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NiceSo, I can plug up my PC and download Linux distro's all day. Then stream netflix on my top box. Also have my whole household tap in. I hope we reach 500GB - 2TB a month. Lets see how long this lifetime data plan works out. | |
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Re: Nicesaid by biochemistry:I doubt this applies to tethering or mobile spot.
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Re: NiceThen what's the point of unlimited data? | |
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Re: NiceBecause you can run through more than 5GB of data on your phone by streaming Pandora a few hours a day. Or watching Netflix or whatever. Yes, it's a five-inch screen. Yes, people do watch TV on their phones. | |
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Re: NiceI stream pandora A LOT!
It won't possibly exceed 2-3gbs a month.
The best way to eat data is streaming video, like Slingbox on your phone.
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said by iansltx:Because you can run through more than 5GB of data on your phone by streaming Pandora a few hours a day. Or watching Netflix or whatever. Yes, it's a five-inch screen. Yes, people do watch TV on their phones.
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Re: NiceBut in my area you can. Your point? | |
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Re: Nicesaid by iansltx:But in my area you can. Your point?
His point is simple. There are more places then not where Sprints network is no were close to all the hype. Understand now?  | |
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Re: NiceMy counterpoint is that they're actually doing something about this. It takes awhile to upgrade a mid-2000s quality network to a mid 2010s-quality one though. But upgrades are happening at a good clip (several hundred per week), such that Sprint probably has as many LTE sites turned on as AT&T or Verizon at this point. They're just covering less ground because they're PCS rather than 700. | |
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Re: NiceI really doubt that sprint has equal amount of sites up with lte. They are falling way behind and losing more and more subs each day . They have a bad reputation with data so its gonna take a lotta of good word of mouth to regain peoples trust. The speeds here on long island are under 100k down . When they start using lightpath maybe they will be comparable to att or verizon. | |
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Re: NiceThis is just what is reported by users but compare Sprint LTE coverage to ATT and Tmobile... Sprint has a LOT more LTE than what is officially announced... » sensorly.com/map/4G/US/U ··· 10sprintATT » sensorly.com/map/4G/US/U ··· e_310410Tmob » sensorly.com/map/4G/US/U ··· e_310260And this is just Sprint 1900Mhz LTE. They will turn on 800/2500 LTe later this year which will significantly expand coverage and capacity. Softbank is also investing another $16B to infill and expand the network beyond Sprint's existing footprint. 800Mhz freed from Nextel will allow them to push more into rural areas. They have all the pieces in place now but have to prove they can fully execute. | |
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"Sprint's LTE rollout hampered by lack of backhaul and Network Vision issues"..... it was only a matter of time before this story broke. | |
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Re: Nicesaid by tc1uscg:"Sprint's LTE rollout hampered by lack of backhaul and Network Vision issues"..... it was only a matter of time before this story broke.
I'll include the link for you: » news.cnet.com/8301-1035_ ··· -4g-lte/--
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Although it's not really new news. Sprint said in last Q report that they had issues with lead time from LTE equipment makers, given all compontents involved and completely replacing sites, that's not surprising. And backhaul challenges have been discussed extensively. It might be why Sprint has lot of small town and outer edges of metro areas yet is not in Phoenix. Area wise, Sprint has made decent progress, pretty close to ATT in terms of area, but not in pops covered. Will be game over for Tmobile when Sprint turns on 800LTE. » sensorly.com/map/4G/US/U ··· 10sprint | |
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Re: NiceAnd you took it to heart? Look, Sprint can show up at the 11th hour and try to blame "vendors" all they want. I know for a fact, Samsung has been busting it's behind to make it's rounds to all the switches to get the switch sites updated but and this is a BIG BUT, Sprint gave them marching orders and dates of completion expectations which is not something they will admit to the public so, lets blame the vendors. . However, getting RIGHT-OF-WAY access was another roadblock where Sprint was going to try and shoot microwaves to it's towers to bypass the likes of AT&T, Verizon and other owners of that last mile. Phoenix, Detroit, yada yada yada.. it comes down to one thing, Sprint will at some point get this completed. They have only been working on it since 1999 so it's about time. And don't forget. Sprint has had "backhaul" issues since it's defunct ION project from 1999 till it's demise a couple years later. Seems those who owned the "last mile" had a lot to say about how much "right of way" sprint was going to get. So, where's the ION cages now? DECOMMISSIONED and 2 billion down the hole. Not that Sprint won't finally get this done, but they shouldn't be blaming the vendors for Anything they knew about since 1999.  | |
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said by iansltx:Because you can run through more than 5GB of data on your phone by streaming Pandora a few hours a day. Or watching Netflix or whatever. Yes, it's a five-inch screen. Yes, people do watch TV on their phones.
