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kudos:5 | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way More like the Netflix execs. To Hollywood studio execs, it makes no difference if Netflix or Facebook.
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| Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by DaveDude:Its not going to work , no threat . If i have to watch it on my pc, then i wont be watching it. Netflix works because its on my tv, and there is no time restraints.
I don't see the issue, my TV IS my monitor. When I want to go really big I stream over another PC hooked up to my projector.
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| | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by Lagz:I don't see the issue, my TV IS my monitor. When I want to go really big I stream over another PC hooked up to my projector.
YOU are not everyone. YOU, like most people on here, are very tech savvy and are able to do what you do with little thought and/or effort.
However, for the vast majority of people who can barely understand the concept of locking down a router, even less than those who can actually secure their routers, a TV is still the major way they watch content. That's why many newer DVD and Blu Ray players, game consoles and some TVs connect to Netflix. | |
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| | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way I agree. It was SOOO hard plugging in the HDMI cable to my GF's laptop and hitting the hotkey to swap it to the TV. They should really make it easier for simple users. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by talz13:I agree. It was SOOO hard plugging in the HDMI cable to my GF's laptop and hitting the hotkey to swap it to the TV. They should really make it easier for simple users.
Again, you are not the majority. I have dealt with people who still can't connect a DVD player to a TV even with picture directions.
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| | | | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by moonpuppy:said by talz13:I agree. It was SOOO hard plugging in the HDMI cable to my GF's laptop and hitting the hotkey to swap it to the TV. They should really make it easier for simple users.
Again, you are not the majority. I have dealt with people who still can't connect a DVD player to a TV even with picture directions. And most laptops (until VERY recently) do not have HDMI output either. The majority of what? You're tossing that term around like there was some conclusive study made that shows how people do & don't use netflix and why they like it, also forgetting that with an account you can use practically any computer that requires minimal downloads to stream content over it. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by Yohangyosef :The majority of what? You're tossing that term around like there was some conclusive study made that shows how people do & don't use netflix and why they like it, also forgetting that with an account you can use practically any computer that requires minimal downloads to stream content over it.
I am not forgetting anything. The majority of people are not tech savvy. With regards to Netflix, watching it on a PC is all fine and dandy but many more will use the kid's game console or that new TV or DVD player that has that cool Netflix logo on it. | |
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| said by talz13:I agree. It was SOOO hard plugging in the HDMI cable to my GF's laptop and hitting the hotkey to swap it to the TV. They should really make it easier for simple users.
Compared to turning on the tv, selecting netflix, paying the cost of 3 fb or amazon movies, and watching how ever many you want. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way never said you couldn't use netflix on the laptop | |
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kudos:1 | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way Netflix (on tv) : one step
Facebook ( on tv ): 3 steps. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: More competition for Netflix on the way True, and redbox's $1 a night is about as much as I'd pay for a rental, if facebook is more than that I'll keep driving the 2 minutes down the road to the box. | |
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Gainesville, GA | said by DaveDude:Its not going to work , no threat . If i have to watch it on my pc, then i wont be watching it. Netflix works because its on my tv, and there is no time restraints. Plus amazon would charge you per film, and there support is mean. Netflix probably just needs to be some features going , and let the rest catch up. Amazon is still not a threat, there interface isnt as good.
because your old age preference somehow applies to all 300 million people in this country to which netflix markets? | |
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| Re: More competition for Netflix on the way said by Augustus III:said by DaveDude:Its not going to work , no threat . If i have to watch it on my pc, then i wont be watching it. Netflix works because its on my tv, and there is no time restraints. Plus amazon would charge you per film, and there support is mean. Netflix probably just needs to be some features going , and let the rest catch up. Amazon is still not a threat, there interface isnt as good.
