  Simba7I Void Warranties
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2010-Aug-24 12:27 pm
Still a ripoff..$80/mo? You're messing with me, right?
..especially when there's cheaper alternatives out there. | |
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 |  FreedomBuildWell done is better than well said
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Re: Still a ripoff..That's marketing media propaganda for you. If you feed people enough BS they're bound to start believing and parroting the same..It's A Good Deal !. Yeah right. | |
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| |  baineschile2600 ways to live
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Re: Still a ripoff..You just love that term, don't you? If you spent as much time trying to make things right, as opposed to complaining, I think you would be surprised with how much you could accomplish. But, if if makes you feel better, complain away. | |
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Re: Still a ripoff..said by baineschile:You just love that term, don't you? If you spent as much time trying to make things right, as opposed to complaining, I think you would be surprised with how much you could accomplish. But, if if makes you feel better, complain away. The irony of course is that you're complaining about the complaining. | |
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Yeah ugh... you embarrass our state. No one wants to hear a think positive speech on this website either. Complaining about ISP's, technology and media whores is the bread and butter of this site. | |
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|  joako
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Yea you can get T-Mobile data for $40/month w/o contract, but I suppose you do get about half the coverage.... but for half of America it's still not a bad option. | |
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Straight Talk at WalMart has unlimited minutes, unlimited text and pics, and unlimited web access for $45/30 days. Other plans available. I have a friend that has it, runs on Verizon network for him. | |
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Re: Still a ripoff..that is web access on the PHONE not anything else and it is also capped. nothing is unlimited on that VZW Network. | |
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said by mudturtle74:Straight Talk at WalMart has unlimited minutes, unlimited text and pics, and unlimited web access for $45/30 days. Other plans available. I have a friend that has it, runs on Verizon network for him. Unlimited in that case probably means less than 2gb. | |
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Re: Still a ripoff..the walmart website says that the 1000 mina month plan is this:
Item Description
Straight Talk 1000-Minute Service Card is everything you need in a cell phone without a contract. Nationwide service on the most reliable network. No activation, reactivation, cancellation, daily access or overage fees.
* Straight Talk 1000-Minute Service Card
* 30 Day Plan
* 1,000 Minutes
* 1,000 Text or Multimedia Messages
* 30 MB of Mobile Web Access (on Mobile Web Access enabled phones)
* Calls to 411 at no additional charge
the unlimited plan is this one:
Item Description
The Straight Talk Service Card offers everything you need in a cell phone without a contract. With reliable nationwide coverage, coast to coast, no Activation, reactivation, cancellation, daily access or overage fees, this Straight Talk Service Card is a great value.
Straight Talk Service Card:
* Straight Talk Service Card
* 30 Day Plan
* Unlimited Minutes & Unlimited Text Messages Nationwide
* Unlimited of Mobile Web Access (on Mobile Web Access enabled phones)
* Straight Talk Service Card includes calls to 411 at no additional charge
my mom, brother, sister and son all have this phone and there has been no problem at all with any amount of content that was used or downloaded via the web. all are on the unlimited plan. | |
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joako
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2010-Aug-25 12:16 am
Re: Still a ripoff..And based on the phones they sell how much data can you legitimately use a month? | |
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|  elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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Wow I'm paying 30 CDN for 6gb
My contract (before discounts) started at 80 for 5 went down to 60 for 5 then I saw the "sale" on data, asked and got it. | |
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2010-Aug-24 12:28 pm
Viable?That's about as viable as the potential offspring between a human and a fungus. | |
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2010-Aug-24 12:30 pm
Prepaid is supposed to be about valuePrepaid is supposed to be about value. Where is the value in $80 for 5gb prepaid from Verizon? This is a horrible joke. | |
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Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueits to get you to sign a contract and get the same for less. thats what its all about. | |
