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The UK Officially Declares War On...Porn
by Karl Bode 09:05AM Monday Jul 22 2013 Tipped by Jon See Profile
As we've been covering, the UK has been gearing up toward making porn filters enabled by default on every broadband connection, in the process ignoring the fact that such filters are usually easily bypassed, often filter completely unrelated content, and open the door to the filtering of any and all content the government doesn't like. Not to be held back by facts, UK Prime Minister David Cameron today officially launched the government's war on porn, informing everyone in the country they need to opt in in order to be able to view the "corroding influence" of such content.

While children are used as the PR front of the effort (won't you please think of them?), the filtering of content is something desired by the entertainment industry as well as people on certain political fronts. ISPs have been resistant to the idea, while many argue the issue of porn isn't one for technology companies to "fix". Meanwhile, UK leaders are amusingly optimistic that the filters won't be easily bypassed.

"Once those filters are installed, it should not be the case that technically literate children can just flick the filters off at the click of a mouse without anyone knowing," insists the government. "So we have agreed with industry that those filters can only be changed by the account holder, who has to be an adult. So an adult has to be engaged in the decisions."

What could go wrong?

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GlennAllen
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Poor guy

I can't help but feel sorry for someone who seems to spend almost all of his time thinking about porn. What a pitiful life he must lead.

Transmaster
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Re: Poor guy

Click for full size
OH NO!!!!! no pictures of naked dogs!!!!!! horrors oh the humanity!!!!!

Boricua
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Sacramuerto

Re: Poor guy

My eyes hurt just looking at them.
xenophon

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Re: Poor guy

Whatever view on porn, criminalizing 'use' or 'access' is where it becomes complicated.

badtrip
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Oh no, sex!

OMG, the one thing that has kept our planet brimming with life is going to corrupt us all!

anonphoneuse

@comcast.net

how to block

so will the ISPs also be blocking proxies, VPNs and SSH tunnels to stop children from bypassing the filters?

the nightmare i see ahead is that a basic ISP connection will be highly filtered with limited port and protocol support. if you want more flexibility to run any traffic through the IP pipe you will have to subscribe to a special 'unrestricted' connection at a much higher price.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

dont forget even outside dns servers bypass network based filters ! with so many open proxies all over the world and any literate kid can bypass them.
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ArrayList
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Re: how to block

outside dns requests are very easy to block/redirect/hijack.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

secure dns is not that easy to break. You just move on to one of the next on the list. Even if they block them all, you just point at a further upstream dns server.
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ArrayList
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Re: how to block

you capture all packets that are using port 53 udp, redirect those requests to your own dns. the isp doesn't have to modify the zones at all. they can simply redirect the destination of the packet.
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BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

not so easy with secure dns, it is designed to prevent this

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Nam···gorithms

ArrayList
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Re: how to block

»www.dnsleaktest.com/what-is-tran···roxy.php

anything short of a vpn will not prevent this.
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BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

It does stop it that's why secure dns is active. The hash can't be faked yet.
Rekrul

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said by BosstonesOwn:

dont forget even outside dns servers bypass network based filters ! with so many open proxies all over the world and any literate kid can bypass them.

Have you ever actually tried to use an open proxy?

If you mean the web-based ones that promise anonymous browsing, they fail on almost any site that uses javascript, even when you uncheck the "Remove Scripts" options.

If you mean proxy servers where you enter the IP address and port number into the client's proxy setup, you spend more time looking for a working one than you do actually using it. Even then it usually fails for whatever purpose you originally wanted it for.

Maybe I'm just dumb, but not too long ago I tried to find a UK proxy to view a video on a UK TV site that was blocked for anyone not in the UK. I wasn't able to find a singe proxy (web based or direct) that would allow me to view the video.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

I have used them, I often use them to view netflix content that is only available outside the us

There are lists of them available on the interwebs.
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Rekrul

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Re: how to block

said by BosstonesOwn:

I have used them, I often use them to view netflix content that is only available outside the us

There are lists of them available on the interwebs.

I've seen the lists. I've attempted to use them to get around the limitations on cyberlocker sites that only let you download one file every two hours or whatever.

Typically, it goes like this;

1. Find open proxy list.

2. Copy first IP/port numbers into Firefox.

3. Attempt to load page.

4. Give up after about a minute of no progress.

5. Repeat steps 2-4 about a dozen times.

6. Find one where the page finally loads (taking about 30-45 seconds to do so)

7. Realize that the captcha doesn't work and you have no way to initiate the download.

8. Repeat steps 2-7 at least 3 times. (note that step 5 applies in each repetition)

9. Finally find one where the captcha works, start the download.

10. Cancel the download after you see that you're getting 2K/s and the download is going to take 12 hours to finish.

11. Repeat steps 2-10 at least 3 times. (note that steps 5 & 8 apply in each repetition)

12. Give up when you realize that the time limit on the site expired half an hour ago and you can just download the file without using a proxy.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: how to block

haha, thats how it used to be for me, now I keep up on the lists of open proxies for a specific country. It helps knowing that the country in question has fast connections and usually not congested.
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Rekrul

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Re: how to block

said by BosstonesOwn:

haha, thats how it used to be for me, now I keep up on the lists of open proxies for a specific country. It helps knowing that the country in question has fast connections and usually not congested.

