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2011-Feb-17 1:16 pm
So let me get this straight...We should be happy that the government wasted $300 million on next to nothing because before we had nothing? Can't wait to see what we will get with a couple hundred million more thrown in for good measure... I'm ecstatic. | |
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2011-Feb-18 8:08 pm
Re: So let me get this straight...Ignore the instructions, ZIP CODE is worthless. Use zip to get map and zoom to your block. It seemed to plot my zip in the middle of the river by default making wired connections problematic I appears correct for the MAX speeds like it says. I suppose someone in the area MAY actually pay for those speeds. Even so far as showing different speed available with QWEST 2 blocks away. (office could get 40M, house can't altho the fiber seems to be laid less than 100ft away) It does match with what was offered. I think the comcast is correct also as for what is 'offered'. Can't imagine may here affording 50-100M but i think it is offered even if is more than the house payment Of course the wireless speeds are wildly optimistic...OOPS, there's that MAX advertised qualifier again. And it clearly tells us NOTHING about what people HAVE! Again, be sure and try it at block or address level. The zip code level is pretty useless (for wired) | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:16 pm
I want my money backIt doesn't work with Google Chrome! No map just a blank window. | |
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Re: I want my money backSeems ok with Chrome here. Site is getting hammered at the moment though, so you may have to wait. | |
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2011-Feb-17 3:01 pm
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Their map is inaccurate....Time Warner Cable does not offer 10 Meg in this area [except for business class]... it does not list the 7 Meg / 512 k that is available. The data on AT&T listed is also inaccurate... it should be 3 Meg DSL... upto 24 Meg [U-Verse]. - I checked my address on the website, it says I can get upto 24 Meg [VDSL] from AT&T... which is not possible, as U-Verse is not available on my half of the neighborhood. It also don't show that I can only get upto 3 Meg DSL at my address. | |
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2011-Feb-17 3:31 pm
Re: I want my money backToo funny. It doesn't even list any DSL in my area if I put in a zip, but there's both ADSL and Uverse
Maybe at the time it was a required bundle (POTS or TV) and didn't make the grade. | |
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I played a little and didn't see a way to add user data. It may be completely inaccurate now but if everyone here could map their actual provider and speeds, it would get a lot more accurate quickly. I wonder if the raw data is available and could be mashed into a Google Maps site like DSLR has here... KM | |
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Yeah it's inaccurate for my zip too.
It says Verizon aDSL does 50 - 100 Mbps download and 10 - 25 Mbps up. What a crock of shit! They only offer 3mbps/768k, and there's no fios.
Also for Service Electric, it says downloads from 10 - 25 Mbps. That's wrong too, the highest speed is 15/2
For Comcast it says downloads are: Between 50 - 100 Mbps using Cable (DOCSIS 3.0) It should say that downloads are: Between 12 - 105 Mbps using Cable (DOCSIS 3.0)
Also the sites's SLOW! | |
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said by Karl Bode:Seems ok with Chrome here. Site is getting hammered at the moment though, so you may have to wait. It works for me with Firefox, Chrome, & IE8. But it is S L O W !!! Fastest way is to just input a zip code. Browsing the map by zooming in and out is intolerably slow. P.S.>> It was working. Now, not so much. Site must be another of these where they rolled it out without enough capacity to handle many users at once. | |
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Re: I want my money backIt's painfully slow. Striking a deal with Google maps and having an overlay would have been much better. | |
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2011-Feb-18 5:19 pm
Re: I want my money backsaid by cruz1 :Chrome support was an extra 100 million! :P More likely IE support added cost. | |
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I had an initial problem getting it to load in Firefox 4 Beta 11. All it needed was a reload and the map worked. | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:22 pm
Its missing a crap ton!Qwest, Bresnan, and Verizon (wired) throughout Wyoming are missing from the map. Looked at my old place in Ohio, missing a crap ton of providers as well. Money well spent! | |
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Re: Its missing a crap ton!I noticed that as well. When I plug in Powell's zip (there is only 1 for the whole city) it only shows VZW and TCT's fixed wireless but when I actually plug in 'Powell, WY' it shows Bresnan, Qwest, VZW, and TCT's FTTH. TCT has FTTH for in-city limits and fixed wireless outside of city limits. | |
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Inaccurate mapWe have DOCSIS 3.0 here yet it doesn't show up.
We also have fixed wireless, doesn't show up either. | |
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en102
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2011-Feb-17 4:37 pm
Re: Inaccurate mapDate shows 6/30/2010 - maybe you didn't have Docsis 3 at that time I know it shows no DSL if I put in my ZIP, even though there's AT&T xDSL and pewVerse | |
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| coldmoon Premium Member join:2002-02-04 Fulton, NY |
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This is a joke! They don't even list my ISP and claim we have access to 10 MBPS as being most common.
