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14% of Broadband Users Want ISP Home Security Services
ISP Interest in Home Automation, Security Grows
Broadband ISPs for years have dreamed of being everything to everyone, delivering every potential service to the home imaginable, including home monitoring and security services. Several (like Comcast) have made major efforts into home automation and home security, though ISPs often don't release adoption numbers for these services. A new study suggests that just a fifth (14%) of all U.S. broadband subscribers are interested in such services. Home security interest has been slow during the recession and just 16% of U.S. homes have a professional home security system to begin with anyway, but the high costs of such services make ISP entry into the segment apparently worth it. Security vendor ADT is being seen as a very likely ISP takeover target.
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zed260
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Netgear R7000

zed260

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in terms

of reliability it probably be more reliable since thered be no third party to have to deal with like adt if alarm goes out

but it raises many problems and questions do you relly trust your isp enough to for such a role and second what happans when theres a break in and someone steals cable box etc will they still try and get there cash back for such things etc
brianiscool
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Tampa, FL
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brianiscool

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Overpriced

Little do they know you could set up your own surveillance system a lot cheaper with no monthly fee's.
ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Overpriced

You could, but the monitoring service is worth something. You don't want to have to be constantly on the lookout for tripped alarms and then have to figure out what's going on and possibly call the cops. That may work for some folks, but, IMHO, there's value in being able to get someone else to do that for you.

Not that I would want my ISP doing this, however.
brianiscool
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Tampa, FL
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brianiscool

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Re: Overpriced

Companies like Verzion FIOS does not offer 911 service. It is just a survillance setup system.
ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Overpriced

If it isn't even a monitored system, then no, it isn't worth it.
brianiscool
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to ISurfTooMuch
Home monitoring systems have advanced compatibilities to determine false alarms are not. Where it can verify you via cell phone and take a screen shot when a motion detector goes off. Then you decide to call 911 or not from your phone.
ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Overpriced

Yeah, but what if I'm not in a place where I can get reliable Internet access, such as on a plane or on a cruise ship? I'm sure a setup like you describe will work for some, but I'd rather have someone there to handle it for me.

Also, there's the issue of how you're going to get that alarm data out of the house. Wireless is the only safe way to do it, since it's too easy for a burglar to cut cables. And, last time I checked, it isn't easy to get a SIM with only data service on it.
brianiscool
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brianiscool

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Re: Overpriced

If you are looking for a company that can handle 911. You are talking about $30 - $45 a month for such a monitoring service. Also if it's a false alarm and the cops come to your home. Prepare for some extra fee's.
ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Overpriced

Penalties for false alarms may vary by company or police jurisdiction. My parents' house has had a few false alarms over the past four years or so, and there have never been any charges for those.

Packeteers
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exposed wiring flaw

the problem with isp based security is the majority of dwellings have exposed easy to identify isp wiring devices that a high school dropout thief would know how to find and cut. cutting it may alert the authorities, but there won't be any picture or sensor evidence to convict that thief either. all the their has to do is wait for the cops to leave after the initial cutoff - and rob the house anyway... who's going to be able to get an ISP to restore service to get your security back up within a few hours... nobody.

the only real security is battery wireless based that is hidden deep inside the house, so any thief would be recorded and broadcast off site long before he could disable jam or remove it.
ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

ISurfTooMuch

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No thanks

Don't get me wrong, U-verse has been rock solid for me, but, when I think of alarm service, I don't think of my ISP. I have a smallish regional company for that, and they do an excellent job. In fact, one of their installers was retired from BellSouth. At any rate, they set me up with a cellular link back to their monitoring station, so I don't have to worry about someone cutting cables to my house in order to disable the system, and, in the two instances when I've accidentally set it off, they've called within a few seconds.

All I'm saying is that, why should I get my ISP to do something like this when I can go with a company whose only business is alarms? Just because my ISP can offer me Internet service doesn't mean they know a thing about home security.
Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

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Re: No thanks

said by ISurfTooMuch:

All I'm saying is that, why should I get my ISP to do something like this when I can go with a company whose only business is alarms? Just because my ISP can offer me Internet service doesn't mean they know a thing about home security.

It's not just about how much they know about home security but also how committed are they to home security. It will never be the core business of a company like Comcast.

jfleni
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My ISP:
a) cannot keep track of payments;
b) cannot make a working application to receive online payments (the one they use jumps around like an old-timey pinball machine, and all the numbers disappear when you enter anything -- my bank account data is NOT going to THAT!;
c) took seven years to finally get Internet working well.

These guys are alright for M. Mouse and the comics, but NOT for anything serious like alarms!

antdude
A Ninja Ant
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United State
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antdude

VIP

What about during maintenance times?

Does security still work during maintenance times? After 1 AM PDT, cable TV and Internet went down for about an hour. How would home security work in this situation? What about cut lines?

trythisfirst
@comcast.net

trythisfirst

Anon

xfinity home

The Comcast system has a cellular backup included. Don't know about the others.

aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FiOS
Asus RT-N56U
Asus RT-N65

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A fifth?...

. "...A new study suggests that just a fifth (14%) of all U.S. broadband.."

Since when is 14% one fifth. 14% isn't even one sixth. It's not even one seventh, but that would be the closest fraction to use. So it should say one seventh (14%) of all U.S. broadband....


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