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Sprint Gives LightSquared Until March
As Faint Funeral Music Begins to Play
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Last October Sprint finally uneveiled their LTE plans, noting that in addition to partnering with Clearwire Sprint would partner with LightSquared, hopefully using LightSquared's 1600MHz spectrum for LTE FDD. That of course depends on LightSquared's ability to manage the increasingly-ugly problems they're having getting regulatory approval, which hinge in turn on whether or not they can fix their network's potential to interfere with GPS signals. In early January Sprint gave LightSquared a thirty-day extension to work out regulatory headaches. That didn't help, so Sprint has now given LightSquared until mid-March to sort out their problems. It's not clear that the six-week extension is going to help, given that the last time we left LightSquared, they were busy claiming the GPS testing process was completely rigged, so one gets the sense things won't be resolved anytime soon -- if at all.

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Faint funeral music??????????????

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Sprint and LightSquared.

Sprint should get out of any deal with LightSquared. If that dumb idea network is turned on and creates GPS interference that causes injuries and deaths, Sprint is going to look dumber than they did in the aftermath of the merger with Nextel. It will be interesting to see what happens if they go bankrupt from their bad management, poor strategic planning.
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Re: Sprint and LightSquared.

Sprint is already basically bankrupt. They've already said they spent all their cash with the iPhone deal. This is why their LTE network depends so much on other companies and deals. Sprint is just going to bury themselves and much more. They just need to figure out how to get out of the retail business and go direct to an MVNOE and be done with it.
vlad1000

join:2005-05-19
Brooklyn, NY

wow....

and i actually thought that there will be a real competition in mobile broadband market...
Brisk

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It's not about the network's potential to interfere with GPS

It's about the network's potential to interfere with poorly-designed GPS receivers that work outside of specification.
LightSquared did nothing wrong in it's business plans, I believe it falls on the backs of the receiver manufacturers to fix this. They made sloppy equipment.
If the FCC had interference concerns, then it shouldn't have licensed the spectrum to begin with.

Speaking of which, isn't this covered under the old FCC adage "Device must accept any interference, including interference that may cause undesired operation" ?

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Re: It's not about the network's potential to interfere with GPS

said by Brisk:

It's about the network's potential to interfere with poorly-designed GPS receivers that work outside of specification.
LightSquared did nothing wrong in it's business plans, I believe it falls on the backs of the receiver manufacturers to fix this. They made sloppy equipment.
If the FCC had interference concerns, then it shouldn't have licensed the spectrum to begin with.

Speaking of which, isn't this covered under the old FCC adage "Device must accept any interference, including interference that may cause undesired operation" ?

Here we go again...

No it's not covered under Part 15 or anything else.

LS's license is for Satellite-to-ground communication. The FCC granted a waiver *if* LS could prove that they wouldn't interfere with GPS devices. Well, they couldn't.

Modern low-end GPS devices do not have the sharp filtering necessary to filter out LS's ground-to-ground signal which is an order of magnitude more powerful than the space-to-ground signal that everyone originally expected to be there.

Had LS done space-to-ground, then there'd be no interference problem with GPS devices because they were designed with that in mind. The burden is on LS to essentially build a ground network using the same power level as that which would be received from space. That, unfortunately would be difficult and expensive but would not interfere with GPS.

The problem here was that LS thought they had found "free money" by converting this satellite-to-ground license into essentially a nation-wide ground-based license. Now they're angry because they're finding out that the licenses are really worth what they paid for them, which wasn't a lot, compared to what similar licenses would go for at auction.

So the bottom line again is this: Either change your biz plan to utilize satellite-to-ground comms like your license states, or try and get your money back and turn in the license.
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said by Brisk:

Speaking of which, isn't this covered under the old FCC adage "Device must accept any interference, including interference that may cause undesired operation" ?

But that conflicts with another old FCC adage - don't mess with the military, or the FAA, or any other large federal agency with a lot of influence in Congress.
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Part 15 doesn't apply to avionics and military devices.

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You might find that part 15 sticker on your Garmin or TomTom but I'll defy anyone to find one glued onto the GPS in the avionics bay of an airliner.

And, I wish someone would post a link to those GPS receiver specifications mandated by FCC or anyone else that the industry has failed to comply with.

Is there anyone here who could have guessed what kind of filter to fit into a GPS receiver way back during 2003? The engineers were flabbergasted when they finally saw the Lightsquared network operating plan after it was provided to the interference test group early 2011.
bugabuga

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Extension? :)

This will be what, second or third extension they're giving to LightSquared? I'm pretty sure that unless LS gets outright denial by that time, there will be Yet Another Extension.
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Lightsquared's fate

Who controls Lightsquared's fate?

a) Sprint
b) FCC
c) Harbinger Debtors
d) The people
e) The DoD
f) The FAA
g) Carl Ichan
h) Farmers
i) Lightsquared itself
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Re: Lightsquared's fate

j) All of the above

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Re: Lightsquared's fate

The biggest one is now the DoD since with the signing of the NDAA. It gave the DoD the final approval over all spectrum interference issues that touch any GPS spectrum.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Sprint & LightSquared

Months and months ago, when Sprint was in here pitching something-or-another to me, their cellular system rebuild and LightSquared came up. I lauded them on the new cellular system design, but expressed my opinion to the "networking guy" that LightSquared thing was never going to happen. He was surprised to hear that. I explained why. He was surprised to hear that, too (naturally).

Sprint has always, in the past, impressed me as being smarter than this.
criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY

WiMax Reprieve

Given their ongoing headaches with their Lightsquared LTE pipedream, does this mean Sprint may have to limp along with WiMax longer than they thought originally?

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