 | | Competition If Sprint and T-mobile decide to build their own separate networks, along with LightSquared's LTE build that would increase competition quite a bit. Of course the issue though is one of capital, which is why this market is so darned uncompetitive.
The incumbents have all the advantage in the world.
BTW, doesn't Sprint own a majority of Clear? Why would they build their own separate network? Wasn't Clear planning on going dual WiMAX/LTE?
Also WiMAX 2 will be out much earlier than LTE-A, and will speed everything up another 10 fold. So wouldn't that be something for Sprint and Clear to take advantage of? | |
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 |  | | Re: Competition Yes sprint does own the majority of Clear- and the spectrum that Clear uses for the most part. They were talking about running the dual network for roaming. That's the part where TMO comes in. Sprint/Clear could use it as well for roaming if they created a multi-mode device for that. But when you do that more battery is sucked with all the radios that are powered- UNLESS they do like BB and allow you to shut the different radios off and only use certain ones at a time.
I don't see Sprint building out another network. Especially when $$$$ are limited with them already and it just makes since for them to team up with Clear and TMO.
The ONLY competition that will really be seen is if LightSquared's network takes off for roaming Other than that; I don't see anything really happening that hasn't already. We'll still have TMO, Cellco, T, and Sprint. All the others just are MVNOs for the most part. If Metro can't find a roaming partner- they'll be required to sell their network or take a HUGE back seat as more and more Next Gen networks are built and the old networks are shut down over the next 3-10 years. Cricket hasn't announced anything and does mainly rely on Sprint and CellCo for their roaming; which again; will have to take a back seat if they can't merge in or start building out their next gen network either.
This is the time when we'll see mergers and or closings when more and more incumbents start building out their Next-Gen networks | |
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 kpfx join:2005-10-28 San Antonio, TX | Verizon not a threat.... yet Can't say the launch of Verizon's LTE network will be much of an initial threat to Clear.
The huge price difference ($30-50 for Clear VS $50-80 for Verizon) and the caps that Verizon has (5-10 GB) mean it's probably going to be limited to users upgrading their existing Verizon 3G cards.
Not to say it doesn't have the potential to disrupt the game, but so far Verizon's biggest disadvantage seems to be... well, Verizon. | |
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 |  | | Re: Verizon not a threat.... yet The main thing Verizon has over Clear is brand recognition. IMO if Clear wants to keep its advantage they need to increase their advertisement. | |
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 |  |  w0go.O join:2001-08-30 Springfield, OR | Re: Verizon not a threat.... yet ever been in an area where Clear has service? billboards, flyers, TV and radio advertisements, dedicated Clear stores and kiosks in malls - they generally make themselves known. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Verizon not a threat.... yet YEP! in Cleveland alone! they have ads on the electronic/tv style billboards- and normally like 5 different ads on them, one mall as a HUGE kiosk and only 2 little laptops to show off the service but you can see the HUGE green signs a good 500feet from the little booth. The other mall has signs all over it in the sign stands. Clear Channel Radio stations are giving away Clear Internet away for 1-2 years on differnet things they're doing. TWC is running their ads and some of them even have the Clear brand on them.
I've never seen so many ads for one company at once. The only thing i haven't seen yet are TV ads here. | |
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 |  | | Clear's coverage is real bad.. so I would like to see is VZ is better. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Verizon not a threat.... yet you'll have that with any network that is brand new and still being built. And actually ALL wireless carriers DO NOT tell you that you can use your device in the "coverage map" coverage is always an estimate. | |
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| Clear should close its stores and only sell online There is no advantage for them running store. When you buy something, you pay the same price whether with a contract or not. Online, you sometimes actually get a better deal and you still get good deal on fast shipping. I know from my experience, bc representatives refused to match pricing to clear's website.
Cancellation is a hassle. If you cancel let say, because you really don't need it and sell it on ebay, they lure you into transferring ownership (instead just cancelling and letting other guys register) for $25 dollar gift card. My "great buyer" started to use it right away while I did not have yet a time to suspend service bc they are closed on weekends. Once I suspended the buyer, oh suddenly was not interested in using it anymore. So I had to cancel contract anyway and paying extra days for buyer. | |
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 |  | | Re: Clear should close its stores and only sell online the stores allow the customers to actually use the product before they buy. The same thing Cell phone companies do with their products. So why close? It also allows you to save on shipping costs when buying. And you can talk to someone as well. Have a problem; return to the store. No problems.