So mobile companies should offer unlimited data so people can stream Pandora or Netflix all day on their phones? Also there is HUGE difference between unlimited and 5 GB. | |
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Re: NiceThat's right! If people want to watch pandora and netflix on their cellphones all they, that is is their business and non of your concern. If Sprint offers unlimited data, they should deliver unlimited data, not the amount of data that BF69 considers acceptable. I'm sorry that is such a difficult concept for you to understand. | |
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Re: Nicesaid by anon_anon :That's right! If people want to watch pandora and netflix on their cellphones all they, that is is their business and non of your concern. If Sprint offers unlimited data, they should deliver unlimited data, not the amount of data that BF69 considers acceptable. I'm sorry that is such a difficult concept for you to understand.
it IS my business when that activity affects MY service which I also pay for just like they do. That's ok let al the unlimited data lovers go to Sprint. I eagerly await the day when Verizon finally gets rid of all unlimited data users. | |
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Re: NiceI still think over all that Verizon has the most consistent LTE speeds. Mine are always at least 12 Mbps i even hit 45Mbps the other day on one tower. I don't think that unlimited really matters on smart phones. I don't really know of many places where I can't just connect to wifi. The only time I would want to have unlimited is if I lived in the middle of no where and couldn't get broadband. Which in TN that doesn't really appear to be an issue. Seems like our state is doing a great job of having broadband even in the middle of nowhere... What are your thoughts BF69? | |
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said by 88615298:Then what's the point of unlimited data?
It pulls a potential sub in. It is a facade. An illusion. The sub doesn't read any further than that headline. | |
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Re: NiceSprint should have waited until completing LTE rollout before doing a major announcement like that. LTE is great but most markets aren't even 50% complete and several don't have it at all yet. Sprint network should be in good shape by next year, especially when 800Mhz turns on but this is really bad timing. They should have waited before announcing this. | |
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Absolutely correct...I wasn't thrilled about "Unlimited Data for Life". That does not have much value. The value is the speed at which you can download and the price/selection of the phone devices available for purchase. How about Sprint having a device upgrade installment plan with 1 year upgrades and a larger LTE footprint. | |
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Re: Nicesaid by Solomon :Absolutely correct...I wasn't thrilled about "Unlimited Data for Life". That does not have much value. The value is the speed at which you can download and the price/selection of the phone devices available for purchase. How about Sprint having a device upgrade installment plan with 1 year upgrades and a larger LTE footprint.
Unlimited most definitely has measurable value. I use up to 10GB/month on Sprint. At $10+ per extra GB over cap on other carriers, I'm saving at least $50/month compared to ATT/VZW. Smartphone apps don't need more than a few Mbps. It's latency that matters more to app/web performance after a few Mbps. I'll take unlimited 5Mbps over 1Gbps with a 5GB/month cap. | |
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said by 88615298:Then what's the point of unlimited data?
Because it's smart phone that uses data.. duh! You want a modem first, get a modem first. Kind of a silly question. | |
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Its to nice to offer unlimited speeds when all you can get in certain areas is .1mb down and .3mb up. They are using Cablevision lightpath for backbone here and fibers are run but i guess its taking a while to connect equipment. I know one site fibers been installed for 8 months and no change yet. | |
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I stream videos from my media server at home. I currently only do it on wifi as otherwise I would eat through my bandwidth cap half way through the month. Additionally I could do usenet/bittorrent on my phone and DLL large things from the play store without having to worry about eating away at my data. | |
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Android has plenty of torrent apps that can be used to download Linux ISOs. I wonder if their system will 'detect tethering' if you use said apps? | |
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Re: Nicesaid by zefie:Android has plenty of torrent apps that can be used to download Linux ISOs. I wonder if their system will 'detect tethering' if you use said apps?
It doesn't detect it. Ditto with unofficial tethering apps. It thinks its all local usage. | |
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said by brianiscool:So, I can plug up my PC and download Linux distro's all day. Then stream netflix on my top box. Also have my whole household tap in. I hope we reach 500GB - 2TB a month. Lets see how long this lifetime data plan works out.
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If the Japanese fully invest in this company to compete with the coverage area of Verizon and AT&T then perhaps it will finally cause the currently outrageous data fees to come down. I live in a slightly more rural area (30 minutes from a major metropolis) with only 3G Sprint coverage but 4G Verizon and AT&T. I'm lucky enough to be grandfathered in on a Verizon unlimited data plan (phone and mobile hotspot) which I will never give up. | |
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said by brianiscool:So, I can plug up my PC and download Linux distro's all day. Then stream netflix on my top box. Also have my whole household tap in. I hope we reach 500GB - 2TB a month. Lets see how long this lifetime data plan works out.
Using the connection more is not costing them any more money. This is just a gimmick as these providers cant keep pretending they need to charge by the byte forever. Either providers will all go back to unlimited or the government will force them to due to lack of competition or collusion between providers. The future is unlimited usage anyways. --
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Re: Nicesaid by r81984:said by brianiscool:So, I can plug up my PC and download Linux distro's all day. Then stream netflix on my top box. Also have my whole household tap in. I hope we reach 500GB - 2TB a month. Lets see how long this lifetime data plan works out.