because your old age preference somehow applies to all 300 million people in this country to which netflix markets? No i am probably younger then you, however in reality i am not going to go around my home with my pc, when every TV already has netflix amazon, etc on it. Why is not wanting to do more work equal mean your old age. But the way, i am a CCNE
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| | Down With Netflix Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people. | |
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| | | Re: Down With Netflix said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
Sorry to hear about your business but if you don't adapt with the times with ANY sort of business...you will be eventually out of business. | |
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| | | | Re: Down With Netflix Its always been like that when times change and it will be. I bet when TV became popular in 50's or earlier, many jobs related to newspaper or radio fade away. Even more so when the Internet became popular. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Down With Netflix said by SLD:I can hardly wait until there are no jobs left. We'll let robots do all the work while we sit back and relax.
But will you eat without income and jobs? No one working means no taxes collected and no gov't money for welfare.
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kudos:5 | Re: Down With Netflix said by themonkeyz: We just have to come up with a system that permits everyone to live a decent life without having to work, and for those who want to work to have an incentive to.
I think you have watched too many Star Trek episodes or read too much Karl Marx. 
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| | | | Re: Down With Netflix Because everyone loves their internet pants. | |
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| said by Cheese:B&M Stores are a thing of the 90's, they are no longer a viable business
It's not like Netflix is anything new. I rented discs from them starting twelve years ago and still do today. | |
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Or perhaps they are all run totally automated by computers and soon will be our all powerful masters that will enslave us?
Unfortunately you are unable to grasp the concept of the many ways in which the world evolves, and in this instance it's the evolution of the video industry. And double unfortunately this also affects you personally
I'm sure the same was said from all those horse drawn carriage makers when the automobile came out.. gee looking back we really should have put a stop to that! | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Down With Netflix Video rental was a fad based on technology of the times. Technology evolved, and now it's dying.
There's many recent parallels. Remember the Arcade boom? All the full size arcade machines in parlors everywhere? Same thing. Home consoles and PC's came along, and the arcades died. Now they are just a niche market in specialized businesses (Family fun centers, Dave & Busters, etc) and even there they are dwindling.
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| | | | | Re: Down With Netflix It's funny you say that, because arcades are only dying in the US. In Asia, they're still HUGE.
Let's face it; Americans are becoming lazy, anti-social, sedentary shut-ins. | |
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Manchester, CT | Re: Down With Netflix said by telemam :Those unfortunate telegraph operators.... I couldn't sell a single morse key last month.
No wonder! Morse code keys are so passé! Iambic paddles are where it's at!
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Tulsa, OK | Your business is doomed. The time has come and gone. The best will hang on for awhile but in the end, it is finished.
Technology has replaced the business you work for. It's unfortunate but it's the way it is. Good luck with the future. :/
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| I used to live in Portland and the store fronts have always been empty just which store closes and which store has just opened. You can see that Portland was a thriving community at one time. Beautiful buildings, the architecture, the people and so on. Unfortunately due to the time people will look where their money will go the farthest. | |
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| | | I'm sorry for anyone that loses their job or will inevitably lose their job.
But just how long do you expect the physical video rental model to last?
It's not like you still rent VHS tapes. What about all those VHS tape makers and employees out of work? Should they blame video stores for not buying VHS tapes anymore? Isn't that partly your employers fault? And what about the business that video rentals took away from movie theaters?
What about the business that HBO and other movie channels took away from video rental stores?
Delivery methods change constantly, and some change things greatly. This is one of those times. And it's unfortunate to be caught in it. | |
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| | | does your business let me walk in, pay you $10 for a month, and come in and rent as many movies as i desire for that month, and keep them as long as i want, as long as i pay my $10 per month?
no? then learn to compete.
yes, im sorry folks will lose their jobs, but if you want a "free market" you adapt and survive, or you dont and you go by the wayside.