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2010-Aug-24 1:29 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueYeah...Prepaid needs to last more than 30 days at that price and CAP. If they allow multiple months then maybe someone will use it. | |
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sapo
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2010-Aug-24 2:30 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueYeah, I thought that 5GB would be valid for a year at least. Per month? I wouldn't ever rip off customers like that if I worked at the VZ store. | |
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it comes into play when VZW is the best and most realiable provider in the Country with the nation's largest network.  | |
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said by morbo:Where is the value in $80 for 5gb prepaid from Verizon? Is there value in not needing to sign a 2-yr contract? For an occasional business trip here or there, $80 might be better than being locked into $1440 over 2 years of service. | |
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2010-Aug-24 2:42 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueFor less than $80, I could buy airport access, wifi on my plane, and wifi in the hotel. I'd still have a lot of money left over. Verizon is dreaming with this product and price point. | |
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2010-Aug-24 3:08 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueGreat as long as you only need connectivity at the airport, on the plane, at your hotel, and the Wi-Fi access at those locations is functional. I've lost count of the number of hotels with poorly designed wireless networks that I've had the pleasure of staying in. What about when you're at your client's office? What about when you're wining and dining clients? What about when your in a taxi stuck in traffic? What about when you're waiting in the lobby of an office building for your next meeting? What about..... | |
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2010-Aug-24 3:26 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueYou listed the rare exceptions or unrealistic scenarios. 95% of the need is satisfied by existing, more reasonably priced alternatives when compared to Verizon's prepaid cash grab. | |
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2010-Aug-24 3:27 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueYou believe those situations are rare or unrealistic? Do you travel for business often? | |
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Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valuesaid by openbox9:You believe those situations are rare or unrealistic? Do you travel for business often? You realize there are far cheaper prepaid plans from other companies right? | |
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2010-Aug-25 5:13 am
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueYou realize that we aren't discussing other companies right? | |
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What about how people did business before cell phones/smartphones were around...  I mean if you're wining and dining a client, you're phone had better be on silent mode and you'd better not be surfing the web while he's sitting across the table from you. If your presentation requires the use of internet you're far better off scheduling it in a place where you have a hard line to it. Waiting for a meeting? read a magazine. In a taxi stuck in traffic? Enjoy the fact you're not the one driving and stressing out. RELAX. $80 for 5gb is ridiculous, however. It does seem to me they want to try and get people to opt for the "contract" so they can get the lower price point. - FM | |
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2010-Aug-24 8:53 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valuesaid by FutureMon:What about how people did business before cell phones/smartphones were around... Business has changed. I shouldn't need to explain that concept to a forum like this. said by FutureMon:I mean if you're wining and dining a client, you're phone had better be on silent mode and you'd better not be surfing the web Who stated anything about surfing the web? What about product demonstrations? What about virtual collaboration and meetings? said by FutureMon:Waiting for a meeting? read a magazine. I'm sure most successful business types would prefer to be a little more productive than that. Besides, do we still have magazines? I didn't expect such a comment from a forum like this. said by FutureMon:$80 for 5gb is ridiculous, however. It does seem to me they want to try and get people to opt for the "contract" so they can get the lower price point. And the problem with that is? | |
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Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valuequote:
$80 for 5gb is ridiculous, however. It does seem to me they want to try and get people to opt for the "contract" so they can get the lower price point.
