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Because frankly, 100Pbmps was sluggish
(old news - 05:33PM Friday Oct 01 2004)
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CERN and Caltech's recent breach of the 100 petabit-meters/second mark is now old news; users in our all things Unix forum note that attempt is 17% slower than the latest Internet2 speed record. Students tinkering with the SUNET (Swedish University Computer Network) last month transferred around 1831 Gigabytes of data in an hour (124.935 Pbmps) via a single TCP stream, and around 492 Gigabytes of data in about 16.5 minutes (122.367 Pbmps) using multiple TCP streams. The students used NetBSD for their tests, due to the scalability of the TCP code.

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Vamp
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October 1st, @06:11PM

typo?

might wanna fix your typo ... it's 100pbps not 100pbmps

EDIT: nevermind.... wtf is a petabit meter anyway? sorry for my lack of reading it right

Omega
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Re: typo?

yea, i don't understand the whole petabit meter thing either.

I wonder what type of data they could have possibly created to take up all those gigabytes.

Maybe it was just a big .txt file.
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Zengei

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Transfering one petabit of data over one meter of cable in one second.

Iridium
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Re: typo?

1 petabit is 1000 terabits

gatorkram
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Sick of these?

Is anyone else sick of hearing about these "speed" records? What good is it doing anyone? I don't see my speeds getting faster, and cheaper from this, does anyone else?
Seems to me, there is lots of money out there in the world, and no ons is using it to make the internet better and faster for everyone else. Maybe I am missing something?

nerdling301

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Re: Sick of these?

said by gatorkram See Profile:
Is anyone else sick of hearing about these "speed" records? What good is it doing anyone? I don't see my speeds getting faster, and cheaper from this, does anyone else?
Seems to me, there is lots of money out there in the world, and no ons is using it to make the internet better and faster for everyone else. Maybe I am missing something?

i agree totally with gatorkram, let us know when it applies to us at home!
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October 1st, @05:46PM

Re: Sick of these?

said by nerdling301 See Profile:
said by gatorkram See Profile:
Is anyone else sick of hearing about these "speed" records? What good is it doing anyone? I don't see my speeds getting faster, and cheaper from this, does anyone else?
Seems to me, there is lots of money out there in the world, and no ons is using it to make the internet better and faster for everyone else. Maybe I am missing something?

i agree totally with gatorkram, let us know when it applies to us at home!

I definitely co-sign, we are never gonna get these technologies, let alone get them at a cheap price. Overseas got connections similar or even better then us for crazy deals. These damn companies keep filling our head with cotton filling. Just do it & give us fullfillment in speeds, not yap yap.
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Re: Sick of these?

Problem is normal people don't see this as what it is. a test. a test of new technology their tests may lead to a break threw that provides even 1 gig links to your house. How would you like to not hear about any technology which may lead to a new break threw?

Thought so.
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nerdling301

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Re: Sick of these?

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
Problem is normal people don't see this as what it is. a test. a test of new technology their tests may lead to a break threw that provides even 1 gig links to your house. How would you like to not hear about any technology which may lead to a new break threw?

Thought so.

actually, i couldn't care less. just wake me up when verizon's offering straight fiber to EVERYONE'S house in the USA
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Re: Sick of these?

said by nerdling301 See Profile:
said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
Problem is normal people don't see this as what it is. a test. a test of new technology their tests may lead to a break threw that provides even 1 gig links to your house. How would you like to not hear about any technology which may lead to a new break threw?

Thought so.

actually, i couldn't care less. just wake me up when verizon's offering straight fiber to EVERYONE'S house in the USA

They can't offer it in places where they are not the local telco.
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nerdling301

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Re: Sick of these?

RRGH you know what i mean
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dslsynch

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sorry. that is a minimum of two years away. i'm a former vz
employee. i talked to a vz 2nd liner last week. dracut and woburn mass are getting fttp now. vz has thrown a hundred extra outside plant techs into massachusetts for the job. i don't know why these two communities were picked. call some one at vadi and ask them why. 4017211200


Ianguy

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never say never... there was a time when no one would ever have dreamed of our current level of information technology. We will see very high speed connections in the home... eventually.