ROTFLMAO! The best we can get here is 3 MP DSL and that is at off peak hours as what IS available is so heavily over subscribed that it is usless for anything other than e-mail in the evenings (slow e-mail, but at least I get it and can reply).
Thanks for wasting our tax dollars. Next time try and actually make the end product worth the time to look at! | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:30 pm
I WANT my money back!Absolute rubbish! Zooming into the map in IE, Opera or Mozilla doesn't work! Go back to the drawing board FCC!! | |
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2011-Feb-17 3:16 pm
Re: I WANT my money back!said by ForPetesSake :Go back to the drawing board FCC!! NTIA | |
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What a Surprise, they wasted our money again!Well apparently, according to this map in my ZIP I can get both AT&T and Verizon DSL, but no Comcast Cable Internet.
Looks to me like our amazing guys and gals in DC have done it again... I wonder how many jobs creating this crappy map saved or created... | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:33 pm
hmmm......BOHICA | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:39 pm
Re: hmmm......I love it. My provider is not even listed, and they have TimeWarner speeds starting at 100Mbps going up to 1Gbps. Silly me, here I am with a slow 8Mbps.
The site itself stinks; it must be on a 56K dial-up. | |
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It's very slow.You would think that for $300 million the government could have bought a decent server and a decent internet connection.
In 5 minutes I got half a map of 11787.
Maybe the govt can't get a decent fiber connection where they are. | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:48 pm
Re: It's very slow.said by bgraham2:You would think that for $300 million the government could have bought a decent server and a decent internet connection.
In 5 minutes I got half a map of 11787.
Maybe the govt can't get a decent fiber connection where they are. I know. Quite ironic given the purpose of this money spent. The site is pretty sluggish for me, and I'm accessing it from a 100mbps connection. | |
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Re: It's very slow.You want the government to make a decent web server?
They can't even make ramen noodles properly. | |
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Just wow...Works using the newest Java r24 on Mozilla 4.0.b12 nightly.
Looking at the map, fiber to the home has terrible penetration. Interesting to see that xDsl is available to a greater swath of the US compared to cable. Mobile Wireless is available to the majority of the nation, but I'm sure that speeds aren't exactly competitive with wireline service. | |
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Connection Nation is paying me a personal visit.Seriously. On March 9th a senior technician from Connection Nation will paying me a visit, signal equipment in tow. He works and lives in Colorado but *offered* to take a look at the local situation. There's a long story behind the personal visit. I've been on the phone with every possible provider in the book (Frontier, AT&T, VZW, Clear) as well as smaller, local WISP's (Great Lakes Wireless, FreedomNet), trying to encourage them to expand. This has been an ongoing personal project for at least a year after having painful encounters with satellite internet, low bandwith caps and terrible download speeds from VZW. My township supervisor and the board members have been "begging" (their word) ISP's to bring in service without any luck. After I got a bit snarky on Frontier's Facebook page and sent a few emails to CN, things started to change. My state, Michigan, put it's beta map on line a few days ago and -- surprise, surprise -- showed Frontier DSL as being available when I knew darn well it wasn't, and there were no plans to bring it through. Just to be sure I called to confirm it *before* getting on ConnectMI's case. I don't know what will happen as a result of this personal visit. It's a start, and I'm more than willing to work with anyone at the corporate and/or governmental levels if it can bring a real ISP to my area. If you find coverage errors, report them! I should add that CN is having a live webinar to take questions at 2PM EST TODAY: » www2.gotomeeting.com/reg ··· 88983419 | |
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Re: Connection Nation is paying me a personal visit.said by ShellMMG:Seriously.
On March 9th a senior technician from Connection Nation will paying me a visit, signal equipment in tow. He works and lives in Colorado but *offered* to take a look at the local situation.
There's a long story behind the personal visit. I've been on the phone with every possible provider in the book (Frontier, AT&T, VZW, Clear) as well as smaller, local WISP's (Great Lakes Wireless, FreedomNet), trying to encourage them to expand. This has been an ongoing personal project for at least a year after having painful encounters with satellite internet, low bandwith caps and terrible download speeds from VZW. My township supervisor and the board members have been "begging" (their word) ISP's to bring in service without any luck.
After I got a bit snarky on Frontier's Facebook page and sent a few emails to CN, things started to change. My state, Michigan, put it's beta map on line a few days ago and -- surprise, surprise -- showed Frontier DSL as being available when I knew darn well it wasn't, and there were no plans to bring it through. Just to be sure I called to confirm it *before* getting on ConnectMI's case.
