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Sprint CEO: T-Mobile Merger Would Make Sense
As long as they're using the same technology
by Karl Bode 04:50PM Tuesday Jul 13 2010
In an interview with the Financial Times (reg. required, here's the CNET alternative) Sprint CEO Dan Hesse proclaims that there's "logic" to a merger between T-Mobile and Sprint -- assuming they're using the same fourth generation technology. On that front, Hesse again stated that Sprint isn't ruling out a possible migration to Long Term Evolution (LTE), and that the company has enough flexibility to make such a switch if need be. Says Hesse to the Times:
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"We have the spectrum resources where we could add LTE if we choose to do that, on top of the WiMAX network," he added. "The beauty of having a lot of spectrum is we have a lot of flexibility." . . . Mr Hesse accepted there was a "logic" to a merger between Sprint and T-Mobile USA if they were both using the same 4G technology, but declined to comment about deal activity.
T-Mobile of course is nursing HSPA technology for as long as possible, currently upgrading markets to 21 Mbps-capable HSPA+, with possible 42 Mbps speeds on the horizon. T-Mobile has yet to officially announce what their 4G plans are -- and as such a Sprint deal could make sense. Sprint meanwhile has already put out an RFP exploring migrating their network to LTE, and a union would help both companies better battle heavyweights AT&T and Verizon.

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podstolom

join:2010-01-25
Wichita, KS

Ohhh NOOOO!!!

Not. Again.

This merger scuttlebutt keeps cropping up like a bad dream. Say it ain't so. Because I really need to wake up.

N3OGH
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Re: Ohhh NOOOO!!!

SPrint didn't learn from the Nextel debacle?

CDMA, iDEN and GSM.

OH MY!
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Re: Ohhh NOOOO!!!

iDEN still surprises me. I'm out in the smokies right now, CDMA & GSM has no coverage, but you can still get iDEN. But I do agree, this will NOT work out well for anyone with 4 networks. (Yes, I said 4. Once Clear destroys WiMax they'll dump the remnants off onto Sprint)
hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Who said anything about GSM iDEN and CDMA? We're talking next generation. Not 3g/current networks. What is the issue with not getting this?

As far as Nextel they would keep this due to the prepaid customers sprint is making the money off of. It would only make sense.
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Transformers

join:2001-03-10
Pasadena, CA
great point.

Z80A
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Yeah, right

Like T-Mobile wants to buy a company bleeding both cash at nearly a billion a quarter AND customers by the tens of thousands every quarter.

Mike_

join:2003-06-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: Yeah, right

Um who said anything about T-Mobile buying anyone? This is about a MERGER, IF that.

I could picture a partnership of some kind over a merger just because of their two completely different present day technologies. I honestly don't think this should occur in any way though.. Even if they both decide to use LTE for 4g, all of the current 3g/call tech. is completely different and does not go away overnight.
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Z80A
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Re: Yeah, right

Okay, who would want to merge with a company bleeding customers by the tens of thousands every quarter and bleeding cash by nearly a BILLION dollars every quarter?
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
It may be a merger, not one buying another. DT may eventually want to get out of US market and dump Tmob as they are now losing customers too. Dan's logic is that they may need to consolidate to compete with ATT/VZW.

Both companies have been on death lists for several years but are still around. Companies this big can get through rough rides for many years. Sprint's defectations have been significantly reducing though (pre paid is gaining) and post may turn around this year. Not sure about Tmob but they lost customers last Q. If they both end up on LTE down the road, the may as well join up.

BTW, if Sprint eventuall adds LTE, they need to do it in 1900 spectrum, not 2500. Keep 2500 for WiMAX.

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: Yeah, right

I would tend to agree... I just don't think that Sprint has the cash right now.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Yeah, right

for what LTE? LTE isn't even out of the lab yet.

Re: Yeah, right

I cant say much about what is going on in USA (I am under NDA) but Verizon will launch their LTE soon. So will a whole bunch of other operators too. I am surprised that one I know of havent launched yet. They said they would. Well, in Sweden and Norway there is already LTE networks for the public.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Yeah, right

VZ keeps saying "soon" when is soon? the same time they allow open handsets on their network? And who are these other carriers? TMO? They're not. ATT? They're not. MetroPCS? I doubt it as they'll cut their roaming agreements from Cricket, Sprint and others. The only way Metro would keep working is if they moved to LTE and so did TMO since they both use AWS handsets. Thats' about it.