I've tried proxies from pretty much every country. Strangely, the ones that seem to work the best for me are the ones in the middle east. I guess I'm probably now considered a terrorism suspect for making a web connection to a middle east IP address.
Goldman

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Maumelle, AR

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The war on...

...poverty.
...crime.
...drugs.
...illiteracy.
...terrorism.

Add another failed war to the list.

How about a war on government waste and stupidity?
BosstonesOwn

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Re: The war on...

Where could we start ? That is a war no one will ever win !

ArrayList
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Re: The war on...

let's just have world war 3 and get it done with
BosstonesOwn

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Re: The war on...

You don't think they are going to try to do that if it means they can stay in power ?

Nasty

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Some say your toes
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Jon
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Timing

Hmm. Wonder if they're hoping this announcement will get lost in all the "OMG ROYAL BABY!" news.

Knnn

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North Vancouver, BC

Will they learn from Australia

I thought Australia went through this already? How did that work out?

»www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/11···tection/

»www.smh.com.au/news/technology/w···605.html

To work, the filters would need to prevent users from asking search engines "How do I turn off these porn filters?" And then the question "How do I turn off the filters for questions about turning off filters?" And so on, for ever.

LOL; from a guardian newspaper article here:

»www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree···net-porn

LaughingUK

@comcast.net

Re: Will they learn from Australia

Wow ...

Can we say UK version of Prohibition...

Epic FAIL watch sex crimes go up
DanteX

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Parents need to stop being lazy

What is the purpose of these filters other then to make it so parents do not have to baby sit their own kids.

Does the world really need auto filters enabled so you do not accidentally come across something that may offend you? in that case you should live in a bubble

Do not like porn? I have a easy solution do not pay attention to it aND STOP MAKING IT HARDER FOR OTHERS WHO WANT TO ENJOY SOMETHING THAT DOESNT OFFEND THEM BUT OFENDS YOU.
old_wiz_60

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Seriously?

This reminds me of a Dilbet cartoon, where he was striving to write a program to block porn. A friend says, more or less, "You are going to match your programming skills against the hormones of millions of teenagers?" In the background the eyes of a kid testing the program go extremely wide.

So how about we classify some of the crap that the newspapers print as porn? Political speeches, religious rantings about birth control, hate speech, etc?

Jon
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Re: Seriously?

said by old_wiz_60:

So how about we classify some of the crap that the newspapers print as porn? Political speeches, religious rantings about birth control, hate speech, etc?

Or at least offensive.

AlexNYC

join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO

Stupidity!

This is what happens when elected IQ deficient idiots who have no idea how the internet works, try to make laws for the "public's good". They say "BAN PORN" to the ISPs and then don't realize that this is technically impossible the way the world wide web is currently structured. Then everyone laughs at them and life goes on.

totamak
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Los Angeles, CA

It's still "War on Citizens" with a different front...

These political animals, while often technically illiterate, are not as stupid as we think them to be. They generally know bans do not work and that is not an impediment to their goals. Control is their goal, creating a new criminalization industry, new laws to hammer on people. Whether the filters work or not is irrelevant, what matters is the fallout and how to profit from that.

That is why the War on Drugs will not stop despite the fact it's a tremendous drain on the treasury, chews up lives far worse than the worst aspects of illicit drug consumption, utter failure in it's goals of reducing addiction and has laid the path to the installment of a panopticon police state - certain corporations and psychopathic individuals have profited very well from the War on Drugs. That is the goal, to create yet another parasitic industry that demands criminalization in order to exist.

Probitas

@teksavvy.com

Pity the fool

who wastes his time on what someone else is doing in privacy that involves no law breaking. Hey clueless people, you aren't winning brownie points from your deity by forcing your views onto them. In fact, you make yourself look worse because you aren't fixing your own problems.

MJB

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Re: Pity the fool

quick download it all....

like 4+ tb

GlobalMind
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Ooooh FILTERS!

I have a gold colored one in my coffee maker.

Every few years we seem to get some politico spouting off about the dangers, the horrors of porn. Apparently some concerned parent group that's too technically inept to take things into their own hands at home and filter access etc, need the ever present gov't nanny state to rise and save us from ourselves.

All this stuff's been tried before. Filters have gaping holes, or are over effective, filtering out non-porn content just because it can't figure out the difference, and using the pathetic "better safe than sorry" mantra.

Unfortunately this everyone's a suspect mentality is well & truly rooted in the US now as well and I am sure the next turn of the crank we'll see some self proclaimed "conservative" claim we need to shut down the smut again.

Ya know, free speech be damned & all. Just call it obscene and remove the protection.
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