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 |  Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
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kudos:12 | Re: PS3/Wii effect said by xenophon:The recent PS3/Wii app install launch and with '1080'/5.1 probably is the issue and will likely subside once everyone goes back to normal viewing. I know I was checking it out, watching much more Netflix than normal. They also released a bunch of new titles at the time (I checked out a good amount of new NatGeo shows). I noticed rebuffering issues the first evening of the launch, but is a non-issue the last couple nights now. I agree, the new PS3 streaming (especially the NatGeo stuff) is really nice. I've been watching 3 or 4 NatGeo programs a night. | |
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join:2000-08-19
Lexington Park, MD | Re: PS3/Wii effect Just tried streaming on my PS3 lately with the upgrade. Nice not to have to use a CD to load. However, I am still just getting stereo and no HD. Not sure if its because I am on cable and that is a limitation. Tried a couple of different programs/movies. Zombie-land and a Nat-Geo. Both come in stereo. PS3 plays games fine in HD and Surround Sound using HDMI. Just the Netflix it appears to be an issue. Not sure if there is a setup issue or not. In any case we love Netflix especially during Halloween!
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:3 | Switched to Amazon.. I've stopped watching DVDs and cancelled my Netflix subscription. I've found that Amazon's unbox is sufficient for my needs. | |
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join:2001-08-25
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kudos:3 | Re: Switched to Amazon.. said by NuShrike:How does that work? You pay a lot more for Unbox than for Netflix & unlimited DVDs (one at a time) per month. Some movies are 99 cents and $1.99. I don't watch that many movies. But I do like watching the latest movies (such as Iron Man 2). And I prefer to stream them then wait for the DVD.
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join:2000-12-17
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kudos:5 | A la carte streaming? Do they off that, or is it all subscription based? If the former, I would ocasionally use the service. | |
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|  vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Re: A la carte streaming? No a la carte, subscription only, but at $7.99 a month it's very reasonable. | |
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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| Re: A la carte streaming? said by vpoko:No a la carte, subscription only, but at $7.99 a month it's very reasonable. It's not bad, but we wouldn't really need it except for maybe a movie every month or two at the most. So, I'd rather pay $2.99 per shot or so. | |
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join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Re: A la carte streaming? Amazon is pretty decent for that, or if you have an Xbox, the selection on Xbox Live isn't terrible. It'd be nice if Netflix had the option, too, though. | |
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join:2000-12-17
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kudos:5 | Re: A la carte streaming? Thanks. I'll have to check those options out. | |
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join:2003-10-11
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join:2000-12-17
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kudos:5 | Re: A la carte streaming? I was looking for a non-subscription service, which Amazon is and vpoko pointed out. | |
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join:2003-10-11
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|  gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | It's subscription based. I pay 11.99 a mo for unlimited streaming and 1 blu-ray out at a time using snail mail.
They have a pretty good selection that you can choose from to queue up the instant or dvd/blu-ray.
It's bettter than a la cart` with no commercials. You can just watch what you want to. Hrmm ultra a la cart`
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: A la carte streaming? said by gaforces:It's subscription based. I pay 11.99 a mo for unlimited streaming and 1 blu-ray out at a time using snail mail. They have a pretty good selection that you can choose from to queue up the instant or dvd/blu-ray. It's bettter than a la cart` with no commercials. You can just watch what you want to. Hrmm ultra a la cart` 11.99? I think I am paying 8.99 with unlimited streaming and 1 dvd/blu-ray out. | |
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Re: A la carte streaming? It's 8.99 if you dont get the added $2 charge for blu-ray.
The first month was free, the 2nd month they charged me 12.03.
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: A la carte streaming? said by gaforces:It's 8.99 if you dont get the added $2 charge for blu-ray. The first month was free, the 2nd month they charged me 12.03. Hmmm | |
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join:2000-12-17
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kudos:5 | Re: A la carte streaming? I wonder if it will have a la carte though, since they seem to be more subscription based. Hopefully it will, since the convenience factor would be pretty high. | |
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| | Hitch to MS = FAIL Crashes are what they get for using Silverlight on probably a Windows platform. Windows is not up to the task for heavy server loads. | |
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join:2009-04-29
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| Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL You realize Silverlight is an end station plugin? They could be running the video servers on *nix. I know of no requirement for Silverlight to be on the server.
