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Google Brings 1 Gbps Fiber To Stanford
As 'beta' pre-launch before the main event
by Karl Bode 01:09PM Thursday Oct 21 2010
Back in February, Google announced they'd be deploying 1 Gbps fiber connections to between 50,000 and 500,000 consumers in one location in the United States. Google made it clear they have no interest in being a national ISP, and that this deployment would be an experiment aimed at testing video ads, exploring cheaper ways to get fiber deployed and collecting real world network data ISPs usually keep private. The announcement was a PR goldmine, as under-connected cities rushed to be chosen as the Google Fiber test bed.

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We're getting close to a year since Google's fiber project was announced, and Google hasn't deployed a singly bit, or announced the trial location. The company today did however announce on their official blog that they're expanding fiber tests to a residential subdivision of 850 residences on the Stanford University Campus.

"To be clear, this trial is completely separate from our community selection process for Google Fiber, which is still ongoing," says Google Product Manager James Kelly. "As we’ve said, our ultimate goal is to build to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people, and we still plan to announce our selected community or communities by the end of the year."

Google says they're effectively looking at the Stanford University deployment as a beta -- using the information collected to help them when they finally do announce their larger trial location. Why Stanford? Google says the campus is close enough to easily monitor, Stanford was cooperative, and "the layout of the residential neighborhoods and small number of homes make it a good fit for a beta deployment."

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Good choice

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


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Re: Good choice

said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


I hear ya .... not really their brightest idea (in my opinion).

If they had picked a smaller community college (one less funded)... I think it would have been a better deed
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You know if we had a decent football team they might have deployed it here in Columbia.
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Re: Good choice

Not only that but maybe if the city wasn't completely broke and giving out money to pet projects like it's water.

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said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


Stanford is a great test site.
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Re: Good choice

said by Rob:

said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


Stanford is a great test site.
It's *always* the test site. Seems half of the internet speed records involve stanford. They're saturated in bandwidth.

I actually can't imagine a more connected school on the planet.
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If I recall, a few key Google execs are Stanford alums. Par for the course.

Then again, on-campus here we have 100M Ethernet to each dorm room, with an 802.11n wireless overlay starting (vs. G now). So maybe they need it more...

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Re: Good choice

Ya some of the higher up good execs are from Stanford. So why not 'hook up' your alumni!

I just think they're just trying to put pressure on ISPs to compete with the world when it comes to broadband.

not a bad thing, but when you have places still without, i think it's foolish to just hook up existing areas.
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Re: Good choice

Not foolish. Efficient. Places that are already wired are wired for a reason: they are (relatively) cheap to wire.
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Re: Good choice

said by iansltx:

Not foolish. Efficient. Places that are already wired are wired for a reason: they are (relatively) cheap to wire.
For Stanford, this is very true. And you also have to understand, for a test site, Stanford Hills (that's the name of the subdiv) is also perfect for *not* dealing with any govt bureaucracy since that is fully owned land by Stanford (the property the houses are on are leased, not owned by the residents). So Google can come right in and not wait for *any* govt permits of any sort (save for Stanford's permission). All of Stanford is considered private property (including those houses), period.
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I'd be curious to know the capacity they are actually delivering. A lot of buildings are already wired up with 1gbps (Cat5e and newer buildings are using Cat6), just takes the right equipment and capacity to actually deliver 1gbps.

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Like that area already doesn't have enough bandwidth , poor choice the entire US isn't just California!!!!

Poor poor Stanford, oh but wait now it has Google fiber, MIT area Cambridge would have been better, more so other places that have potential and actually need it, NOT STANFORD!!

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Re: California!!

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MIT area Cambridge would have been better
As a social benefit yes. As a tech learning ground it would be a complete abortion. Permitting in the Boston area for such projects takes months followed by work space that would make a Cali company shoot itself in the head to kill the pain. A good beta site for learning how to grease palms and sort out which regulations must be followed and which can be ignored. Somehow I think this is not what Google seeks.
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said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


Im so confused, i've never visited a univeristy that didnt have 1gbps fibre? nevermind from google, most universities are hooked up to orion and cogentco in ontario, canada, with 1gbps connections.

Why the hell would they start at a place where they allready have awesome internet and dont need it?

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said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


Why not?

The execs are alumni and the campus is pretty close to Mountain View.
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Re: Good choice

said by Gbcue:

said by tiger72:

Of all the college campuses in the United States, Stanford definitely needs bandwidth the most.


