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Clearwire Makes LTE Shift Official
Announces Plan to Install 'LTE Advanced Ready' Gear
by Karl Bode 06:08PM Wednesday Aug 03 2011
For some time, Clearwire has been conducting tests of various LTE implementations, at one point calling the test results (with speeds up to 120 Mbps) "mind blowing." As such, it's not too surprising to see Clearwire today finally make their love of LTE official, issuing a press statement confirming that the company will be adding "LTE Advanced-ready" technology to its 4G network. The company says they'll initially be running LTE Time Division Duplex (TDD) LTE and Mobile WiMax services simultaneously.

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According to Clearwire, the initial deployment of LTE will unsurprisingly target "densely populated, urban areas of Clearwire's existing 4G markets," but the company didn't offer launch specifics in terms of a time frame or specific cities. While a sizable chunk of network components overlap, the company says they'll need to upgrade base stations and a number of core network elements to make the shift.

"In addition, the 2.5 GHz spectrum band in which we operate is widely allocated worldwide for 4G deployments, enabling a potentially robust, cost effective and global ecosystem that could serve billions of devices," Clearwire CTO John Saw said in a statement. Saw took a not-so-veiled shot at LightSquared, adding that "...since we currently support millions of customers in the 2.5 GHz band, we know that our LTE network won't present harmful interference issues with GPS or other sensitive spectrum bands."

While the LightSquared jab is amusing considering Clearwire, Sprint and LightSquared will soon likely find themselves part of an intimate LTE love triangle (assuming Sprint doesn't just buy Clearwire's collapsed assets), Clearwire has their own problems to overcome with LTE. For one, their 2.5 GHz spectrum has shown coverage issues when it comes to building penetration. The company, which was already facing questions about funding its Mobile WiMax expansion, will also need to find the cash for this architecture shift. CEO John Stanton today estimated the cost of the shift at around $600 million, which in CEO parlance likely means several billion additional dollars Clearwire doesn't have.

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FFH5
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Will they go broke BEFORE rolling out LTE?

Clearwire losing money hand over fist. Revenues up, but profits down as costs skyrocket.

»www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-···es-mount
»corporate.clearwire.com/released···D=596507
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sonicmerlin

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Re: Will they go broke BEFORE rolling out LTE?

said by FFH5:

Clearwire losing money hand over fist. Revenues up, but profits down as costs skyrocket.

»www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-···es-mount
»corporate.clearwire.com/released···D=596507

How incompetent do you have to be to lose money in the wireless market? They overexpanded, expecting Sprint and other companies to bail them out if things went wrong while betting on WiMax blowing away their 3G competitors in the early years.
sonicmerlin

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Re: Will they go broke BEFORE rolling out LTE?

said by sonicmerlin:

said by FFH5:

Clearwire losing money hand over fist. Revenues up, but profits down as costs skyrocket.

»www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-···es-mount
»corporate.clearwire.com/released···D=596507

How incompetent do you have to be to lose money in the wireless market? They overexpanded, expecting Sprint and other companies to bail them out if things went wrong while betting on WiMax blowing away their 3G competitors in the early years.

On second thought, after reading the articles, it appears Clear's growing very quickly. Their revenue and subscriber growth was amazing, and a significant portion of their losses can be attributed to shifting over to LTE. If it weren't for the bad economy, I think they'd easily find additional funding.
iFail 5G

join:2011-08-03
said by sonicmerlin:

said by FFH5:

Clearwire losing money hand over fist. Revenues up, but profits down as costs skyrocket.

»www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-···es-mount
»corporate.clearwire.com/released···D=596507

How incompetent do you have to be to lose money in the wireless market? They overexpanded, expecting Sprint and other companies to bail them out if things went wrong while betting on WiMax blowing away their 3G competitors in the early years.

Overexpanded?? They hardly even have a coverage area..

r81984
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They have to be making a fortune otherwise Lightsquared would not be trying to get into this market.
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Toguro

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That must be one old map

Chicago isn't listed and a few other places.
Ricanlegend

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Bronx, NY

Does anybody care about this ?

Call me when its already done

hayabusa3303
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question here?

Does many one know here who makes the LTE stuff for verzion? nokia maybe?

Im guessing the stuff verzion uses is the same as clearwire just on a different channel off the tower?

FFH5
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Re: question here?

said by hayabusa3303:

Does many one know here who makes the LTE stuff for verzion? nokia maybe?

Nokia Siemens supplies Verizon with LTE gear.
Ericsson supplies AT&T.
Ericsson, Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung will supply Sprint & Lightsquared.

»www.telecomlead.com/inner-page-d···?id=2060
»connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/n···al-0728/
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willzzz

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Re: question here?

VZW's LTE network has elements of Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson & Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN, the IMS intelligent core).

AT&T is going down the same path /w similar suppliers.

Only Clear-wire has the addition of Samsung.

hayabusa3303
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Re: question here?

thank you guys for the insight.
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No. ILEC/cellphone LTE is FDD. Clear LTE is TDD. Unrelated device wise. Also 700/800/1700/1900 FDD LTE vs 2300/2500 TDD LTE.

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Fat Chance...

I know this is a fat chance in hell, but will I be able to use my current Sprint 4G handset that already utilizes the 2.5 gHz frequency for WiMax?
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podstolom

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Re: Fat Chance...

Nope. Sprint phones do not have LTE radios in them, and if/when they do, and this LightSquared thing pans out, they will most likely use the FDD form of LTE (ala verizon/at&t).

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said by swintec:

.... will I be able to use my current Sprint 4G handset that already utilizes the 2.5 gHz frequency for WiMax?

Yes, as I understand it. Clear will be doubling-up WiMax with LTE for a period of time.
stevech0

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Re: Fat Chance...

Clearwire's intent to, as a carrier, use the TDD option in LTE is a fatal mistake. Only small enterprise campus type users should use TDD, e.g., in 3.65GHz.
I doubt handset/smart phone vendors want to bother with a TDD version of their products.
DarnellP

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Re: Fat Chance...

Supposedly Apple is interested in making a TD-LTE iPhone...
iFail 5G

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Re: Fat Chance...

For what network? There isn't one here.
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said by swintec:

I know this is a fat chance in hell, but will I be able to use my current Sprint 4G handset that already utilizes the 2.5 gHz frequency for WiMax?

The company says they'll initially be running LTE Time Division Duplex (TDD) LTE and Mobile WiMax services simultaneously.
I'd like to know what they plan to do for all of their existing customers, like myself, who've recently purchased Clear WiMax gear.

The wording (initially running simultaneously) leaves me with an empty feeling that WiMax will be quickly abandoned once they've rolled out LTE, and with it goes any support for these hundred-dollar modems we've bought and paid for.

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No thanks.

Just a new name for the same throttle.
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she'll be coming around the mountain...

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She'll be coming around the mountain when she comes, Yee Haw! She'll be $200 a gigabyte when she comes.. etc, etc.