(unless your wallstreet, banks, auto makers, or incumbant ISP's in which case, you have an unlimited supply of tax payer money to keep bailing you out.) | |
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| | | | Re: Down With Netflix There is no way in hell a B&M store can do that. And you damn well know it. So your compete about "learn to compete" is way off base. How would you like it if the same thing was told to you? I'm sure you woudn't like it either. especially if you have a shit load of health issues and depend on your HMO to pay the costs. Sure the OP could go work at McD's or even Wal-Mart Stores (god hope not) and make $$$ but in the end - this guy will NEVER be able to afford his insurance nor be able to actually live the way he did.
We bailed out the other businesses that failed to adopt so it's time for the Gov't to do it again. Hell we've been doing it for YEARS AND YEARS! USPS, Amtrak, the Banks, GM (and the others- that are Union besides Ford), and who else decided they needed $$$$. You can't bail out some and not except the others not to get any as well. But HW will eventually KILL NF and bring back other venues. The only thing they have to do is increase their fees and extend the 30days out to 60 or 90days and be done with it and then decide what movies and shows they get in the end for what fees. Say you want that new blockbuster hit that just made over $12mill the opening weekend; then NF you wait 90days PLUS pay $5.00 per stream/per DVD that is rented. That WILL kill them and HW knows it and will step up to that in coming months. they will NOT sit back and let NF take over. | |
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| | | | | Re: Down With Netflix said by MEohME :There is no way in hell a B&M store can do that. And you damn well know it.
Here in Milwaukee, WI, their are a number of smaller video stores that do that, and they are doing quite well.
One of the stores has multuple formats, and the place is huge. They have some Betamax tapes, VHS, LaserDisk, VCD, DVD, Blue Ray, HD-DVD. Yes, some formats are old, however, some movies you can only find on some formats. Monthly rental rates are from $8/month $50/month depending on how many movies you can have out at a time.
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| Reminds me of a documentary I just watched on Netflix - "I Want That Record" about indie record stores...
Sad, yes. Some still survive, however. Why? Because they still have loyal customers that still want to buy vinyl. Sorry, but rentals aren't the same. Some local rental places will survive, if they're positioned to...
Take a college town. If the video store is literally less than a block away, and is dirt cheap to rent from, it'll still get some foot traffic from bored college kids; esp. when "On Demand" is still more expensive, more restrictive, and has limited selection...
Of course, if Netflix really did what everyone wants, which is to have EVERYTHING (like Rhapsody almost does for music...) available to stream, that would be pretty much "the end" for most rental outlets, let alone retail sales.
...This is what they, and you, fear most.
Trouble is, retail would have to adjust. Is blu-ray worth it? Yeah, to those who want to own, and who may also have nice home theater setups... Same thing with vinyl. People want it, and some even have some nice equipment....
Honestly, I think "the industry" is too late.
It's already sad that Netflix has made "the industry" a TON of money, and it's obvious that having a bunch of subscribers is bringing in some money for them. Making even a little is better than zero.
DVD production is already so cheap, much like CDs, and it's shameful that prices are still so high for new releases.
They could probably make MORE money if they'd have just lowered the prices on new releases by now. So many people just don't bother because it's a scam and they know it.
How much does it cost to produce the media? FAR less than it used to for vinyl, let alone tape based media, yet prices are still absurd.
The whole promise was cheaper media, but instead we have HIGHER prices! I can understand blu-ray taking time to come down, but as manufacturing ramps up, costs come down, plain and simple. Same, and especially true for DVD...
They've screwed up the economics plenty on their own and it's about time Netflix came along to balance things a little more in favor of the CUSTOMER. | |
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| | | | Re: Down With Netflix you do know that vinyl is coming back out right? You can buy a lot of records from BB now. Online and in their retail stores. So that is a moot topic to even talk about since it's back on the rise.
In College towns- most of their students are REQUIRED to live on campus their first year. so OnDemand is not an option. And the Internet is the next best thing. Why pay for something when its free online? After all you already paid for your EIT access.
