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| Perpetual motion machine This sounds .. unlikely ..
A modern digital Uri Geller bending virtual spoons for credulous tech reporters can probably go far in this world.
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 | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine I'll believe it when it's obsoleted by newer technology. =) | |
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| | justinAustralian
join:1999-05-28
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kudos:7 | Re: Perpetual motion machine said by HAH:
I'll believe it when it's obsoleted by newer technology. =)
Words to live by. | |
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|  DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | I bet if you share the file, it will actually increase your bandwidth instead of use it up!
Could this be Ginger?
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| |  LD 50
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Milford, NH | Re: Perpetual motion machine I was at Linens N' Things in Bedford, NH a couple weekends ago and saw Dean K. shopping with his tall blond wife. I wanted to go up to him and ask him what isle Ginger was in. My wife convinced me otherwise.
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| | | justinAustralian
join:1999-05-28
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kudos:7 | Re: Perpetual motion machine LMAO - when will new york consumer affairs "polly wants an answer" stick a microphone in his face?  | |
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Milford, NH | Re: Perpetual motion machine I suppose there is not much they can do since he is not taking any "preorders, cash or money order only" for some thing yet unknown.
Bedford, NH though is letting him build a factory in a light-industrial zoned area. I would think they could grill him a little more. They may not want to eff up the chance to have "Made in Bedford" stamped on every ginger produced though.
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| | | This post was a joke right? I have too much respect for DSLR to think that this was put here for any other reason other than to make me fall out my chair wih laughter. | |
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| | justinAustralian
join:1999-05-28
New York, NY
kudos:7 | Re: Perpetual motion machine The news post? The editor will be lashed immediately!
Yes it is kind of there for amusement.. its thanksgiving.. silly season! | |
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PC gaming GAMES
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| Was hoping to trigger a debate and discussion about compression....but I seemed to have failed in that regard.
I will accept my thirty lashes and no gruel.
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| | | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine I think the fact that this particular article delves into compression of unbelievable proportions leads us to snicker and poke fun more than actually discuss the subject matter.
Either way we're having fun | |
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| | | I think Tom from the old Tom & Jerry toons said it best:
DOOOOOOOON'T YOOOOOOOUUU BEEEELIIEEEEVE IIIIIIITT!!!!"
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| | justinAustralian
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kudos:7 | Re: Perpetual motion machine Did Tom talk? I though that only his unseen owners talked, everything was set to music? | |
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| Re: Perpetual motion machine Yeah, Tom has only spoken a few times... and every time was f'king hilarious. That particular one was from the episode with the exploding white mouse. Near the end the mouse explodes and blows up the house... a radio announcer says that the mouse has been identified as harmless, after which Tom raises his head from the rubble and gives that line in this hilarious hollow sounding voice.
BTW: You don't remember him singing "Is you is or is you ain't my baby"?
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Drexel Hill, PA | That was the episode where an experimental white mouse escaped from a lab.. and jerry covered himself in flour to trick tom.
The mouse was apparently very explosive, and could go off at the slightest touch.. Another "I will get my worst enemy to treat me all nice nice" -- That old gag
Somehow, the real mouse wandered into the house, but after tom found out about jerry's tomfoolery.. as proceeded to smack the mouse around.
After the house blew up, and a soot covered tom rose from the ashes.. he said in a echo voice "Don't you believe it"
Long story short (to late.. haha).. He doesn't speak.. he only did that once.. At least in the original cartoon, to the crap on now...
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| | | | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine I think the "Don't you believe it" and this "Is you is" song are the only times. He also managed to slide in a devious "AHA!!" in a few episodes... and the dueling episode when they were doing the 10 paces showdown, the first few numbers he counter off were audible.
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| | | | | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine Actually I recall two other episodes where Tom spoke. One time he was was hanging out with a lady cat and Jerry light his tail on fire. He asked his paramour, "Hey. What's cookin'?" She lady cat replied, "You are."
Another time Tom talked was when he inherited a million dollars, but in order to keep it he had to be nice to Jerry (or rather not hurt a living thing, including a mouse). Of course he blows it and starts smacking Jerry with a newspaper. While doing so he stops to say, "Gee. I just gave up a million dollars. BUT I'M HAPPY!" or something like that. I think I might have heard Tom sing in another cartoon, but I can't confirm that.