It's meaningless if/when there are better alternatives. Why even offer such a useless tier that provides no value to anyone? If someone's been avoiding signing a 2 year contract VZW, a completely uselessly overexpensive prepaid tier isn't going to change their mind. | |
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2010-Aug-24 2:09 pm
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said by morbo:Prepaid is supposed to be about value. Where is the value in $80 for 5gb prepaid from Verizon? This is a horrible joke. Where did you get that idea? Contracts are where you get discounts. Prepaid is not. | |
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Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valuesaid by skuv :said by morbo:Prepaid is supposed to be about value. Where is the value in $80 for 5gb prepaid from Verizon? This is a horrible joke. Where did you get that idea? Contracts are where you get discounts. Prepaid is not. Why shouldn't their be bigger discounts for prepaid? You already have the equipment or you have to buy it at full price, you also are pre paying so they are getting their money before all the post paid people. It should be cheaper not 20-30 more than someone on contract. | |
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2010-Aug-24 3:11 pm
Re: Prepaid is supposed to be about valueContracts tend to generate more revenue over the long term and are easier to account for. Long-term contracts should cost consumers less as more of the risk is placed on them rather than the provider. | |
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2010-Aug-24 4:31 pm
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said by morbo:Prepaid is supposed to be about value. Where is the value in $80 for 5gb prepaid from Verizon? This is a horrible joke. Does the $80 also include unlimited voice calling? | |
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2010-Aug-24 12:35 pm
backwards maybe?Maybe they got the digits backwards. $5 for 80GB. | |
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Re: backwards maybe?Heh, if that were the case that would be pretty awesome. | |
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2010-Aug-24 12:50 pm
if only AT&T would over 5GB for any priceAs an AT&T contract customer with an Iphone, I can't help but wonder why AT&T's maximum data plan is 2GB when everyone else seems to be going with 5GB as a standard? Why can't they offer the extra 3GB? I've already used 670 mb of my 2GB and I still have 3 weeks in my billing cycle. | |
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They just don't get it...Ah well, competition is grand. Should be interesting to see how the $40 Virgin Mobile thing works out. I have my doubts whether they will be truly 'unlimited' and coverage is also an issue. Verizon has a much larger footprint nationwide. We'll see.
Clear is a farce as their coverage is so pathetic it makes T-Mobile's 3G coverage look nationwide! | |
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88615298
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2010-Aug-24 2:18 pm
For the recordVerizon has been offering this for almost 2 weeks now. | |
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88615298
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2010-Aug-24 2:26 pm
On the bright sideA) If you need more than 5 GB you can replenish up to 10 times or $600 per month. So technically you could get 35 GB for the bargain price of $560 a month.
B) If you go over your service gets cut off instead of being charged $51.20 per GB overage on the contract plan.
God forbid they throw you a bone and just throttle you 1X rtt speeds | |
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|  spewakR.I.P Dadkins
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2010-Aug-29 10:08 am
Re: On the bright sidesaid by 88615298:A) If you need more than 5 GB you can replenish up to 10 times or $600 per month. So technically you could get 35 GB for the bargain price of $560 a month. Sign me up! | |
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It must be the water!It must be something in the water they drink that causes these executives to come up with all these DUMB ideas!
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Why isn't this cheaper?You already have the equipment or you have to buy it at full price, you are also pre paying so they are getting their money before all the post paid people. It should be cheaper not 20-30 more than someone on contract.
Telecommunication companies in America just do not nor will they ever get the European model for prepaid or how it can be a cash cow. They seem to think they should target the few high end people who will pay as opposed to making prices cheaper and roping more in. It's the most moronic thing I could imagine. | |
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2010-Aug-29 11:59 am
Re: Why isn't this cheaper?Ok.
Let's first assume that verizon knows a little about the cellular service business and pricing and is neither suicidal nor stupid.
I don't know why this isn't obvious, but both the 'verizon is evil and out to rape customers' and the 'this is a decent deal' since you don't need a contract' crowd are missing it.
Verizon's intent is NOT to get many customers on these data plans.
Verizon's network can barely cope with its users' phone demand and adding data, especially from the truly unlimited blackberry users (whose plans are paid for by their employers).
As a result, although the network reaches into places others don't, the reliability (dropped calls, sound quality, etc.) has been deteriorating steadily.
So for the time being, Verizon DOES NOT WANT your unlimited data plan business and is using the extremely high prices to keep away all but a small minority of demand while still able to say they offer the service and are not falling behind the gsm carriers in terms of features.
Perhaps this will change when they upgrade their 3G/4G service (in part to support the iphone 4 and 5).