I don't know what will happen as a result of this personal visit. It's a start, and I'm more than willing to work with anyone at the corporate and/or governmental levels if it can bring a real ISP to my area.
If you find coverage errors, report them! I should add that CN is having a live webinar to take questions at 2PM EST TODAY:
»www2.gotomeeting.com/reg ··· 88983419 Yea that connectmi site is completly inacurrate. Where i live, it shows that i have both dsl and cable availability but i can't get neither. Frontier is just now starting to get dsl out near places where i live so i am hopeful that i will be able to get some type of broadband connection in the near future | |
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Better start saving up for a t1 | |
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said by ShellMMG:On March 9th a senior technician from Connection Nation will paying me a visit, signal equipment in tow. He works and lives in Colorado but *offered* to take a look at the local situation. Are you sure he's not coming to shoot you? | |
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Re: Connection Nation is paying me a personal visit.I'm in prime hunting territory in Michigan. I guarantee I'll have more guns on the property than he does! Seriously, he sounds like a nice fellow. He grew up in MI and used to live here, so he's familiar with the challenges we face in the broadband department. | |
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Your government at workNow let's get them to take on the regulation of Internet inter-carrier compensation and peering..... because that has to be easier/cheaper than creating a map.... | |
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blame greed, self corporate interestthe era of greed we're in put Comcast and AT&T at the forefront of 75% of the blank spaces on that map. The other 25% are laid at the hands of Qwest's lack of doing ANYTHING significant and Verizon's jettisoning of anything unprofitable (despite vast customer protest saying otherwise). at least soon the technology will be AFFORDABLE to break the oil & gasoline industry monopoly WIDE OPEN! » www.greencar.com/article ··· hine.phpother biowaste machines are more expensive, but that will change soon. someone needs to leak the plans on the internet before the oil companies bury these startup companies! | |
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SE corner of Montana..Hmm.. I didn't know DSL was available throughout the ranch/dirt roads.
I really do doubt it, though. Sure, there's copper lines, but I doubt XDSL flows through them. | |
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Re: SE corner of Montana..Call the DSL company listed just to be sure.
The CN tech says that ISP's could NOT use planned future installs on their coverage map. Any connections had to be up and running, not "sometime soon" or "in the planning stage." That was one of the questions I asked because it was a concern.
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interestingIf I don't like Comcast, I can choose either Qwest OR Covad for slow, overpriced DSL! I thought it was just Qwest that I had to choose from. | |
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Data is oldData is from 6/30/2010 so it is already outdated. I typed my address in and my provider doesn't even come up.
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Re: Data is oldThe CN tech I spoke with says that all ISP's must have their final coverage data in by tomorrow, so it sounds like the map will be updated soon. | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:50 pm
I Don't Get It...If CN is in bed with the telecom giants, why doesn't someone create a web database of their own and ask for users to supply the data? Then just tie everything into google maps and you're done. I doubt submitting error reports to CN is going to fix anything... they don't want to provide the truth; it isn't in their best interests. | |
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2011-Feb-17 1:56 pm
Re: I Don't Get It...It says I can get various forms of high speed, but not a single provider is in my area. | |
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WowShows no wired providers at all whatsoever for my ZIP, only cellular wireless. That's odd, shows Verizon wireless (Only EVDO Rev A here btw) as 3-6mbps. So it provides little to no data and the data it does provide is wrong, wtf was this for again? | |
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So inaccurateEven as the date of the map, 72450 never had AT&T at 6-10mbps. They only offer 768k to 6mbps with one CO and very limited coverage in the zip. Sprint and Verizon are wireless only, and good luck getting 1.5mbps-3mpbs with that. Paragould Light/Water upped their speeds over a year ago and over 1mbps to 4mbps (with the 4mbps costing a whopping 62.95/mo w/no caps).
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pnh102
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2011-Feb-17 2:00 pm
RESTITUTIONFor everyone who said that only the government could produce an accurate broadband, all of you people, every last one of you people, should be made to pay back that $300 million.
This information was LONG AVAILABLE from the ISPs themselves. Anyone who wanted to know if broadband was available at a given location could have found out about that on their own with no government help.
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FTTN is fake fiberSorry FCC but I don't count ADSL2+ as "fiber". Next time give the bird to the ISP's and post actual speeds not advertised speeds, totally different. | |
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Re: FTTN is fake fiberit isn't real fiber until it is Ethernet over Fiber | |
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2011-Feb-20 9:37 pm
Re: FTTN is fake fibersaid by ArrayList:it isn't real fiber until it is Ethernet over Fiber FiOS damn near is from what i have read up on it | |
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