A little bit of trivia. The "Don't you believe it" quote is actually from a radio show or something similar in that era. Kinda like when people kept saying Wendy's "Where's the beef?" or Arnold Schwarzenegger's "I'll be back" in the 80's. Cool. Neh? | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine quote:
He asked his paramour, "Hey. What's cookin'?" She lady cat replied, "You are."
I forgot about that one, that was the Zoot Suit episode. I remember the other one too, haven't seen that one in a while.
The only other singing episode was when he was a cowboy singing "If you're ever down in Texas look me up", but that was really a record playing that time (remember Jerry screwing around with the record speeds).
Yeah, we've taking this off topic... but our side discussion is no more ridiculous than the claim presented in the original posting. 
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|  honzik
join:2001-04-20
San Jose, CA | Do you know how you can tell that this is a hoax? He's
got a Public Relations Representative. Here's the spin:
Hyperbole: "He's a MacGuyver"
Victimhood: "[He] compares him to the often mis-understood astronomer Galileo."
The next thing you know, he'll start building cars that
run on water, that is, if the oil industry doesn't prevent
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| | | | Re: Perpetual motion machine The easy way to tell is to do the math. There is just no way to do that at dvd quality with no visibe loss. 24 frames per second 7200 seconds in a 2 hour movie. 172800 frames. 30mb = 31457280 byte.
31457280/172800 yeilds 182.0444444-> Bytes per frame. Does this include sound too?
For his next feat this guy is going to to compress 10^10^10 bytes down to a floppy disk.
10^10^10= 10^(10^10)=10^10000000000= 10 with enough little zeros behind it to circle the earth. | |
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| | | | water cars uhm actually there were working designs for cars that only used some fuel to start up the engine and ran off WATER after that. But the oil industry bought out the designs and that was the end of it. | |
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| | | | | Re: water cars said by GodSpeed:
uhm actually there were working designs for cars that only used some fuel to start up the engine and ran off WATER after that.
I can't think of a way that a spontaneous chemical reaction using only water could release energy.
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| | | |  babachersleep apnea sucksPremium,MVM
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Greenwood, IN
kudos:1 | Re: water cars Using electricity, separate the oxygen atoms from the hydrogen atoms, and store them separately. You'll get plenty of energy release when they're recombined
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| abrody
join:2000-07-20
Silver Spring, MD | Check
»www.apple.com/trailers/wb/analyzethis.html
on any G3 or G4 Mac (iBook and iMac included). 2 minutes in 6 MB. That could be 216 minutes (3 hours 26 minutes) in 650MB (the size of a CD-R). Imagine how much you could fit on a DVD with that, 1599 minutes, or 26 hours. Just takes a Mac with a G3/233 or higher processor. All thanks to Sorenson compression. And with Quicktime Pro ($30), it can be displayed fullscreen without so much as a flinch in image quality. It isn't the audio quality of DVD, but it is sharp enough that it passes VHS. | |
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RoundboyPremium
join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA | maybe true... But who wants to watch a dvd movie in a 10x10 pixel screen, in black and white, with no sound... and at 2 frames per second.
It will probably turn out that he copied a text file with the name hannibal.dvd onto a cdrom...
Shazbut! I have simply hit 'new folder' and named it the dvd movie file name! | |
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| RoundboyPremium
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Drexel Hill, PA | Re: hmmm God.. I love spinal tap.... | |
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| | | | Re: hmmm Get the DVD if you don't already have it. Tons of deleted scenes and loads of "Tap" humor above and beyond the original movie. | |
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| | | RoundboyPremium
join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA | Re: hmmm Its in my amazon.com shopping cart now.. just waiting to collect a bunch of things together to save on shipping! | |
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| | Not quite the same, but... There was a post over in one of the DSLR sections (I believe it was a UT area) hosting a 64k graphics and sound demonstration file which through both compression and other things, purported itself to contain over 18G of information (a compression ratio of 30000:1.)
While I don't believe quite this level of compression was achieved in that example, due to the repetition of graphical tiles, I do believe there was some significant compression going on there beyond what you can achieve through .ZIP or the like. The file also originated in Europe. I'm not sure where the thread with the link to it was, however... Perhaps some astute observer with a good memory can refresh us. | |
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|  Irenic
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Montreal, QC | Re: Not quite the same, but... The 64k graphics demo was not compression in a traditional sense that could be used for video, etc. . The textures were created on the fly during the "loading" stage of the program by an algorithm. | |
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Iscandar | A hoax??? What a bummer! Man, you gotta be kidding me! Next, you'll probably tell us that the whole e-mail measuring thing that Microsoft was doing where you could win a trip to Disney Word was a hoax, too. I must've sent that e-mail to all 12,000 of my buddies on AOL.
