at&t territory I'm not seeing how these caps are going to all of sudden encourage them to build out their DSL footprint. They don't even bother to offer 3G here. So I call bullshit on at&t. | |
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 mcfrischRevelare Pecunia join:2000-07-02 Lakewood, OH | Not Surprising... Bandwidth Cap and Trade! | |
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 woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | hmmm, W hat about the Govt. subsidies etc, how do we recoup that? Universal service fee comes to mind. -- BlooMe | |
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 |  Z80APremium join:2009-11-23 | Re: hmmm, There is no such thing as a "Gov't" subsidies. Those would be TAXPAYER subsidies. | |
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 | | so AT&T discriminates against everyone but minorites? S this what AT&T is saying? SO they'll screw majority people to help minority.... I last checked we all still live in somehting screwed up called a democracy.....
WHAT someone needs ot do is go find some of "minority" grandmothers who can also tell AT&T where to stick it. | |
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 MurdocPremium join:2009-02-08 Manitowoc, WI | You can' get any dumber then this! They must really believe what their shoveling! Apparently bandwidth comes from the same place as oil does  | |
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 camaro92Question everythingPremium join:2008-04-05 Westfield, MA | And if this is true I am the freaking muffin man. | |
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 jimhsu join:2001-06-26 Sugar Land, TX 3 edits | A fix Simple FTC fix? Index all overage charges to a national "bandwidth price index" - something like the CPI, but accounting for the cost of wholesale Tier 1 bandwidth plus amortized infrastructure costs. After all, heavy bandwidth users "cost more" for the ISP, according to them. Sure, call the CPI inaccurate, but it is at least correct to an order of magnitude, unlike current overage charges (seriously, 10$/GB is supposed to be AFFORDABLE?) If the overage charge is significantly above the BPI, the customer has the right to refuse to pay the stated overages.
I guarantee you'll see the cap+penalty plans disappear tomorrow.
PS As for the entire issue, I am much more in favor of bandwidth throttling to "gov't mandated broadband" (i.e. 768 kbps, but this will get bumped up) rather than transfer caps.
PS Wikipedia currently lists the total cost per gigabyte as approx. $0.10/GB (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_···t_access). That includes, of course, 80-90% fixed costs as well. That's a reasonable position to start from. | |
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| Bandwidth is getting cheaper In the face of rising bandwidth demand and the rising cost to accommodate it, the flat-fee pricing approach will perpetuate digital divides based on income, race, and ethnicity.
This made me break out in laughter and sadness at the same time. Laughter for it not being true, sadness for 99% of the people reading it that think its true. If anything, the cost to deliver bandwidth has gone DOWN in price, and will continue to go down in price. | |
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 Z80APremium join:2009-11-23 | Note to the dummies Digital socialism won't work either. | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: Note to the dummies This isn't socialism. This is pure greed at it's finest dressed in an equality talking point. | |
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 | | Racist - With this flat-rate pricing approach, for example, almost one in five African Americans would still lack home broadband connectivity in 2020. A nearly comparable share of Hispanics and lower-income white Americans also would remain offline. In the face of rising bandwidth demand and the rising cost to accommodate it, the flat-fee pricing approach will perpetuate digital divides based on income, race, and ethnicity.
The insinuation that certain ethnic groups use less bandwidth and would benefit signing up for lower-tier caps is racist. | |
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| I'm a minority. Show me the money! I haven't received any "aid" yet. Lol! The only ones being aided by AT&T overcharging for bandwidth are the fat cat executives. -- Satan is always busy. He makes bad things look good and good things look bad! Watch that Devil. | |
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 | | Isn't this similar to the baloney from clinton and Reagan Isn't this similar to the baloney we heard from Clinton and Reagan. Reagan tax cut for the rich will bring magical prosperity to America. Clinton: well export all the jobs and it will create more jobs. needless to say none of it has worked thus far. | |
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 Duramax08Win8 sucksPremium join:2008-08-03 San Antonio, TX | I've been on the dsl "waiting" list for ages Cans I has dsl nao???? | |
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