Blu-Ray is more of an option now than you think. 99% of ALL DVD Players now on the market and carried are Blu-Ray except the cheap ~$40 models. You can have a good DVD/Blu-Ray for around $100. You don't need a good setup to watch it . Just a good TV and that's almost ANY new HDTV and good high quality HDMI cable on the market.
A scam? you do realize that everytime a movie is rented or shown on TV those actors actually get paid right? It's not about getting it cheaper for YOU. It's about someone else getting paid for what they created. If it wasn't for them; you wouldn't have had it to start off with. Especially the directors/screen writers. And the Writer's Union.
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Galt, CA | Re: Down With Netflix you're missing an important part of the economics of the situation.
it very much is about getting it cheaper for YOU. in the case of netflix, ten bucks a month for pretty much all you can eat is pretty cheap compared to twenty for a new DVD release or 30 for a blu-ray.
you can point to all the people who need to get paid all day long, but in the end, if you cant find a price range that people will pay willingly you are pretty much going to fail (unless you give them some other reason to pay those prices, which is a completely separate issue).
the economics of the situation ARE in fact screwed up, but they are screwed up because people are no longer finding value in whats being offered and moving on to what they see as bigger n' better. which means its only screwed up if your livelihood depends on the movement of shiny little plastic disks. | |
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| | | Do not worry netflicks uses siverlight, and that is the main problem for its users, a flawed media stream...
I use my local used book store and purchase quite often... $1 is a good price for most of my used CD...
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They arent doing it to stay in business because the market is shifting on them. They are a multi-billion dollar firm that makes multiple hundreds of million in profit every year. | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Down With Netflix That sucks.... and it's typical.
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| So. I still get physical DVDs from Netflix someone handle those a little no matter how much robotics they may have. Plus the mailman keeps employed. Really sorry I do not have that 5 dollars for an in store movie rental. Times change. Find a job I will need you for.
said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
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| | | | Re: Down With Netflix the mail carrier gets employed? LMAO! You realize that the USPS system is more in debt than ANY other business/company in the world? The carriers are their LARGEST problem and the USPS knows that. Why do you think they want to cut mail to only 5 days a week instead of 6? And Express/Overnight mail be cut on Sundays? When you pay for EVERYTHING for an employee from the hire date until their dead- they get expensive. Especially when you BUY their house from them so they can transfer and you loose your ass on it when resale comes around.
USPS is a thing of the past too and they failed to adopt. They'll be more in debt when UPS starts to release their Flat Rate Parcel Box this year. Flate Rate up to 80lbs for $9.00 and one size fits all box. That is NOT something that USPS can EVER think about doing.
and You know how hard it is to find a job period? let alone one that there is a need for? I don't think you do. With companies like WM shipping more and more of their company overseas the more jobs here leave. And that's what happens. Nursing is about the only thing he could really do and make a decent about of $$ at 55. Besides starting his own business. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Down With Netflix said by MEohME :USPS is a thing of the past too and they failed to adopt. Yes, because getting mail is a thing of the past  | |
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kudos:8 | said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
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Glen Allen, VA | said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
Do you drive a car? Then you are a hypocrite for destroying the livelyhood of all those people employed by the horse & buggy industry.
One day people will wake up and realize that driving a soulless car is not a good thing compared to earthy smell of horse manure in the morning. Local economies are being decimated, people who were employed to clean up poop have lost their homes and all those stable owners have filed for bankruptcy. | |
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| Re: Down With Netflix said by R4M0N:said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
Do you drive a car? Then you are a hypocrite for destroying the livelyhood of all those people employed by the horse & buggy industry. One day people will wake up and realize that driving a soulless car is not a good thing compared to earthy smell of horse manure in the morning. Local economies are being decimated, people who were employed to clean up poop have lost their homes and all those stable owners have filed for bankruptcy. He probably has an EZ-Pass in his car. What happened to those millions of toll collectors?
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One day people will wake up and realize that driving a soulless car is not a good thing compared to earthy smell of horse manure in the morning. Local economies are being decimated, people who were employed to clean up poop have lost their homes and all those stable owners have filed for bankruptcy.