And again as far as VZW, tell them to show it to the public or keep it and their employees mouths shut cause nothing is coming soon.
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RSsss

@t-mobile.com

Re: Yeah, right

Evryone keep talking about LTE, but HSPA+ has abilities well over 10MBS if they (TMO and ATT) will spend the money to put in the beefed up back-haul, which it sounds like TMO is doing. I get HALF that speed and I will be in HEAVEN!!
hottboiinnc
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Re: Yeah, right

very well said. Even if it's from a TMO employee

tiger72
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Let's see "in Sweden and Norway" actually means only two cities by the same operator (Telia-Sonera).

"A whole bunch of other operators" will be waiting until it's financially and technically necessary to upgrade to LTE.

Right now, LTE provides no benefits to GSM carriers over HSPA+.
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dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL
true, sprint isn't doing that great. However, this could be an interesting scenario - this might be the key to having dual-band service in the states, and having a partnership at such a level would enable good coverage in a much bigger area. CDMA + GSM +iden combined, in phones other than featurephones? yes, please.

rocco

@sprint.com
Sprint is not bleeding anything. It has added thousands of prepaid customers with Boost and Virgin Mobile, and it's post paid customer base is returning due to excellent service, new phones, improved coverage better than AT&T, and 4G. Please come out of your cave and realize you are looking at old newspapers.
davidhoffman
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1 recommendation

TMobile and Sprint merger is a bad idea.

This would be just as stupid as the Sprint and Nextel merger. And it would result in the same lousy customer service for former TMobile customers as the Nextel customers experienced after the Sprint and Nextel merger. Dan Hesse needs to concentrate on fixing Sprint's numerous technical and service problems, not getting distracted by mergers and acquisitions.

hawut

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Re: TMobile and Sprint merger is a bad idea.

Numerous tech and service problems?

Obviously you don't have sprint.

I've had ZERO problems with them in the past 2.5 years. Infact I've been so thrilled with them that I've converted a friend or two every other month.

Just last weekend, I was in Vermont, only phones that worked were verizon and sprint......converted 3 people right there!

Sprint = Verizon Coverage for a cheaper price and BETTER phones.

Time
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Mclean, VA

Re: TMobile and Sprint merger is a bad idea.

And obviously you don't realize that cellular service varies in each area. Sprint may be good in your area, but there are areas where it isn't. The same concept goes for every single cell phone company.
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eric0668

@comcast.net
Obviously some peoplel on here think when people put down Sprint it is because of bad coverage or dropped calls

Well, it is quite the contrary. I had Sprint for 4 days had an EVO, it is a nice phone, NOT as nice as the Samsung Vibrant , well I had a bill question, which soon escalated to a bill problem, which soon escalated to a supervisor telling me that she is as high as you can get. I thought to myself, this is my first week in Sprint and I have someone telling me if I have a real problem I can go no higher. That was the last day I was with Spring. And now, I didn't know they were in as bad of trouble as they are...certainly according to ATT and VZ, yes, but now we now why Sprint is in that bad of trouble.

Totti

@mycingular.net

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The Best Deal

If they make it work, it will the best deal ever in USA Wireless history.

Sprint has good 4 G network
+
T Mobile has GSM phones and good customer service

strong network + GSM phones + good customer service

= happy customer

TSprint Please go for it i will make the switch to you
bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

Re: The Best Deal

Hardly

You'll get Sprint's support and T-mo's network.

tiger72
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Re: The Best Deal

Considering T-Mobile's native network is both larger and faster, and is good enough that I haven't called support for years - that works for me!

fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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I don't know why you think GSM is an advantage. GSM sucks.

visio

join:2001-08-29
Pompano Beach, FL

Re: The Best Deal

Do you have anything to support that claim? Especially since it's used in most of the world?

Totti

@qwest.net

1 recommendation

GSM its a big advantage my friend.

1 ) you can use your own phone with carrier
2) unlock the phone and use it with ohter carrier
3) sell it or Give it to some one you know
4) use the sim car with MIFI to get internet access to your laptop.
5) if you your contract its up and you need new phone no need to sign 2 year contract .just use any cheap GSM phone from ebay.
6) gsm phones repair its cheaper than CDM

and more advantage

UnKown
The Underground Network

join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL

Re: The Best Deal

your basing gsm on phone availability and not network performance. While everything you say is true, it does not make GSM a better phone network. CDMA is equally as powerful, but you are missing the point here in general. They are talking about 4G networks and Sprint is selecting LTE, as is the rest of the world, so in the next 4 years when the rest of the world uses LTE and we all use VOIP for phone calls, CDMA IDEN and GSM are going to be worthless. Lets think progressive here, and that is what sprint is doing.

Spring really needs to dump WIMAX and adopt LTE or just pick one of the technologies and go with it. They are splitting up their network again and it is going to fail just like the IDEN/CDMA network that they have.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: The Best Deal

How in the hell can you claim Sprint is selecting LTE instead of WiMax? Just because they say they can change without a problem and issued an RFP that does NOT mean they're going to do anything. They just want prices. What do you people not get about that? THEY ARE NOT MOVING TO LTE!