I've found Silverlight to be better than Flash - when i use Windows Media Center it seems to use a flash plugin - it behaves better on my browser on the same machine.
Then again my Roku (old model N100) spanks my PC in pretty much every application of Netflix. | |
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join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC | I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Netflix has been rock solid for running silverlight. They ran into some backend issues yesterday, but that has nothing to do with their choice of media player anymore than having a Verizon DNS server going down has anything to do with Safari. | |
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join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
kudos:1 | Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Silverlight is a thin client platform, a rather excellent one at that. | |
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| nope, it can only handle events like the Olympics or other major sporting events where there could be a million people watching things, but when its streaming movies oh it cant handle the load..... please...... you have no idea how the windows streaming platform works... it's MUCH more advanced then a lot of the alternatives out there and silverlight, it just renders the output, the server itself doesnt run silverlight... it just responds to what the variable bitrate stream server is sending it | |
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And I believe the NFL, MLB, and other sporting agencies use Flash or other forms to distribute their content. NBC is in bed with MS (Hence MSNBC) so it was only natural MS would make it work.
MS uses that same thing to sell Sharepoint - we run our website on it. Yet most Sharepoint installations are hugely cumbersome, insecure, and a mess to use.
Fact is Microsoft stuff has no place when reliability matters. You end up with way too many servers, way too many variables and less security.
Oh, and BTW: I know how it all works, thanks. I'm sure there is lots of MS code in the delivery of Netflix streaming. From the DRM to the authorization, etc. I bet it was a failure of this MS code that is the source of the issues. | |
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join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
kudos:1 | Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL Sharepoint is a different product line made and managed by different departments and people.
Granted, it can be difficult to setup but when architected and administered correctly it can be an amazingly flexible and customizable platform. It's not the best product for everything but it's hard to find another products that can do what it does. I also didn't care for the older version much but the product has grown.
It sounds like it was miss managed at your company. I wouldn't blame MS for that and then carry over the animosity to Netflix and Silverlight. | |
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join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC | It's true that we never saw how many servers took care of it. We also don't see how many servers take care of Netflix. This is because we are not the IT teams that manage these servers. Just like when building and supporting any large infrastructure project a skilled team that knows their products and goals well is vital. All your argument proves is that Microsoft can build and deploy a rock solid streaming solution using their technology. If they can do it, then it means the technology itself isn't the weak point.
All of this being said setting up and supporting sharepoint isn't easy. It's an extremely robust solution, but like all enterprise level products that means it is complicated. I wouldn't setup and configure a Oracle server to do something that Excel could accomplish, but there are some things that require an enterprise level backend.
This line is starting to blur now with the cloud based services that some of these companies are starting to offer. If anything it should be good news for you as Microsoft's Office 365 package (updated from BPOS) includes hosted sharepoint so your team will no longer need to manage the server itself. | |
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL said by hottboiinnc:you do realize that MSFT does not have any say so in NBC anymore and sold their stake several years ago??? The only thing NBC did was keep the the MSNBC name. Two partnerships with the names MSNBC and msnbc.com were founded in 1996 by Microsoft and General Electric's NBC unit, which is now NBC Universal. Although Microsoft and NBC shared operations of MSNBC cable at its founding, it was announced on December 23, 2005, that NBC Universal would purchase a majority stake in the television channel, which left Microsoft with 18%. The two companies remain partners in msnbc.com. MSNBC shares the NBC logo of a rainbow peacock with its sister channels NBC, CNBC and ShopNBC. MSNBC is available in over 78 million households in the United States; and between June 2008 and May 2009, msnbc.com had the most unique visitors among global news and current events websites.[7][8] | |
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| well it is nice to think you think they run all windows server solutions, since their caching servers all run Linux and almost all their internal distribution software is custom wrote... but lets blame it all on windows but then netflix.com runs on linux, movies.netflix.com is a linux server, widgets.netflix.com is linux, developer.netflix.com is linux... but lets just blame it all on windows | |
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join:2000-01-18
San Francisco, CA | 100% wrong. | |
