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Redbox/Verizon Streaming Pricing Leaked
Service Should Launch December 17
by Karl Bode 08:41AM Friday Nov 30 2012
GigaOM's Janko Roettgers has nabbed some early, as-yet unrevealed pricing details on Verizon and RedBox's upcoming video streaming effort. As previous hints had suggested, it appears that the joint effort will engage in very low pricing in order to grab a huge market share from Netflix, with pricing plans running as low as $6 a month. $6 will give customers unlimited access to their streaming catalog, while $8 will give unlimited streaming access and four vouchers for physical DVD kiosk rentals each month. They'll also be offering newer titles for rental or sale. The catalog will initially be considerably smaller than Netflix, though that's expected to quickly improve. The service should launch December 17 across numerous platforms, including Android, iOS, the Xbox 360

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Justin24

@chase.com

FiOS

Will this be available on Fios??

Ny Banker

@comcast.net

Re: FiOS

No, of course it will not be avaiable on FIOS. Give me a break.

JasonOD

@comcast.net

Studios and Content Owners need to be careful....

As allowing unlimited $6mo streaming & $8mo streaming+4 DVDs will be sending signals to the marketplace, and runs counter to what their strategy with netflix has been to get pricing in line with the contents value or have it removed.
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Re: Studios and Content Owners need to be careful....

said by JasonOD :

As allowing unlimited $6mo streaming & $8mo streaming+4 DVDs will be sending signals to the marketplace, and runs counter to what their strategy with netflix has been to get pricing in line with the contents value or have it removed.

Given Redbox' even-more-underwhelming libraries, I don't think Netflix has anything to worry about.

While Hastings received a lot of populist rage for adjusting his pricing last year, it was the right move to sustain the service, and the subscription levels reflect it.

Netflix' real problem is bit delivery; if they don't negotiate a long-term strategy to get around "net neutrality" limitations, the MSO's will have a renewed opportunity to promote their own VOD services.

AnonFTW

@reliablehosting.com

Movie Selection

The movie selection can't possibly be much worse than Netflix. I'm sure the TV episode selection will lack in comparison to Netflix however.

morbo
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This will be interesting

With Verizon backing this initiative, this will be interesting to watch unfold.
Beans

join:2005-07-16
united state

Re: This will be interesting

Ok, so how is this suppose to work with people still stuck on 3mbps. I don't want to wait 40 hours for movie to download. Still good deal btw.

kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY

Re: This will be interesting

I don't think you're quite up to speed on the bandwidth required for the streaming services to stream their "HD Quality" movies. Hint: it's not like they stream anything at Blu-Ray equivalent.

aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
said by Beans:

Ok, so how is this suppose to work with people still stuck on 3mbps. I don't want to wait 40 hours for movie to download. Still good deal btw.

It should work the same way as any other streaming service. It's a streaming service, not a download service.

But even on my Girlfriends 1.25 Mb/s DSL connection she can stream from netflix with zero issues. Of course it's not HD, but if she had 3Mb/s DSL she would be able to get the 720P HD streams from netflix.
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Re: This will be interesting

said by aaronwt:

Of course it's not HD, but if she had 3Mb/s DSL she would be able to get the 720P HD streams from netflix.

Netflix's HD streams always used around 4.5 to 5.5mbit/s on my gear. Can they compress HD into 3mbit/s?
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
There is no magic wand. Verizon/Coinstar will have to pay the same streaming fees as Netflix (probably more) as they will be smaller.

This is a blockbuster redux (remember the bait and switch they pulled).

Coinstar has resorted to buying commercial DVD to get around release windows, so it's not like they are in good graces with content owners also.

These vouchers are a good idea, but guess what how are they going to implement them? It is 1 voucher PER DAY, or do they allow say 2 days grace period. These are not small details.

Obviously this will not sustain long term, so prices will probably climb to $9.99 (I'm assuming that's their target). Maybe the plan is to catch people with vouchers (make a few extra bucks off of late fees) to make up for the lower loss leader. I'm sure their actuaries know this down to the penny. And bluray titles?

IMO, amazon and netflix SUCK at movies, so this venture has potential, except you need to roll your car to get the latest movie, so this is some have a$$ed scheme no better than Blockbuster.