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over 1800 GIGS in an hour on a single TCP line... 100MB would be like 1 minute

= 1,000,000 internet connection per month
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Re: Sick of these?

said by LaZ3R See Profile:
over 1800 GIGS in an hour on a single TCP line... 100MB would be like 1 minute

= 1,000,000 internet connection per month

your math are all wrong :-\
swiftymc

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said by gatorkram See Profile:
Is anyone else sick of hearing about these "speed" records? What good is it doing anyone? I don't see my speeds getting faster, and cheaper from this, does anyone else?
Seems to me, there is lots of money out there in the world, and no ons is using it to make the internet better and faster for everyone else. Maybe I am missing something?

Yea...I TOTALLY agree...what good is all this if im still stuck on 1.5/256 for $30 a month

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Re: Sick of these?

said by swiftymc See Profile:
said by gatorkram See Profile:
Is anyone else sick of hearing about these "speed" records?
Yea...I TOTALLY agree...what good is all this if im still stuck on 1.5/256 for $30 a month

I agree totally. It is good that speeds are increasing and people make a note of it, but it doesn't appply to me right now. I don't even have a gigabet network! I'm still 10/100 Maybe someday this technology will apply to me, but as of right now, I don't even have what is available...

And cost, how much will something like this cost for the home user? Probably alot more than what the Sheriff's department pays me
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To all of you out there, your are still lucky. Just check this out. Here in Aruba (One happy island) I have to pay US$350 for 1Mb/256 Dsl to my local ISP SETARNET (»www.setardsl.aw) (Monopoly). Anyone out there interested to bring other companies to the island for some competition?
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Re: Sick of these?

said by Rwerleman See Profile:
To all of you out there, your are still lucky. Just check this out. Here in Aruba (One happy island) I have to pay US$350 for 1Mb/256 Dsl to my local ISP SETARNET (»www.setardsl.aw) (Monopoly). Anyone out there interested to bring other companies to the island for some competition?

!!!!!!!$350? A MONTH?
Tell me its atleast some kinad business package where they rent you a cheap car along with it

X

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i personally am sick to my stomach of hearing all this crap aboiut "new speed record" while a regular consumer doesnt even have a goddamn 20Mbps in USA.

72276539
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Wow, incredibly shortsighted people.

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Re: Sick of these?

agreed

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The cheaper and faster ISP's can carry data, the more it will roll down to end users. Trust me, you are already feeling the affect of ISP's moving away from ATM network backbones to IP/MPLS backbones. You can get twice the data rate using the same speed interface. More economic, so the cost is handed down.

It all comes in time.
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Funny how I can remember my good old 2400 baud modem and thinking it was the greatest thing. 56k wasn't that far back....fastest thing around for the home user. Now I have a 3M connection. *I* wish there was more test results posted....it obviously has a positive effect on my end....

bell_s

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well .. how about this?
god forbid some1 in your family gets sick ( i do not wish that just using it as an example) and they put him through a CAT scan or different new devices that record pretty much everything that is going on in a human body. and that data has an impressive size... but unfortunately that hospital does not have the computing power to thoroughly analyze that data and give you a exact answer to what is going on to your kid... and they need to send that huge amount of data to some university across the country or across the world ... would you trust fedex with the life of your loved one? the same scenario applies to research on new medicine ... there are huge amounts of data that come out of these experiments. the only thing you are interested is how fast you can get it... to me it seems a little childish ... not to mention selfish ... yes .. very selfish ... say what you want but i am happy and i would like to shake the hands of those people because it's from people like those that new innovations come every day to help save lives and make them easyer... you are only interested in how fast you can download this and that and in being able to brag to your friends how fast your net is ... i say ... get a clue ... you will never see these speeds and never will need them ... but knowing that universities can communicate and send the data they get from experiments to someone who really needs it is really comforting.
you are missing everything since your judgement is clouded by selfishness....
/flamesuite on

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That's a cool picture of Speed Racer!

Goes to show that NetBSD has the coding power to push the bits, that's for sure!