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| | |  Augustus IIIIf Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | said by itguy05:The only reason the Olympics worked was because the whole shebang was run by Microsoft. We never saw how many servers handled the load, how they were configured or anything like that. And I believe the NFL, MLB, and other sporting agencies use Flash or other forms to distribute their content. NBC is in bed with MS (Hence MSNBC) so it was only natural MS would make it work. MS uses that same thing to sell Sharepoint - we run our website on it. Yet most Sharepoint installations are hugely cumbersome, insecure, and a mess to use. Fact is Microsoft stuff has no place when reliability matters. You end up with way too many servers, way too many variables and less security. Oh, and BTW: I know how it all works, thanks. I'm sure there is lots of MS code in the delivery of Netflix streaming. From the DRM to the authorization, etc. I bet it was a failure of this MS code that is the source of the issues. blah blah another raging kid on the internet pretending to be cool hating on microsoft blah blah blah
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | Netflix streaming is certainly in my future As soon as my Roku arrives and I get it setup and working, I'll be canceling my Starz & Showtime premium channels from DirecTV. The $8.95 per month price is a hell-of-a-lot cheaper than the $25.00 a month I'm paying now. | |
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|  bionicRodFunkier than a mohair disco ball.Premium
join:2009-07-06
united state
kudos:1 | Re: Netflix streaming is certainly in my future I'm having the same problem... Netflix and my premium channels are doubling up on content and I'm essentially paying for the opportunity to watch the same movies on two platforms. I just don't know which one to cancel. I like the original series on HBO/Starz, but I also like the tv selection from Netflix that aren't around anymore...decisions decisions. | |
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | It was definitely.... A fail yesterday. So slow. But when it's running, it's friggin awesome! | |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: Netflix Runs on Amazon Infrastructure And based on using Amazon's cloud based datacenters, users who are experiencing network issues should make sure they are using their ISPs DNS servers. Using other DNS servers can result in sub-optimal routing because the Amazon cloud may choose a datacenter not close to your location.
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: Netflix Runs on Amazon Infrastructure said by talz13:said by Linklist:And based on using Amazon's cloud based datacenters, users who are experiencing network issues should make sure they are using their ISPs DNS servers. Using other DNS servers can result in sub-optimal routing because the Amazon cloud may choose a datacenter not close to your location. Are you saying they are using your DNS query to determine your geographical location? Not your public IP address? Yes to both. But IP addr does not always reflect location accurately. Many Comcast IPs are assigned from pools. Mine has shown my location as being in PA and not NJ.
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vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Streaming only It looks like Netflix's website is advertising $7.99/mo for streaming only... I thought this was only being offered in Canada at this time. | |
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join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Re: Streaming only If that's the case, then it may have happened already. | |
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| amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America | Saw that last night too... it's just the "Starz Play" which is not all of their available streams (less than half maybe?). | |
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| | 20% of ALL traffic? "more than 20 percent of downstream traffic during peak time"
Maybe 20 percent of all traffic passing through sandvine devices. | |
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join:2008-10-25
Fort Collins, CO | Re: 20% of ALL traffic? welll, sandvine's last results claims over 200 ISP in over 80 countries representing 100's of millions of broadband subscribers...likely a representative sample. | |
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Silverlight Just a way microsoft is putting more DRM on your system! | |
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| | | Re: Silverlight *scratches head* seriously? silverlight is a client player, just like flash is, what is a streamed video that is protected with DRM going to do to your system? NOTHING | |
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join:2003-05-26
USA/MidWest
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Netflix It's great not having to plug in a CD, so far I have not found 1080P, but then have only watched a small number of movies to date, since the change. I'm beginning to sweat that Comcast will nail my arse, with FOUR people running Netflix off one ISP account.
There is a LOT of interest in streaming with people who understand it or at least witnessed it with adequate hardware and broadband:
• No friggin ads Can't be stressed enough!
• Competition is healthy, though does not seem to improve other service options....Yet.
• Watch what you want, when you want, no brainer!
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HD streaming is the best way to enjoy content, going across town and renting stuff only to have to go and return it is a fail system that has no place in the modern era. | |
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