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Hastings Downplays Netflix as Cable Competitor
Insists HBO Go is His Biggest Competitor
by Karl Bode 04:35PM Thursday Mar 01 2012
Speaking at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom conference in San Francisco this week, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings insisted he sees the services as more of an added option to your cable bundle than he sees it as a traditional cable alternative. Granted that's not something entirely in Hasting's control, gitraders entire cable and broadcast industry does everything in its power to ensure Netflix won't compete with cable by imposing punitive licensing arrangements (like the 56 day new release delay). Hastings continues to insist that HBO Go is the company's primary competitor, and poked fun at the idea cable is really threatened by Netflix. "Yeah, that 92% Comcast operating margin is really under a lot of pressure," jokes Hastings. "There is no financial pressure on ISPs."

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Bill Neilson
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Cancelled Netflix months ago and still see

little to no reason to add it back with their streaming service being laughably light, imo.

After a few months of use, it got stale quickly.

They better add more and more content in a reasonable price or else more will leave
rick0204

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North Bergen, NJ

Re: Cancelled Netflix months ago and still see

I am ready to cancel the streaming also. Already cancelled the DVD's. Streaming is very stale now and all the Starz movies/shows are gone. Today is the first of the month and usually Netflix adds many titles to streaming. But today only 15 titles were added.

28619103
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Is Netflix the next TiVo?

What is unique about the Netflix business model to keep them dominant in ipVOD?

FFH5
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2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

Looks like Hollywood Studios want to bypass Netflix completely. Soon Netflix may not be able to get streaming deals at all from Hollywood. So cable isn't really his competitor. It is the studios themselves he has to worry about.

»mashable.com/2012/02/29/hollywoo···-movies/

Two of Hollywood’s biggest production companies want to give Netflix and Hulu a run for their money. Consumers should soon to able to download HD movies and shows directly onto their flash drives to view movies, bypassing traditional online streaming sites.

Warner Bros. Home Entertainment and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment have teamed up with digital data companies SanDisk and Western Digital to create an easier, faster and organized way to store entertainment.

“Project Phenix” — yep, that’s how they spell it — will enable movie watchers to store purchased HD content on USB thumb drives. Since it’s on a portable device, you’ll be able to view content without an Internet connection on televisions, PCs, laptops, tablets and game consoles.

“[It] will allow consumers to easily access and store true HD digital content,” said Darcy Antonellis, President, Warner Bros. Technical Operations, in a press release.

Full 1080p quality HD movies and TV shows, including newly released content, will be available for download, storage and backup on UltraViolet cloud-based storage.

“The vision for this new product is to store, play and back up in the cloud personal and professional content,” said Mike Dunn, President, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. “The device renders content up to 10 times faster than over-the-top internet. We see Project Phenix as a key component of the emerging digital ecosystem.”


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IllIlIlllIll
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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

it takes netflix to get them started and when it goes live, its going to cost twice as much as netflix.

FFH5
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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

said by IllIlIlllIll:

it takes netflix to get them started and when it goes live, its going to cost twice as much as netflix.

Maybe. But, of course, Netflix won't be able to get the content to stream at any price.

DavePR

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Canyon Country, CA

Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

The studios tried this before and the gov't ordered that they sell all the movie theaters they used to own. Whatever is best for the consumer I say.

IllIlIlllIll
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said by FFH5:

said by IllIlIlllIll:

it takes netflix to get them started and when it goes live, its going to cost twice as much as netflix.

Maybe. But, of course, Netflix won't be able to get the content to stream at any price.

the only good that may come out of this is content being available for streaming that previously was not available.
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AndyDufresne
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My guess the pricepoint will be nowhere near what Netflix charges on monthly basis.

JasonOD

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said by FFH5:

....Soon Netflix may not be able to get streaming deals at all from Hollywood....

ISP's will rejoice at this. Good riddance netflix.

iamwhatiam

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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

Spoken like a true Comcast employee.

Netflix comes along and creates a business model... until it becomes a "threat" to the existing big-money interests; then those interests do everything they can to eliminate the one thing that gave life to a stale, outdated business model. Yep, pure greed at work.

Consumers, though, have the ultimate control: give us what we want at the price we're willing to pay, or we won't buy anything from you at all. Chew on that "Hollywood" (and Comcast).

JasonOD

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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

Hey they're the ones that decided to step in the content game and compete with the studio's. They have this coming.

And ISP's can't be expected to be happy with any company that uses and strains their infrastructure to threaten their business model.
mogamer

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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

said by JasonOD :

Hey they're the ones that decided to step in the content game and compete with the studio's. They have this coming.

And ISP's can't be expected to be happy with any company that uses and strains their infrastructure to threaten their business model.

Still pushing that "strained infrastructure" meme? And the business model is threatend because it's not what consumers are looking for today. People want to watch programs whenever they want. Appointment tv is no longer the best way for us to watch programming. Why else are dvr's so popular and Netflix having more subscribers than any other pay-tv service? Instead of working with Netflix and Hulu as viable business partners, they just want to bury their heads in the sand.