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Mount Joy, PA | I need to use whatever has the best service at the best price. Convenience is a plus. When the end of the month comes I weigh our budget and work within that. I'm sorry but times are tough for many. I use what is most cost efficiency and has acceptable quality. Need to lookout for number 1 here.
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In many ways, I agree with your frustration but in my area -- most of the local video stores disappeared when Blockbuster was first introduced to the neighborhood.
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Faison, NC | I can understand why this would be bad for you and your friend, but as with any business you have to adapt. I come from small town America where there 20 years ago there was nothing but small shops and locally owned businesses and then Walmart came. It destroyed those businesses. Walmart went into places in town where they built large shopping centers that brought other national chains causing other local business to close. Then when walmart was done they closed that store, moved to another part of town and left behind a vacant lot with a bunch of other empty vacant stores. Those stores moved when walmart moved. Now downtown is empty, multiple shopping centers are empty and the only place in town that has any upkeep is where walmart is located.
Here is the thing though, I can't blame walmart or the people that shop there. Consumers will go where they can get the most for their money and that isn't small business when it comes to retail merchandise. The same holds true for content. The days of rental stores are over. There is a line you have to draw between helping out a local business that is going to have a hard time for a few months vs helping a local business that has no future and refuses to realize it. | |
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Camden, TN | Please. So we should keep dying industries alive so you can have a job? | |
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| | | said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME.I have worked here for the last 18 years or so.We are slowly but surely imploding due to these other ways of getting your content.Soon we may end up going under and I foresee that day.We have benefits and med insurance.Some of the folks I work with have families with children.One of my co-workers has 3 kids and the owner has 3 kids.
I have various med issues like HEP-C incurable and chronic,,,,seizures,insomnia and my HMO pays for my meds and doctors.I also have bad kidney stones and they are recurring.I need my med insurance or I am screwed.I am also 55 and it will be hard to get a new job at this age.
I feel badly for all the stores and workers who have had to suffer while the lot of you out there sit in your houses pressing little buttons and buying your videos,etc from a faceless computer or phone screen.And all the while thru USA record,book,and video stroes close till eventually every downtown that used to have places to shop won't be there.NOTHING WILL BUT EMPTY STOREFRONTS.
Some day folks might just wake up to the fact that going all digital is not a good thing for your local economy.You think Portland,ME will get money from you buying something on Amazon instead of walking or driving downtown and helping out you fellows in the places you all live.
Yeah sure like any of you care but the day is coming when more and more jobs will be lost to the faceless non-person phone/computer
I love technology but not when it comes at the cost it is doing to many good people.
We need free health care. I'm sorry for your medical situation.
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| said by gorehound:Sure many are going to comment that you need to move with the change but I have this to say about Netflix,Itunes,Redbox,etc.
I am employed in Videoport a videostore owned by my friend in Portland, ME ...
I am sure the worker in the buggy whip factories were saying, "Down with Henry Ford".
But I do feel your pain. My job was outsourced a while back; and I had the dubious duty of training the guys who were going to take my job. I ultimately wound up being one of thousands qualified chasing maybe a score of jobs available. Even an 80th percentile ranking among my peers didn't help.
Of course, that only adds to your misery because I don't prowl the video shops much, these days. Don't even know if any are left around here. And I don't pay to watch Netflix, either, so I really don't have that as an option. Can't watch what you don't pay for.
Oh, and if I did have more discretionary income than I do, Hollywood is still hosed. They don't make a lot of films that hold my interest. I spend whatever free time I have watching anime.