Using the connection more is not costing them any more money. This is just a gimmick as these providers cant keep pretending they need to charge by the byte forever. Either providers will all go back to unlimited or the government will force them to due to lack of competition or collusion between providers. The future is unlimited usage anyways. incorrect. we arent talking about wired broadband. there is only so much spectrum that can be used by any given provider. cellular does not support unlimited usage with the explosion of data usage. --
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Weasel words??The Sprint Unlimited Guarantee guarantees customers unlimited talk (calls to any wireline or mobile phone), text and data while on the Sprint network, for the life of the line of service. What does "for the life of the line of service" really mean? To a lawyer that is? Can Sprint declare that the "line of service" of unlimited data has reached its end of life? Sounds like a chance for a class action lawsuit if they ever revoke the offer. Oops - class action lawsuits are forbidden in TOS contract. --
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Fine by meSprint has been rolling out LTE in my neck of the woods like crazy and here their LTE is way faster than my old AT&T LTE service.
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Corp DiscountsI had to ask. This now mirrors what Verizon is doing with Share Everything.
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Corporate discounts will apply to the Unlimited, My Way plan.
With the Unlimited, My Way plan, we discount the monthly data charge for each line on your plan, rather than the primary rate plan.
The new strategy of discounts applies towards only the data options is consistent with Sprint’s existing strategy to not discount unlimited minute plans. It also aligns with competitors’ current discount structure which eases comparisons across carriers.
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i'm sure they're in a rush to go from a prepaid unlimited plan to a post paid plan costing more than DOUBLE the price... haha.. the postpaid business model is dying and sprint or any other carrier has not figured out how to save it
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Re: I'm waiting for some smart company to offer...Tunnel over SSH to the overseas location of your choice. Problem solved, unless you're a really big target. | |
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Re: I'm waiting for some smart company to offer...said by iansltx:Tunnel over SSH to the overseas location of your choice. Problem solved, unless you're a really big target. I know a million ways to do it, but I meant for the average consumer, something seamless with guaranteed security. No fuss, no muss, just use it. --
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2013-Jul-11 10:19 pm
Great if you can get data to transferHaving just left Sprint for Verizon, I can tell you that whatever Sprint is offering isn't worth the trouble.
They still don't offer 4G where I live and its not like I live in the boonies. And, if you could somehow get a steady signal, the download speeds were less than 50kb/s.
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People will complainIncluding me. I don't need unlimited voice.
That said, let me address a few things people whine about:
First, wireless networks are shared networks. There's a reason no carrier offers unlimited data card data anymore: connections are now fast enough to comfortably replace a landline connection...as long as people aren't consistently treating the connection like a landline connection. You're basically spreading a DOCSIS 1.1 cable system over a cell site sector worth of population. So you limit the screen size on which unlimited data is allowed so that people's average data usage will be low enough not to bring down the entire network. Which still happens, even in areas that "better" carriers call their home turf (e.g. AT&T in Austin). Sprint can afford to offer more average data per customer, but they can't afford to let you pull 10 Mbps all day long on a tower in the middle of town, unless you help them plop down a BRS/EBS carrier or two in that area. Which costs more than $80/mo minus Samsung, Apple or HTC's cut of $20 or so.
Second, if your experience with Sprint is slow, unreliable data service, you're most likely either using their un-upgraded network or are in an area where upgrades aren't yet complete. I'm in an area that has gone from low data speeds to the point of unreliability to high, pretty consistent data speeds except for the one area that is a dead zone for pretty much everyone and the one area right under an un-upgraded tower. And, unlike Verizon's 700MHz deployment (though Verizon is filling in some gaps), Sprint has a couple more (quick) overlays to make on its network on the radar, which will boost speeds and reliability further. You'll need a newer phone than what's currently available, but Verizon has only two or three phones that support AWS LTE.
If you want to whine about someone, whine about how their service drops to EDGE as soon as you can't see a building...or maybe if you're too deep in a building. And they don't have the spectrum to change the latter, nor any plans to change the former. | |
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Re: People will complainsaid by iansltx:You'll need a newer phone than what's currently available, but Verizon has only two or three phones that support AWS LTE.
2 phones RIGHT NOW. Hell AWS LTE won't even be activated for several more months. And that's just in a few areas. Starting early next year ALL new smartphones sold will have to support AWS LTE. | |
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They have iPhoneBut I like Verizon better as they have a larger network and they have LTE. Also better signal strength as well.
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Re: Wow, Karlsaid by DarnellP: quote:
You might be able to make more money than you'd save under these plans running an office pool on the exact date Sprint becomes like AT&T and Verizon and kills the unlimited data option entirely.
Still beating this drum. How many years have you been predicting the end of Sprint's unlimited data? I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices that he never misses an opportunity to take that jab. Still hasn't happened, but he keeps guaranteeing that it will. --
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Re: Too slow to caresaid by kmcmurtrie:the connection dropping, the phone getting very hot, or the phone crashing.
That sounds like a problem with the phone itself and not the network. My phone does this sometimes and needs a reboot to fix it. I am always surprised what a reboot does to the phone and data speeds. I have to wonder how many issues are caused by the phone / software and not the network like people instantly try to blame. --
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