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ACTA Released: Foulest Provisions Stripped
Though it's still a bad agreement, negotiated in private
by Karl Bode 08:46AM Thursday Oct 07 2010
For years we've explored how a massive new international Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) was being crafted in total secrecy, with no input from independent parties or the consumers it will impact. That proved to be particularly troubling for broadband users and ISPs, given early leaks of the plan indicated it would include mandatory three strikes requirements for carriers, erode ISP safe harbor protections, and extend many of the more troubling and myopic aspects of US DMCA copyright law internationally.

The ACTA this week was finally released (pdf), and due to a lot of very vocal, international criticism -- the nastiest broadband-related aspects of the agreement have been eliminated. Of course that doesn't change the fact that the entertainment industry and governments concocted the agreement in secret and lied repeatedly about its impact. Techdirt also notes that the proposal still has very serious problems (too broad, ignores fair use, etc.), something that's inevitable given the way it was crafted:
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...they started at one extreme, basically granting everything the industry stakeholders wanted, and then caved on pieces there, moving slowly back. So, the document still is based on the stakeholder's positions, with the changes being an attempt to appease everyone else. At no point was there an effort to build a document that actually recognized the rather legitimate interests of the public.
Despite press reports this version is not "final," and could potentially still get worse. While this version is vastly more flexible than the initial proposal, that isn't saying much. Those interested should also read this analysis by Canadian Law Professor Michael Geist.

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Although I don't think ACTA was ever going to be released in its original draft form... I believe that the industry was trying to make the bill as tough as possible in order to get as much as they could.

One can credit Dr. Geist for bringing this to the attention of a lot of Canadians and mobilizing against it.

Hopefully there's enough news out there about so that when it does come to pass most citizens of the world will take a stand against it.
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said by El Quintron:

Although I don't think ACTA was ever going to be released in its original draft form... I believe that the industry was trying to make the bill as tough as possible in order to get as much as they could.
Yes, this is a perfect example of the "they are going to take all of your children" press leak, in an attempt to make the "oh, its just the first born" pass without objection, because it is so much better than what was originally leaked.
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Pretty much...

It's bad anyway you look at it, but they're trying to make it sound worse so they can sell what they really want.
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People who want jobs in US should be for this agreement

Intellectual Property(and not just movies & music) is one of the few remaining industries in the US that still has significant exports. Anyone who wants the US to not become a 3rd world country faster than it already is should support any agreement that gets foreign countries to VOLUNTARILY respect those Intellectual Property rights and continue a stream of income back to the US. Jobs depend on it.

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Re: People who want jobs in US should be for this agreement

Could you please define for me your political affiliation? I'm not sure I was able to figure it out by looking at your user name and profile pic.

(oxymoron much? pic says no big govt. yet ACTA is nothing but big govt.)
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Re: People who want jobs in US should be for this agreement

Could you please define for me your political affiliation? I'm not sure I was able to figure it out by looking at your user name and profile pic.
Pretty sure that would be "corporate". I've never seen that poster say anything that didn't back big business above all, regardless of the issue or the impact to consumers.
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Re: People who want jobs in US should be for this agreement

I tend to agree. The problem with this view in my mind is that it forgets that corporations governments in their own right so it doesn't makes sense to seperate big government from massive multinational corporations, but I'm sure ThrowDemsOut would disagree. In my defense over one billion users run Windows based computers which means Microsoft governs more computing environments than any country in the world and to me that sounds like a pretty big government.
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also its about movies and music, they tacked on other IP to make it pass easier.

Also the fact it was done in privacy means that it has nothing good for the citizens of America or any other nation that accepts it. and they want to add the stuff like the DMCA claiming its wrong for me to break DRM. which already goes against fair use. For example I do not consider it immoral to rip a DVD to my personal media server/HTPC for personal usage. the DMCA might claim its wrong but it really is not.
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i am for freedom and honor and loyalty and strength of our USA................
i do not need ACTA !!!
we do not need ACTA !!!
ACTA = 1984
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I agree we (the ENTIRE world - that include china and the far east) need to respect intellectual property. ACTA is a piss poor attempt at this as it (as far as I have read) puts the emphasis on movies, music, software, and other entertainment IP. Is this all the US produces? I'm sure china infringes on movies and music, but who really caress besides the producers? I sure don't. Further more, isn't ACTA mainly a 'western' creation and western countries abide by it, those that already try to respect IP???? What it really need to protect is patents for goods. China has already proven that it can do stuff for cheaper. China and the like can reap the rewards of other R&D for other countries on products while not having to pay a penny. Theft of this kind is truly damaging, not downloading a bunch of movies and songs for free.
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ACTA is nothing but corporations attempting to systematically destroy the public domain. The Constitution was the "Golden Goose" and the public domain is the "egg" that unleashed all that American creativity. Once it's gone so are the jobs.
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and still it becomes illegal for non commercial copying

thus its still god darn awful
seriously
lets put all the poor into prisons YEA and they can make ll you rich mans license plates , HECK if we do it right we could just have this slave labour do just about anything.....think of privatizing this so i can invest please....
what a joke no wonder we all just ignore law regarding IP these days its being done by economic terrorism