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When Netflix has to shell out huge amount for recent/interesting content (and peanuts for old crappy stuff) they will adjust the pricing, and you'll have "regular streaming"/$7 "premium streaming"/$14.99 "super premium plus"/$23.99 (+$7.25 "bandwidth surcharge") 
Not that Netflix ever was afraid to raise their prices or anything
On the other hand I wonder if Stars will get smacked for giving Netflix a leg-up on content library//
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kudos:5 | Re: They should let Netflix do it said by bugabuga:Not that Netflix ever was afraid to raise their prices or anything
On the other hand I wonder if Stars will get smacked for giving Netflix a leg-up on content library//
The Netflix-Starz contract is expiring and the word is that Starz will charge Netflix an arm & leg to renew it. My bet is that Netflix prices will be rising sharply before the year is out.
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kudos:8 | Re: They should let Netflix do it Or, Netflix can choose not to renew and keep prices low for consumers. NF would probably make more $ since they don't have to pay Starz.
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kudos:5 | said by Gbcue:Or, Netflix can choose not to renew and keep prices low for consumers. NF would probably make more $ since they don't have to pay Starz.
Yes, they could do that. But they would lose a big piece of the content they offer.
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| | | | | Yeah, but who will want NetFlix's "the B side of B movies" streaming then? Even if it's cheap...
Plus there's a glimmer of hope with Dish Network -- if they get through with their plan to stream content to anyone (and not just subscribers) it may add a whiff of real competition.
Of course NetFlix can always go back to "ship the dvds" business if margins on shipped disks and streamed content were to converge.
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Netcong, NJ | You people show your true colours. You want 100/100 Mbs to every outhouse paid for by the slop from the public trough. You people say it is for education, business and the medical field. Say it, SAY IT NOW; the internet is for "B" movies not to make the deserts bloom.
I will be darned if I will pay for your crap movies that no one wanted to watch the first time around. Get your hand out of my pocket. | |
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| How about embracing new technologies Hollywood should get real. Instead of looking on how to make their million overnight every night they should allow companies like Netflix and others get stronger. And if Facebook wants to start one too more power to them. Come on foobies embrace new technology make money in a new longer term ways that benefit everyone and stop enslaving us to old technology and expensive methods. Man this is the 21st century and this is the best we can do and talk about. We in a computer and file distribution age like it or not because it's more cost effective medium for everyone involved. Peace out. | |
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| | | Re: How about embracing new technologies Why on earth for? If you produce a product you set the price. Netflix produces zero of the content it distributes. Clearly the studios are not wrong for negotiating fair price for their product. | |
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kudos:1 | No netflix no movies I never rented movies until netflix streaming, so if Hollywierd wants to kill off a potential revenue stream, its there call. I never go to theaters and i have no premiums. Plus i never buy DVDs. | |
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| | Heh - dumping ground indeed Well, if by "popular" they mean all those big crappy "blockbusters" they've been foisting on us, then by all means, withhold them.
It's high time some anti-trust lawyers get after the establishment media moguls, hoping Netflix hires some. Makes me feel good about that $8/month, maybe I should pay them $12.... | |
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| You can get low end content for free Movies that have been out for a few months can be borrowed for free at your local public library. They have everything from recent releases to silent classics. Now that is your tax dollars at work. They do have due dates and the late fees can be hefty. When I was a kid, we did not have cable but we had a VCR and mom would take me to the library and we would get movies and the loan period was 3 days with a dollar a day fine and you could only have 6 tapes out at a time. I do use Netflix today and I have cable.
Sadly, the library we used to go to lost it's entire collection when the flood came through my hometown of Cedar Rapids, IA in 2008. Where I live now, the library still has VCR tapes and I bet they don't get much circulation. | |
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| The stupidity of Hollywood Netflix $10 a month, Redbox $1 a day, the price of a brand new movie to own your physical copy, which they still don't like you sharing $25.... Yeah go screw yourself hollywood, most of those movies are junk, and you know it. Most are not worth paying a $1 to rent, and I will not buy a movie unless I've seen it first, and I don't pay the price at the theaters either, so there's the catch 22... If I can't watch it first, I won't buy it, and ironically if it hits tv, I likely won't buy it after that. Many of the new movies are hitting tv within a few years now.