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43 hops over existing infrastructure

what makes this one interesting is that it required 43 hops, 3 times crossing the atlantic, and 450ms to get there over EXISTING Sprint infrastructure on a single 2.8ghz xeon with 1GB RAM.

that, at least to me is amazing.

justin
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Re: 43 hops over existing infrastructure

yeah thats a wall of data, but the ping time sucks

1234test

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I am glad they are showing what today's off the shelf technology can do. This means that:

1) both their client and servers can handle incoming and outgoing high speed data delivery.
2) Sprint (and other high end ISP) are able to redeploy their existing fiber and routers to backbone locations that need it.
3) we are getting closer to HDTV two-way communication in the near future (2010) in our household.

The biggest bottleneck is getting new equipment to households at reasonable cost (digging up the ground). I am sorry but the existing telephone wire for DSL or hub-spoke cable infrastructure is not going to cut it. Also, I (and maybe others) will not be willing to pay the more money to Universal Service Fund (USF) to supply fiber to everyone household. I have the option of getting cable or DSL at a reasonable price rural users do not.

The end equipment is not the major cost since prices come down each year for better equipment. For example, what is stopping anyone from deploying a 5/8 port gigaswitch in their existing household to play multi-player high end games? The data transfer is not the problem but the end equipment processing the incoming/outgoing data. I backup my temp directory (7 gigabytes) to another hard disk via docking station and it takes about 10 minutes (Windows XP on laptop). It is not going to be any faster using gigaswitch to another machine.

I am glad these organizations are using existing equipment and infrastructure to test what can be done today. This will allow developers and equipment vendors (Intel, Cisco, UNIX, Microsoft, etc) to know what issues that will encounter. For example, what happens if you drop a packet? How do you recover the data at these speeds without slowing down the tranfer greatly?

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Guarantee

I guarantee that in the future peeps will be all, "Such and such ISP is ripping me off because I only get 1.5pbms and they wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have a monopoly in my area."

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Re: Guarantee

said by Maxo See Profile:
I guarantee that in the future peeps will be all, "Such and such ISP is ripping me off because I only get 1.5pbms and they wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have a monopoly in my area."

I agree with that statement. It's human nature to never be happy with what you have. It is that drive that makes us all do better. If we didn't have it, who knows where we would be, if here at all.

Give me bandwidth, or give me death!

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Re: Guarantee

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Big bill

Wonder how big the bill would be at an ISP that charges per MB after 500MB or 1GB / month :-o

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Meh

Ask me if I care about backbone speeds...

Why must they torture us broadband users with absymal transfer speeds used by backbones and such?

Neil
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Re: Meh

Because in the end, the backbone speed applies, to you, the user.
Battlespire

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Speed record are fun! hihihi

President of an corp : What is the use for internet 2?
Marketing guy: to make speed records and do research on speed records.
PoaC: If we only need a 10 mbits line, wouldn't be cheaper if we use normal internet and encrypt our packets?
Marketing guy: but internet 2 is fun!

Makes as much sense as this »www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/193373 .
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Re: Speed record are fun! hihihi

I2 is for universities only so it doesn't get scummed up like the first did , with porn and such.
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October 1st, @06:29PM

Goof for us to

This can be a good thing for us to, if the backbone gets faster and thus cheaper per GB we could get either faster access, cheaper access or both:)
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sbdjaro
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Re: Goof for us to

Hummm, thats only about 500MB/s....
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Re: Goof for us to

Do you mean Megabytes or Megabits?
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sbdjaro
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Re: Goof for us to

B= bytes
b= bits
and I did mean bytes

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Me, Me and ME!!!

Quite frankly, I'm getting tired of your comments. Every time there are news like this, all you say is "Boo, they can't give it to me right now, so screw the research". You people don't realize that in order for you to have any type of Broadband, be it a measly 640Kbps or a "stunning" 10Mbps, money and effort had to be put in the past so that we can all enjoy what we have today. Stop being so selfish and support these types of research. We may never get these speeds at home, but our kids or grand kids will and all thanks to these experiments.
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Re: Me, Me and ME!!!