Neflix decided to push their own content because they see what the studios and their partners in crime, pay-tv providers are trying to do to them.

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said by JasonOD :

And ISP's can't be expected to be happy with any company that uses and strains their infrastructure to threaten their business model.

iamwhatiam,
This statement is spoken like a true Comcast employee. Do you (Jason) feel that way about Google also?
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*yawn* This is at least the third attempt for Hollywood and digital media.
First it was Digital copy, then a few months ago it was something else [I forgot what they called it, just know it was the same name as another service], and now this.

If I buy a DVD, I should be able to rip it on my own and make my own digital copy, if I want to.
If I buy digital media, I should be able to store it in the cloud, save it to a thumb drive, stream it how and when I want to.
Hollywood shouldn't be making these choices for me. If I want to buy a combo pack; meaning a digital copy and physical media, then that is my choice. But why would I want that?
IMO, it's yet another play to get people to buy expensive physical media. Instead of the lower cost digital media.
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Re: 2 Hollywood studios looking to shutout Netflix

said by Snakeoil:

*yawn* This is at least the third attempt for Hollywood and digital media.
First it was Digital copy, then a few months ago it was something else [I forgot what they called it, just know it was the same name as another service], and now this.

If I buy a DVD, I should be able to rip it on my own and make my own digital copy, if I want to.
If I buy digital media, I should be able to store it in the cloud, save it to a thumb drive, stream it how and when I want to.
Hollywood shouldn't be making these choices for me. If I want to buy a combo pack; meaning a digital copy and physical media, then that is my choice. But why would I want that?
IMO, it's yet another play to get people to buy expensive physical media. Instead of the lower cost digital media.

::cough:: and force people that have the knowledge of how to get what they want in the easiest way possible.......to download it, for free and do as they please.

I pay for sirius, but still download a radio show from it everyday..

why? Because they have yet to provide a RELIABLE way to give me an MP3 that I can stream/load/listen to whenever I want.

Another FM show (nick and artie) has a download page up with their show commercial free every damn day.....I love them for that, I don't have to go anywhere to grab it, it's right there!
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Hollywood didn't make the choices for you- you did buy purchasing that said DVD.

dvd536
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said by Snakeoil:

*yawn* This is at least the third attempt for Hollywood and digital media.
First it was Digital copy, then a few months ago it was something else [I forgot what they called it, just know it was the same name as another service], and now this.

If I buy a DVD, I should be able to rip it on my own and make my own digital copy, if I want to.
If I buy digital media, I should be able to store it in the cloud, save it to a thumb drive, stream it how and when I want to.
Hollywood shouldn't be making these choices for me. If I want to buy a combo pack; meaning a digital copy and physical media, then that is my choice. But why would I want that?
IMO, it's yet another play to get people to buy expensive physical media. Instead of the lower cost digital media.

oh no no no no no!! you MUST PAY for each device you want to use it on. can't have the mafiaa execs in the soup lines!

MemphisPCGuy
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I will keep Netflix

Hulu Plus and Zune Pass for my entertainment. Once you have watched a TV show with no commercials, or very few, it's hard to even watch a show OTA. My wife even waits 24 hours to watch Greys Anatomy on Hulu Plus because of the Ads. I don't need to see the latest and greatest and Netflix and Hulu are going to start bringing their own content.

I don't mind paying $20 to help them move forward with changing the way the Media World works. HBO Go is a no show for me because I refuse to pay 80$ a month for it, I cut my cord a year ago and I still manage to watch too much television.
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dvd536
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Re: I will keep Netflix

said by MemphisPCGuy:

My wife even waits 24 hours to watch Greys Anatomy on Hulu Plus because of the Ads.

Am i missing something here? hulu plus has ads!

SNT
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Re: I will keep Netflix

Yes you are. I believe you missed this:
"Once you have watched a TV show with no commercials or very few it's hard to even watch a show OTA"

MemphisPCGuy
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Re: I will keep Netflix

Thanks, added some commas to break up that up a bit

Another Plus (pun intended) is that they tell you 1 of 2 Ads or 2 of 2 Ads: Your video will begin in 15 seconds... 14 ..13 ...12

Miss that on OTA channels too

The only thing Hulu does that is "odd" is insert ads into shows that weren't designed with them in mind ... so they may interrupt mid-sentence ... on PBS documentaries for example.
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Tomek
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Valley Stream, NY

Piracy on the rise

In the end it is all about convenience.
If I cannot get all shows in one place (say Netflix) and you have to pay 4 different studio backed alternatives, then people just go back to old days and download from torrents or stream from "unauthorized" sites.

Piracy gets just as sophisticated. So here goes the revenue stream.

I think down the road netflix will become multi-tier service. Starz will become an add-on.
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treyatl2006

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Atlanta, GA

Re: Piracy on the rise

Don't you need a HBO subscription from your Cable or Satellite provider in order to get access to HBOgo? So how is it a big competitor?

Michail
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studio distribution sounds like a mess

How will all the content providers distribute to various clients? I can just see the cluster **** of Bluray players, consoles and IP TVs supporting one studio or another.