And an FYI- you're review for them doesn't say much and says its for DSL. Clear is NOT DSL. | |
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| Re: Clear should close its stores and only sell online You cannot return there! You have to ship back to headquarters if you're not satisfied. Thats the biggest turn off about the stores. You cannot have there technical support either. Thats a dramatically different attitude from how cell phone stores treat their customers.
FYI - I know someone created Clearwire in a wrong category and there is another in the correct one. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Clear should close its stores and only sell online uh not true in all stores. You can return here. your area must be totally differnet- just like with cell carriers. And NOT all cell phone companies let you return to the stores. I can't return my phone to a store. and i bought it from VZW. | |
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 |  |  |  |  DoRight join:2007-07-20 East Petersburg, PA | Re: Clear should close its stores and only sell online Maybe it's changed but when I left there in June company policy was not returns at any stores/kiosks. You were to return to local offices or ship back. I don't see how that's changed much | |
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| Hesse is a clueless suit Don't put any stock into anything Hesse says, he has a degree in talking out both sides of his mouth.
I am kind of curious what spectrum Sprint is supposed to build this LTE network out on? -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition." Beyond AM. Beyond FM. XM | |
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 |  rawgerzThe hell was that?Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA | Re: Hesse is a clueless suit said by BillRoland:I am kind of curious what spectrum Sprint is supposed to build this LTE network out on? Nothing worth taking a second look at. Maybe they will in the next auction.. --
You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority. | |
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 |  | | they have spectrum they're not using that Clear has on their site. Sprint still owns that. Clear does NOT. If it wasn't for Sprint, Clear wouldn't have a lot of the spectrum they have now. | |
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 redxiiPremium,Mod join:2001-02-26 Sherwood, MI | Who would want it? Throttle cap is something like 5MB or several email and weather checks a day. | |
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 |  | | Re: Who would want it? proof on cap?
They throttle NOT cap. And the throttling is ONLY for congested towers. and is EQUAL among ALL customers on that tower. NOT the entire network.
Stop believing everything you read on here. | |
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| Re: Who would want it? I didn't have to *read* anything.
They don't equalize anything and if you check too many e-mails in a day you have to wait until midnight PST; if you checked way too many e-mails you have to wait a day or two or seven for the throttle to go away and the throttle won't release at midnight.
I'm pretty sure our tower isn't congested, we're on the edge of town and only a half mile from the tower, and Clear isn't the only broadband. -- ASUS P5WDE-2 Premium | Pentium D 965 EE @ 4039MHz | 4GB DDR2-1066/OCZ2P10664GK | BFG GeForce GTX 275 OC 896MB | Hauppauge HVR-1600/1199 | Lite-On SHW-160P6S | 2x HD502HJ | Thermaltake Purepower RX CM 500W | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Who would want it? yah see- you're basing that off something you have NO clue what's going on. You fail to realize that CLEAR is NOT the ONLY one that is using that network. TWC uses it, Sprint uses it and every other new MNVO that signs up. So yes there could be that many users on it and you'd have NO clue. So why keep saying shit that isn't true about them. You have no proof on anything. | |
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 |  |  |  |  redxiiPremium,Mod join:2001-02-26 Sherwood, MI | Re: Who would want it? I use(d) Clear. Why wouldn't I know what's going on ? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  Link join:2001-12-16 Davis, CA | Re: Who would want it? I used Clear, and found it to be a very, very positive experience.
There were definitely kinks though, most of them came from the IT guys having their heads up their butts iMHO, who routes traffic in the bay area through virginia or washington or whatever?! Come on! Idiots -_-
VZW's policies and pricing suck, and they might very well lose out in aircards, where sprint+clear are doing a great job right now. -- VGMasters my video game forum | |
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Do you have any real data to back that up or are you just making it up? | |
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I think Sprint will use the Same Radio Access Network clear is using for WIMAX to deploy their LTE. | |
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 |  | | Re: Sprint will use Clear's network for LTE. won't build the LTE network for anything but roaming. And that is if TMO is on deck. Sprint can build their network just fine on WiMax. And there is no proof that Sprint will build that network except for "employees' saying. | |
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 GNHtolle causamPremium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX | HEADLINE 2014
"AT&T Absorbs Clearwire's Dual WiMax/LTE Network For Pennies On The Dollar"
Streaming News at 11 | |
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 |  |  GNHtolle causamPremium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX | Re: HEADLINE 2014 I'd like a dollar for every time I heard that... | |
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"Deutsche Telekom to merge T-Mobile USA with Sprint in 4G joint venture" | |
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 |  |  GNHtolle causamPremium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX | Re: HEADLINE 2014 Yep. | |
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