Agreed!! Took it right out of my head.
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Pbmps defined

Since nobody answered the initial poster's question, allow me to give a brief, if not rigerously accurate, definition of the term. Peta-bit-meters-per-second is a term that acknowledges the fact that there are tradeoffs when transferring data. The shorter the distance, the faster you can generally transfer data (think about what goes on inside your CPU). Likewise, longer distances require a slower rate (as is the case with NASA's link to the Mars Global Surveyor). Distance multiplied by speed (i.e. pbmps) just allows for advancements in either speed -or- distance to be given credit. While advancements in CPU speed will not likely ever break into Internet2's accomplishments, advanced links between Earth and future missions to Mars and elseware could conceivably advance the mark some due to the great distances involved. That will be a tough challenge, however, since I don't believe that the vacuum of space can conduct as much data as modern fiber-optic cable. We'll have to wait and see...:>)

Hope this helps some.

Bill

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forward thinkers

all those 'yawners' above probably never got beyond connecting two tin cans together with a piece of string in an endeavor to discover what science and technology can acheive.
thank god they usually end up in dead end jobs counting peanuts on a conveyer belt.

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Backbone connection

Hah you people who demand this as your home connection are tards. This is faster then even current backbone connection speeds.
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Battlespire

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hey. me,myself and i

All i want is the local school and hospital to have bigger broadband and for free. I really don't care if i get dialup 56k again.

Why i don't like those speed records because for me it has no practical use. This is for 2 computers running own the same stream sharing the same data. The reality have millions of computers sharing different types of data routing differently and not at the same destination. For me there is no technology that would come out from those tests. For me its just fame, unless you think that giving more money to telcos will help them spending more on researching hardware to route data. I have to say that the super computer research "Intel and Macs" helps design new boards, new chips, and new software that helps in the global computing that we have today.

"Me" could be wrong but i won't think so.

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I disagree w/ those who say screw this

if you don't want to see it don't come to the topic! how do you think the army communicates w/ people overseas? even if people in japan have nice 20 mb connections and we only have 5 mbits if ::and btw i visit alot of forigen sites:: without tests and breakthroughs like this we would all be communicating at 1 kb/s

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October 2nd, @12:05AM

Do we drive cars everywhere at 200mph?

When dragracers in the early 1960s starting with Kent were breaking the 200mph in the pro drag racing circuit did we see cars in the consumer marker that broke the 200mph mark, no? And even now, only a hand full of exotics with 150k being the cheapest can break this mark while still being street legal, not counting the 4, 6cyl and rotary cars that broke the mark on the flats. The question is with cars that can go over 200mph where can we drive at these speeds, I think so far interstate 80 in the US, the autobahn and of course any other 8 lane highway in the world that stretches for more than 600 miles. And even there we will probably need to take up at least two lanes while turning.

Why am I saying this, because this compares to the practicality of that 124pbps/pbmps mark. Even though it is not practical and achievable with most of our connections, it is nice to nice that our current technology can go those speeds. And even if someone does use those speeds on internet1, where can it be used practically? But that does not mean it will impractical forever.;)

rpsmith

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Re: Do we drive cars everywhere at 200mph?

Not really a good analogy. Cars are limited by external reasons such as safety. Bandwidth does not have that consideration.

baby_bear

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Your Peta has been bit by the Juice!

All fine speed just waiting to find its p2p use is made possible by "Juiceboosted!+ Gold Deluxe Diamond Platinum".

With funding help from the chubb group & the Porn industry!
Artemist

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Re: Your Peta has been bit by the Juice!

What a load of twaddle thou dost speak. juiceboosted.com is stil running, albeit at a vastly slow speed. All forums have been closed on this matter. Wonder why?

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Correction

I don't think I ever said the research was not worth it, I think I said I am just tired of hearing about it all the time. It seems to me, we see these messages on the front page news section of the site, every time a new record is set.

Maybe I am just jealous.
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d_man60112

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Now I can back up....

I was looking for a way to back up the library of congress on the internet. As I'm working on it, I can keep hitting save so I don't loose data....
rpsmith

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Huntington Beach, CA

Weak.

Only 1831 gigs of porn per hour? Pfft. What crap. Slow.
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