By the way, I'm still waiting for my prize for that, too!
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| | yea right it wasnt 30000:1 compression it was 300:1 and its someone in germany that post is a sham lol | |
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| | | Re: yea right Actually, I downloaded the program and ran the entire thing. They run through all their numbers at the end of the demo and tally up to the 19.2 (or it might have actually been 1.92) gigabytes of information, not 19.2 million as you state here. Whether or not they managed to pull off the compression they stated, it was far more than a 300:1 ratio.
By the way, last time I checked, Germany is part of Europe. | |
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 DudeWhat Happens When I Do ThisPremium
join:2000-11-20
Chicago, IL | i will...... i will believe it when i see it | |
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| | 20 dvds on one cdrom Yeah right...
And Bill Gates will finally make an OS that really works lol.... | |
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| | | windows Windows 2000 professional is the best of all the current windows series.
I have never gotten the blue screen or anything big like that. | |
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| | | | Re: windows Yeah, the more recent Windows systems have made huge leaps forward over Windows 98, with the exception of ME. | |
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join:2001-11-22
Chicago, IL | Denying Futures Cant Prevent Them
Everything that can be invented, has. (1899)
Who would ever want a computer in their house?
Why would you ever need more than 2 MB of memory?
How could you ever fit 43 hours of video on a CD?
We've compressed time so much that the future approaches faster than the present can happen. In 1890, most people thought that people could only fly by climbing something tall and jumping off. They thought that the horse and locomotive were the best transportation mankind could ever come up with. Twenty-five years later, cars were pushing horses back to the fields, and the fields were being paved over for places to land planes.
In 1975, you did not see a computer unless you went to school for a looong time, were very rich, or worked for the government. If you wanted to send a message, you wrote or typed it out and expected that it would be received in a few days. Every gas station attendant pumped the fuel, did your oil, AND washed the windshield.... EVERY time you went there. Twenty-five years later, the guy inside the plexiglass cube who turns on the pump for you knows more about computers than you ever will, and he can talk to his friends in Mongolia as fast as he can type for 50 cents a day.
These seem to be similar examples of how fast the world changes, but in fact, they are different. In 1915, the plane and car were still pretty much iffy things at best. The world had not fundamentally changed as far as most folks were concerned. In 2000, the world was radically different for most people than it was in 1975. This points toward the idea that the pace of change is increasing for a larger number of people every decade.
The way that the two examples are similar is that they both show an exponentially greater rate of change than that of the whole of human history. Most people alive in 885 hoped that their village wasn't raided, plagued, burnt, invaded or otherwise depopulated more than a dozen times in the next twenty-five years. The average person in 1510 hoped that their master or landlord didn't rough up their two surviving children as much in 1535. A person alive ten thousand years ago hoped for good rain and hunting when his grandchildren were born twenty-five years hence. Not much changed year-to-year for the majority of people.
What's the lesson? Consider this:
In 1985, i used a floppy disk that WAS floppy to save a few pictures and letters. In 1990, i used a smaller floppy to save a book and a photo album. In 1995, i could get a CD with either an hour of music or an encyclopedia. In 2000, i burnt 70 hours of old radio broadcasts to a CD, and if i had enough cash i could record 3 hours of damn fine video to an optical disc. Don't fool yourself, that is NOT a linear progression!
At this rate, i would be SHOCKED if no one was able to store 20 movies on a CD-R by 2005. After all, TV was invented decades before it was widely available, VCRs took about 9 years from invention to ubiquity. CDs took less than that. Perhaps the guy in the article is the leading edge of the "killer app" that solidifies the CD-R format and sells billions of personal video players by 2005. You gotta figure that someone, somewhere, has that sort of compression scheme in their head. Judging by recent trends, now is about the right time for that someone to invent it. Perhaps we are learning about it so soon because everything else is faster nowadays too.
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| | | Re: Denying Futures Cant Prevent Them Thanks for posting your term paper. But seriously, I, as well as almost everyone here on DSLr, would agree with you. The amount of progress in the last quarter century has been amazing. I am just waiting for the Star Trek holodecks and nanobots. | |
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