But until their network is able to support a lot more traffic, don't expect them to invite it with cheap unlimited plans. | |
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Re: Why isn't this cheaper?said by maksik :
But until their network is able to support a lot more traffic, don't expect them to invite it with cheap unlimited plans.
I had you until this last sentence which plainly indicates you have no idea what you are talking about nor do you use Verizon at any point in time in the last few years. Their network is by far the most robust out of all the wireless service providers, it may not be incredible fast but it is very reliable all over the place. | |
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Golden TicketI just extended my grandfathered Alltel contract for another two years, mostly to get a newer modem (USB760) and the better diagnostics of VZW Access software. I made damn sure the extension was TRUE unlimited. The manager of the store reassured me and double-checked it in their computer system.
Even if cable or FIOS ever became available (HAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!) I'd be tempted to keep the service. | |
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Just get a non-contract postpaid plan!I don't know what all the fuss is about, honestly, with the whole Verizon prepaid MBB deal. You can get ANY of Verizon's plans and phones without a contract. Sure, you have to pay full price, but you can get $60 for 5GB (plus 5¢ per MB overages) instead of $80 for 5GB.
I've done the same thing with AT&T. Had a Sierra aircard, paid $60ish per month, got 5GB of data. Bada bing, bada boom. | |
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Just use wi-fi hotspotFor causal users in more urban areas, its not so hard to find a free wi-fi hotspot at starbucks or panera bread. Its still cheaper than even T-Mobile unlimited data plan.
For those must, get used or new usb sticks on ebay, Zoom offers 3g usb sticks on GSM for less than $100. Then you got to a store activate on postpaid plan with no contract and have 5GB for $60.
I think prepaid is meant more for those who have no credit yet (God hope no bad credit) and would have to pay deposit.
As for European modem prepaid, you must dream. Lets face it we Americans pay for most things more. We pay more for health care (especially health insurance coverage) , a lot more for college tuition, expensive student loans (unlike in old times low-interest federal student loans that would cover everything), expensive airline tickets. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come
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2010-Aug-25 1:28 am
Re: Just use wi-fi hotspotsaid by chgo_man99:I think prepaid is meant more for those who have no credit yet (God hope no bad credit) and would have to pay deposit. not so. on prepaid there is no USF or the plethora of BS fees that people get on their postpaid plans. no contracts or ETF either. | |
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I choose to have a prepaid phone on Pageplus because it is far cheaper than having a postpaid line. For $45 I get unlimited talk/text on VZ network. | |
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2010-Aug-24 5:09 pm
My hands are up. please don't shoot!Talk about robbery. | |
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What is the whole story?  1) How much does the modem cost. 2) Is there an initial activation fee. 3) If you let your service lapse do you have to pay a reactivation fee to reestablish service? 4) Are you cut off for the remainder of the 30 Day time period if your exceed your 5GB CAP? Can you anti up another $80.00 for another 5GB and an additional 30 days of service? If Verizon allows you to pay an additional $80.00 for an additional 5GB will you be limited to the time left on the remainder of your billing cycle? | |
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2010-Aug-24 5:33 pm
$80 is too much nowI've been using the Virgin Mobile Broadband cable modem for over a year now with excellent results. I see no reason for someone to pay $80 for 5GB when they can get unlimted(let's assume it's 5GB too) for $40 from Virgin Mobile.
Unless of course you have no other options. In which case you just go ahead and pay Verizon $80.
even on my Verizon cellphone it's $30 for supposedlly unlimited data. I'm at 4.5GB with almost a week still left from my HTC Incredible phone. | |
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T-Mobile WebConnect Overage Free Plan for $40I'd get a T-Mobile WebConnect plan for $40, thank you very much. 'sides, I don't have to worry about overages, but I don't have to pay for Verizon's coverage for Internet-only access.  | |
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2010-Aug-25 12:46 pm
LOL!I guess Verizon wants to be the next Direcway, Hughes Net, or whatever they are now. LOL | |
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