Why not?

The execs are alumni and the campus is pretty close to Mountain View.
If any of the students getting this are athletes on scholarships, would this be an NCAA violation? Giving student athletes on scholarship gifts are against the rules. I'm mostly kidding but it could be true.
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I went on Tuesday to 4G World Expo (for businesses)

mainly promotions of applications that connect LANs to WAN via 4G wireless backhaul (Wimax/LTE).

I asked what's average ping time they can provide, and they said like CIR or clockrate, it can be kinda specified. Most people aim at average around 100 ms.

As for an average consumer, the expo was not worth going
And you needed work shirt, title and company to get in.

Of course non of it can compete with fiber or bonded T1

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The Best Test For Google

it's a great test for Google seeing as Standford themselves have a great backbone to support 1 gig .. there also close to googles own headquarters .. but a school like UCLA would have been a better choice i'm just saying
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Re: The Best Test For Google

said by MrStanFan:

it's a great test for Google seeing as Standford themselves have a great backbone to support 1 gig .. there also close to googles own headquarters .. but a school like UCLA would have been a better choice i'm just saying
Huh? Why?

UCLA needs help and guidance in many areas, but networking, broadband, and CS aren't among them. There are some issues with campus wireless - but that's going to happen everywhere, and they're just as much policy-based as they are technical.

Stanford makes sense because its Google's neighbor and the execs went there. That's good enough for me. Like most of Google's experiments and products, this one will probably fail, only to prove that >99% of the public has no real use for Gigabit speeds, nor are they willing to pay for it. Stanford is a great testing grounds, since they have an elite population - which will prove the same result. Streaming 4K TV doesn't count as a "need".

(Yes, I know, and no one will ever need more than 640K...)
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Re: The Best Test For Google

said by elray:

said by MrStanFan:

it's a great test for Google seeing as Standford themselves have a great backbone to support 1 gig .. there also close to googles own headquarters .. but a school like UCLA would have been a better choice i'm just saying
Huh? Why?

UCLA needs help and guidance in many areas, but networking, broadband, and CS aren't among them. There are some issues with campus wireless - but that's going to happen everywhere, and they're just as much policy-based as they are technical.

Stanford makes sense because its Google's neighbor and the execs went there. That's good enough for me. Like most of Google's experiments and products, this one will probably fail, only to prove that >99% of the public has no real use for Gigabit speeds, nor are they willing to pay for it. Stanford is a great testing grounds, since they have an elite population - which will prove the same result. Streaming 4K TV doesn't count as a "need".

(Yes, I know, and no one will ever need more than 640K...)
Arguing about "needs" is a race to the bottom of the barrel. In my opinion your electricity isn't a "need". People survived before they had central AC and heating, refrigeration, etc., so that isn't a "need". If we take your argument to the extreme, you don't deserve *any* government regulated utilities. You certainly don't need the US post office. Why the devil do you *need* roads again?

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said by elray:

Like most of Google's experiments and products, this one will probably fail, only to prove that >99% of the public has no real use for Gigabit speeds, nor are they willing to pay for it.
If it was the right price, I'd pay for it. Hell, we can't even get anyone to deploy FE speeds to anyone, except for a handful of providers.

I'd be happy with just a symmetrical 50mbps connection, but that'll never happen. Even a 10mbps symmetrical for everyone seems like an impossibility without paying through the nose.
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Google will Help Those That Help Themselves

I have said that Google has not been clear as to how they will deploy this 1Gbps Fiber. I have also said, the only logical way is for Cities and Communities to Wire themselves. Then Google could bring in a Fiber Connection to the City or Community POP.
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I would have said U of MN, their network sucks I hear

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stanford..

only a 15 minute drive from google hq.
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Any cities..........

Any cities or towns that didn't sign the form to be included will not get Google Fiber whatsoever. So if you're city or town didn't sign up guess what, better luck next time.

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Heh.. So much for Kansas..

Yep.. Looks like Topeka will be laughed at. I wonder if they were even considered.

What a waste of time.. and hope.. and resources.

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Not Much of a Challenge

If Google wanted a real-world test, it could have chosen a several blocks in downtown Oakland. The test could examine if the upgrade led to any business and/or residential redevelopment. Upgrading tech-savvy, upscale real estate with existing 100MB service proves very little.

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Google Bringing High Speed Broadband to Stanford awesome!!

It will be rejoice for all when every home has the google broadband connection. Don't know how much costly it would be but Google please "Don't be evil"

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