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Dish Wins Again in Fight Over Ad-Skipping DVR
by Karl Bode 06:35PM Wednesday Sep 18 2013
For some time, broadcasters have been suing Dish over their "Hopper" DVR and its ability to automatically skip commercials, broadcasters claiming that such a helpful feature violates their copyrights. The lawsuits have done nothing but make the broadcast industry look anti-consumer, CBS taking this notion to another level when they forced CBS-owned CNET to stop reviewing or giving awards to the technology.

Unfortunately for those broadcasters, the Ninth Court of Appeals ruled against broadcasters last July, clearing declaring that skipping commercials does not violate copyright as they had claimed. Dish today saw another legal win when U.S. District Judge Laura Swain refused to issue an injunction banning Dish from offering the technology.

"This decision is yet another victory for American consumers, and we are proud to have stood by their side in this important fight over the fundamental rights of consumer choice and control," Dish said in a statement issued to the press.


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Wyngs

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reply to BF69

Re: Let the kudos fall where they may

Crap. Commercials have ruined network television, which is one reason I don't watch any more except for a news program now and then. Even during a show, little ads for coming programs popup in the corners and along the bottom of the screen. It's an insult to the actors and the show. There's a heavy, dramatic moment in the show, and suddenly a little dancing clown pops up in the corner doing something funny. Anyone who can put up with that kind of mutilation has a cast-iron brain.

And if they start cramming many more commercials at the beginning of my netflix discs, that I can't zoom past, I'm gonna stop those also.


Skippy25

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reply to BF69

Sorry dude, but if you dont think networks will adjust and still make revenue you are dreaming.


Skippy25

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reply to tshirt

Content creators just need to get more creative.

Times are changing so they can change or die standing in the mud.


CXM_Splicer
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reply to BF69

Re: Networks did it to themselves

Torrents are much easier; commercials already edited out, station logo watermark usually blurred out, crawls get cropped. Any show with any kind of ratings usually hits the web a few hours after airing. With RSS feeds, new shows are automatically downloaded and waiting. Best DVR there is.



newview
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reply to RRedline

said by RRedline:

Advertising has gotten way too disruptive over the years. It is the sole reason that I very rarely watch live TV. I refuse to be subjected to so many interruptions. If they do what you say they will, even more people will stop watching TV. There are other forms of entertainment besides live television.

I don't see ads getting any less ... they just keep piling them on and on and on ... and then they started showing those annoying "bugs" and station identification logos at the bottom of the screen 2-3 years ago which entirely disrupt ANY show or movie that has subtitles. They really do NOT care that they are ruining the viewing of the content.

What we are seeing is greed ... plain and simple.

Part of the cord cutting phenomenon is as much due to these commercial interruptions as it is to the high costs.


r81984
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Re: Let the kudos fall where they may

You can't force people to watch ads.
Dish or DirectTV never skipped 1 ad. Only the end users skipped ads which cannot be stopped.
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Networks did it to themselves

In the 1960s, there were some 9 minutes an hour in commercials. Now it is double that at 18, PLUS product placements...some horribly obnoxious like Fox does (I remember Ford Sync in Fringe...they were beyond lame and actually were disruptive to the flow of the story). Now you see it with Microsoft Surface on a lot of shows such as Under the Dome.

There are so many commercials that some networks like TBS have to run the end credits of one show during the beginning credits of another so you have to watch the first 20-30 seconds of Big Bang in a microscopic window. On other basic cable networks the breaks are so long that you forget what you are watching.

You can only do that to consumers so long before they find a way to avoid it. Just like web ads...if web ads were unobtrusive banners instead of annoying flickering page moving flash powered abominations you wouldn't see some widespread use of ad blocking.

Network dumb-Fs...you did this to yourselves.
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Re: Let the kudos fall where they may

»www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new···y-awards

TV AND FILM STREAMING SERVICE Netflix has won its first two Emmy awards for its original TV series House of Cards.
The Creative Arts Emmy Awards event was held in the US on Sunday, a week ahead of the Primetime Emmy Awards, and it looks like Netflix was the talk of the evening.
Political thriller House of Cards became the first online-only TV show nominated for an Emmy, having scored nine nominations in July, and it has now become the first online-only series to win big at the awards.
Netflix's first win of the night was in the Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series category, with House of Cards besting Downton Abbey, Homeland and Game of Thrones for its stellar cast, which includes Kevin Spacey, Robin Wright, Kate Mara and Corey Stoll.

Try again home boy.


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No. Ads do not pay for the content that I want to watch. The re-transmit fees pay for what I want to watch. If I choose to fast forward over the commercials, its because I could care less about boner pills and that nasty yogurt that is supposed to make my intestines work better.
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said by newview:

But I DO applaud them for fighting this fight.

Careful what you wish for. Ads pay for the content you want to watch, Less ads shown less revenue expect even less quality programming more cheap to produce reality crap. more reruns. More infomercials. more product placement. Wouldn't shock me if there is some kind of permanent banner at the bottom of the screen so you can't skip it. The idea that people are going to skip over ads and there not be negative consequences is naïve.