CDMA and iDEN failed due to they never killed the iDEN network and left customers move back and forth between the two and still do. iDEN should have been left for businesses ONLY and regular consumers should have been moved to CDMA and that would have fixed that issue. They should have also left Nextel in tack and left them run Nextel.
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sonicmerlin

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said by Totti :

If they make it work, it will the best deal ever in USA Wireless history.

Sprint has good 4 G network
+
T Mobile has GSM phones and good customer service

strong network + GSM phones + good customer service

= happy customer

TSprint Please go for it i will make the switch to you
Oh yes, decreasing the number of competitors in an already cartel-like industry will be great. Just great.

elias
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join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL

T-Mo LTE

I can't see T-Mobile doing WiMax, especially since they are owned by DT.
nnaarrnn

join:2004-09-30
Nitro, WV

Sprint

Sprint's support is effin awesome though. I don't get the gripes. Sure it sucked 8-9 years ago, but it's pretty awesome now.
vortex91

join:2000-08-18
Glendale, CA

Re: Sprint

sprint has been awsome in major metro area even better than verizon since 2001.

Also where sprint doesnt have coverage guess what it roams on VERIZON (same technology) oh and before you say roaming is expensive etc.. with sprint roaming in USA is FREE period.

so lets see i get sprints netowrk + verizons network in 1 and i pay less than for verizon its a no brainer

Iv been a dye hard loyah and happy sprint users since 1999

phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?

join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ

T-Mobile All The Way

As one commenter up there said, there are a lot of advantages to T-Mobile over Sprint.

The merger will probably bring all of Sprints LOCKED DOWN phones and do away with the GSM/SIM card.

I have had only a minor few issues with T-Mobile and that was when I upgraded to a newer phone that was defective out of the box.

Otherwise, they have excellent Customer Care. Wish their network was a little more robust, though.
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jfmezei
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T-mobile provides Sprint with a way out of CDMA

Since CDMA is all but dead, Sprint has to eventualy move from it. Merging with T-mobile makes sense because it would ease the transition into it.

The CDMA market will dwindle to a point where fewer and fewer handsets will be available for it. Wimax will always be too small to attract many handsets.

Remember that the telcos in Canada are winding down their CDMA networks, having moved to GSM (in large part to have the iphone). While it will be a number of years before it is shutdown, Sprint has to consider that its customers won't be able to roam in Canada when that happens. And with the canadian telcos having moved to GSM, it deprives Sprint of roaming revenues.

Sprint may have terrible image/service, but they have what T-Mobile lacks: spectrum in the right frequencies. The minute T-Mobile/Sprint have HSPA/UMTS running at 850/1900, they can start selling the iphone. It is important to note that iphone4 doesn't have 1700. (which tmobile uses, but also the new entrants in canada)

So, in the end, Verizon would be partly owned by Vodaphone, and Sprint would be partly owned by Deutsche-Telekom
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: T-mobile provides Sprint with a way out of CDMA

CMDA is far from dead. They can still upgrade those networks and keep the bandwidth flowing. The same as TMO is doing with theirs. Why move networks now when you don't have to? You can keep pushing the speeds your customers want without the cost of building out something new right now.
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not gonna happen

Mergers are beginning to make less and less sense for the consumer...

At&t and Bell South.. what?
Sprint and Nextel.. doh!
Verizon and MCI-Worldcom.. ok, whatever
Comcast and Nbc what for?

What's next, Fox and Qwest?

Mergers of the mega kind really DO NOTHING GOOD for the pre-paid and/or mvno industry-- if anything a merger of big companies HURTS competitiveness. You don't have to rub much intelligence together to figure that one out!
dplantz

join:2000-08-02
Roslindale, MA

Re: not gonna happen

Qwest is merging with CenturyLink. So fox and Qwest will never happen.
talz13

join:2006-03-15
Avon, OH

Re: not gonna happen

said by dplantz:

Qwest is merging with CenturyLink. So fox and Qwest will never happen.
Ok, change the previous suggestion to FOX and CenturyLink

nyc dude

@rr.com

merger!

Deutsche Telekom has been itching to grow T-mobile in the US, this would be a great way to do it. Instant move to number three carrier. With the number one mobile platform, Android rocks.
DarnellP

join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV

Re: merger!

said by nyc dude :

Deutsche Telekom has been itching to grow T-mobile in the US
Or sell it off...
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wispalord

join:2007-09-20
Farmington, MO

I think your all missing the point...

It's numbers if they merge they can add there subscibers numbers together making them seem larger than they are and gain more on a large competing scale.

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