Maybe if they upped the quality if their products they might make more money instead of the constant flow of pure crap.
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| | Cable is getting more expensive..... maybe that guy with the store could start making some money by pointing that out to customers, as cable goes up, people will start to look for other means to be entertained.... like renting videos again... might go full circle... | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Attn Hollywood: Piracy is at the door. Just keep that in mind when you get in the way of legal methods that people love to use at a reasonable price.
Hollywood Execs are too dumb to embrace netflix because they are too dumb to understand the modern world of doing business.
Look at it from a cost perspective. here you have a company(Netflix) wanting to pay you a license fee to stream or mail out your content. However this license fee to you incurs no constant costs at all, Netflix is the one footing the postage or the bandwidth costs, you just get the license fees while you sit around and look at the brochure for a new Bentley.
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Camden, TN | Re: Attn Hollywood: Piracy is at the door. said by Kearnstd:Hollywood Execs are too dumb to embrace netflix because they are too dumb to understand the modern world of doing business. Of coruse tehy are dumb. They tried to kill of broadcast TV, then cable TV then the VCR because they were "threats". | |
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| Re: Attn Hollywood: Piracy is at the door. You forgot about the heyday of radio, where this all started, the record companies tried to sue radio stations out of existence, but in the end the payola scheme of royalties got introduced.
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| Har har its a digital world too bad so sad Refusing to sell content to netflix at this point is rather silly. People will just take the content with bit torrent if they can not access it ezly and cheaply when and where they want. Which is why netflix is the only service that can rival free content. Now that is impressive, and refusing to take advantage of the new money stream to prevent cord cutters is just stupid.
Cable is old ad filled garbage, netflix is the future and refusing to embrace it will just lead the same that happened to the music industry that refused to embrace Itunes. Compete with free or lose long term. Nobody wants to waste 1/3rd of their time anymore in the TIVO age not to mention have to watch shows on the networks schedule. My basic cable bill has gone up more in the last 3 years then netflix costs in total. At the same time the content providers in my area think that 7 dollars for a single VOD movie viewing is fair when you can get netflix for that much pretty much.
People that are techsavvy and use netflix are more then capable of downloading content for free so why not license everything you can at this point. DVDs and physical media are dieing which is great because of the sheer amount of waste the system incurs. | |
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| low end content lol Thanks to netflix, I have been watching movies I normally wouldn't waste my time on. Movies from all parts of the world, with all types of writing, directing, acting.
Sure they can't hold a light to a Hollywood 100 million dollar budgeted film, but in many cases they can out shine that glitzy movie.
At least with Netflix, I spend 10 bucks a month, and get to watch movies that may or may not be good. Beats going to a theater/buying a DVD for twice that price, only to find out the movie sucked.
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kudos:1 | Netflix Canada Netflix Canada is already there. Forget big new releases, and search for just about any classic and they don't have it. Dumping ground indeed, it's basically the equivalent of the $2 VHS/DVD bargain bin. | |
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1 edit | Netflix and dvds Sounds like most of the comments are from people with broadband. There are vast areas of this country that can't get cell or cable that would enable streaming. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
So no matter how old the content may be, this is the way we get our movies (besides, never had have HBO or showtime, so Netflix enables us to see some of their series) | |
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| | Streaming. LOL! The problem with NF is that they charge a premium for BD and yet do not carry many BD discs that are being released (particularly of classic films, like MALTESE FALCON, etc.) And, unless you have a download speed of 25 - 35mps, their only-720p HD streaming bites. Lots of freeze-ups. If you find that 1080p and lossless 5.1 or 7.1 audio doesn't matter (in other words, picture quality and audio quality are meaningless to you)...then streaming is the way to go. I will always opt for getting physical media over streaming. The only movies I'd try streaming are those that are NOT available on disc. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Hollywood Execs seem intent on allowing Piracy to thrive and probably grow tremendously in the foreseeable future
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