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Jafo232
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Boonville, NY | Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent?? I was thinking a tether, but at 12-15 miles in the air I do not think it would be practicle..
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calvoiper
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| Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent?? ...to say nothing of the hazard the tether would create for lower flying airplanes.
Remember, England used balloons on tethers (called "barrage balloons") during WW II to deter German bombers.
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| Huge Helium Balloon Sets High-Flying Record
A robotic balloon with a science mission recently set records for distance and duration in a 41-day flight above the Antarctic.
The NASA-operated balloon flew circles around the South Pole while gathering data on cosmic rays, high-energy particles that travel at nearly light-speed and slam into Earth's upper atmospher
Artist rendering of the Ultra-Long Duration Balloon, expected to fly for 100 days. Credit: NASA
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| macmouse
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| If they put up a few in a area, that actually would probably work Alright. Just "roam" from one ballon to the other as the wind pushes them around. At a extreme they could daily take one down on the far side and bring it back to the start. I bet five would be enough to provide continious coverage of a area. Take 1 down, and you still have 4 in the air. As a bonus, they can do an upgrade while they are bringing it back to the start. A bit of work, yes but not unreasonable. After all, they now only have 5 units to look after, with maybe 2-3 guys to catch the one's that are landing. Compared to *thousands* of different conduits and wire cabinets that are spread out over a city with a small army of people to keep it all in shape. | |
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| Re: Possible for temp situations; but permanent?? Have you ever tried to "catch" a free balloon? Even with a piloted balloon, the thing comes down in somebody's yard or field and you're usually depending on the good graces of the landowner to not object while you collect, fold, pack, etc.
I suspect any prolonged series of repeat landings would provoke (at best) strong legal objections from the downwind landowners, or possibly (at worst) a face-off with a shotgun toting property owner.
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| Broadband Santa,.... is that you?? Think about it, .....a hot air baloon, which wherever it travels, wherever the wind takes it,keeps showering broadband connectivity to all in reach, for free!!
"its a bird,... ita a plane,..... no, its Broadband Santa!!
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Jafo232
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1 edit | Re: Latecy? said by nicespeeds:
And what will the pings be?
Pings would be negligible. 20-50ms in latency.
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@uh.edu | Re: Latecy? that's sweet, but when the flocks of birds start migrating... | |
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Jafo232
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| Re: Latecy? said by nicespeeds :
that's sweet, but when the flocks of birds start migrating...
Do migrating birds affect your TV signal?
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2 edits | It could work I have had some experience communication through high altitude balloons. There is, or was, an Amateur Radio group in Boulder, Colorado that launched such balloons it is interesting being able to go through a balloon floating at 100,000 feet and talking with people from Wyoming well down into New Mexico. This on a frequency that in a simplex mode I would expect just a few ten's of miles depending on the terrain. There great potential in this if a number of issues can be addressed, station keeping, maintenance, the big one I see is high altitude lightning. Blue sprites and red jets, etc.
( »elf.gi.alaska.edu/sprites.html ) This type of electrical discharge if far more powerful then the cloud/ground lighting we deal with on earth, and flashes from the cloud tops into the ionosphere.
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Jafo232
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| Re: one more said by hayabusa3303  :This is crap is so full of hot air it isnt funny anymore. Sure it looks good on paper , but in the real world it stinks. And why is that? Oh, I forgot, a telephone pole every 75ft is more practicle.
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St John'S, NL | Re: one more Cables are burried now. | |
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Jafo232
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| Re: one more said by r81984 :Cables are burried now. Where you live maybe, but not where I live.
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100's of miles of buried fiber is far more practical as well! LOL! | |
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Re: one more I would pay to see bellsouth put in 100 miles of fiber in the ground where i live.
But wait the bellsouth doesnt have any money for it guess i will keep my money.lol:D:D:D:D | |
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| said by hayabusa3303 :This is crap is so full of hot air it isnt funny anymore. Sure it looks good on paper , but in the real world it stinks. Why dont the bells finish deploying dsl and there will be no problems then. This is just like the blimp useless. Call up your ISP and tell them that there ballon or blimp is in your back yard and how long will it take before you get internet back? I disagree in part. This is awesome for those needing temporary high-speed hookups, such as week-long or day-long conferences, political events, etc. It saves infrastructure and equipment costs for events such as these. | |
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| Re: one more What "week-long or day-long" conferences or events need a 60 kilometer diameter of coverage? Even Burning Man is small enough to cover with a hot spot or two--if you have the fat pipe to the web.
Even a large convention with attendees spread throughout hotels all over a metro area would have problems--like satellite, this isn't going to work very well indoors.
MAYBE this could provide a temporary "bridge" to a event in the boonies like Burning Man, but realistically, it'd be much simpler to just have it serve as a single fat pipe in and out, and still use Wi-Fi for the connections to the end users--that way you don't have to set up each attendee with special hardware.
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Im against the bells and there ways. Aleast Wi-Fi has a better shot at this than this.
What about broadband over gas lines and this one takes the CAKE. Line,sinker and hook. | |
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| disaster relief Personally, its a great disaster relief concept, vs the use of expensive satellites, these could be deployed over disaster areas where the infastructure was 'removed' (earthquake,tsunami,nuclear,emp etc..) where disaster teams can quicky contact one another, for minimal effort, just throw up a baloon w/ a few solar panels and some wifi repeaters, one can have voip etc for comm, email/im for messages etc....
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New Braintree, MA | What Happened to the old blimpband pic? The one that looked like a whale? Karl must've gotten rid of the pic damn him! Its a great idea blimpband. Now all ther need to do it launch the first test blimp above New England. | |
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hayabusa3303
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1 edit | Re: What Happened to the old blimpband pic? I dont think they would want to test over new england.
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Endgame
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| Another great idea... Why don't we just put fricken lasers everywhere and use them for broadband. Sure, rain, snow and birds, especially pigeons (rats with wings), will be a problem but who cares. It will be fricken fast and go out sometimes.
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furlonium
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| Re: Another great idea... said by Endgame :Why don't we just put fricken lasers everywhere and use them for broadband. Sure, rain, snow and birds, especially pigeons (rats with wings), will be a problem but who cares. It will be fricken fast and go out sometimes. Go another step, and put the fricken lasers on sharks! lol....then they can beam the...signal around to each other....yeah.....MY TEH SH4RK IS 20GBPS!!1 | |
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| rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| If the laser has enough power, perhaps the winged rat problem is a problem no more...
At the very least it would be worth real time web cam. It could be an issue if carefree teenagers find the transmission station and start releasing pigeons into the beam for fun. | |
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Evergreen, CO
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| FFS Read the Article....
The purpose of the balloon launch is to test a new way to deliver wireless broadband to users in remote, rural areas or for example fast moving trains.
The balloon will take the equipment to the project's nominal operating altitude of 22-25 km and fly for about 6 hours. The coverage area from this height will be 60 km in diameter.
In the future, this technique could come in use in people's every-day life in many important ways, for example by linking people in remote places together with more civilised areas or by quickly establishing temporary communication platforms.
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| Why a blimp for 37 miles of coverage? It seems a ground based tower would be able to serve 37 miles with less problems than a blimp. Now if the service area was the size of Texas, perhaps you've got something. But 37 miles????
Is the issue the transmission power required from the mobile device? With a tall tower (1000 ft), I wouldn't think line-of-site is that impossible over a distance of 37 miles. Even if a tower would only serve half that, four towers would still be cheaper than trying to keep one blimp aloft. No? | |
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