Nirvana: Catalogs of TV shows and movies streamed (no car roll) for say $2-$3.

Now wouldn't it be awesome if your local Redbox streamed from THE BOX to your house over whitespace wireless and bypass the greed channel

morbo
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Re: This will be interesting

Content holders are the kink in all of these plans. They want to be paid and paid well to compensate for the end of DVD and the high price of production.

The thing about Netflix is that they are going to have to raise rates soon. There is no way around the huge licensing costs. So yes, Coinstar/Verizon is in the same boat here-- expensive content. However, the key is to create value in this emerging market.
rebus9

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said by elefante72:

Obviously this will not sustain long term, so prices will probably climb to $9.99

Don't forget that Verizon already owns the transit network which has a ton of excess capacity, unlike Netflix which has to pay someone else to deliver their streams.

For Verizon, the delivery cost (compared to Netflix) will be nominal.

Snakeoil
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I think it will be like Dish and Blockbuster.
Meaning only available to verizon customers. So while it may poach Verizon customers away from Netflix/hulu/Amazon/Itunes/Vudu, it won't hurt as much.
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morbo
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Re: This will be interesting

said by Snakeoil:

I think it will be like Dish and Blockbuster.
Meaning only available to verizon customers.

I disagree. We should be able to find this out in a few weeks.

ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Will this require

having Verizon as your ISP? The only choice I have is Comcast, unless I want subpar Verizon DSL, even though FiOS is less than 500' from my home down a 4 lane highway. Since it appears they are done with build out, that means my subdivision will never have anyone but Comcast as a provider.

Bill Neilson
Premium
join:2009-07-08
Arlington, VA

Oh, don't worry everyone

I am sure this will be doubled within 6 months. Maybe quicker if it becomes popular.

"Today, Verizon has decided NOT to raise prices on our video streaming program. Instead, we are now forcing everyone to pay another $6-$8 for 'programming fees' which will ONLY help the consumer have 'more choices'"
osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

Is there

Is there a list anywhere of what content this service currently has agreements with?

There will have to be some content not featured on Netflix for me to be interested in giving it a try.

cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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Re: Is there

said by osravens:

Is there a list anywhere of what content this service currently has agreements with?

Here
cyber610

join:2012-11-27
Honey Brook, PA

will xbox 360 get an app

i hope xbox 360 will get an app from redbox

swintec
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Alfred, ME
kudos:5

Roku..

Hopefully this drops on the Roku to, if they really want to step on Netflix heels.
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IllIlIlllIll
EliteData
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Beta

ive been beta testing this for awhile.
as far as streaming titles, there is much to be desired, there is hardly any titles that can be streamed.
stick with NF until RB has more titles available for streaming.
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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

All comes down to content

Now matter who does it, no matter how cheap it is... if they dont have the content people want then it will only be a niche product.

I personally would pay $20 a month to get the latest movies streamed to me.

I even like the idea of getting 4 vouchers every month I can use on new movies (they dont roll over). However, I more than likely will not switch to this unless they provide more content, more recent content and more top tier content than Netflix does.

Without that, I will occasionally get a movie I want from a kiosk when I occasionally want to just sit at home some night and I dont have DVR'd shows already queued up a waiting for me to watch.

This will be available for the 360 but not the PS3 at this time along with providing apps for android and iphones.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Re: All comes down to content

said by Skippy25:

Now matter who does it, no matter how cheap it is... if they dont have the content people want then it will only be a niche product.

Agreed.

I subscribed to Hulu+ for a while. Soon found they didn't have enough content to justify even their measly $8/mo., so I dropped it. We do have a Netflix subscription for $8/mo., and we do find that useful at that price.

No cable or satellite subscriptions because we feel they're no worth what's being charged. Same for the streaming rental places (Amazon Prime, etc.). $4-$5/rental, when I can scoot down to the corner video rental place and rent the BD for $3.50 or the DVD for $3? I don't think so. Same with the purchase prices. In fact: Those are worse, considering my wife and I just picked up a whole stack of BDs at Wally World for an average of less than $7/ea.

Bottom line: My wife and I aren't finding the on-line offerings very compelling.

Jim