TAZ join:2014-01-03 Tucson, AZ
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TAZ
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2014-Apr-3 10:34 am
He's right!$15/GB LTE services are absolutely competition to Comcast... because Comcast plans to charge that same amount too!
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Re: He's right!There is the potential for wireless to be competition but the corporatists have hijacked that and made it common to charge outrageous amounts for bandwidth. What is happening now is that the wired ISPs want to try to increase wired internet prices to match it. | |
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Ubee E31U2V1 (Software) pfSense Netgear WNR3500L
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competitionwireless anything has never been a competitor for wireline services, ever, and anyone who falls for this asshats crap deserves what they get. NBCU/Comcast and TimeWarner is a bad merger, and instead we need to go the other way, or the FCC needs to get some balls back(fat chance tho) and reclassify ISPs so they can be regulated, which would force them to rent line space to smaller carriers at a reasonable rate, which would bring more competition. | |
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shmerl
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2014-Apr-3 11:34 am
Re: competitionYea, Comcast should be split - media separately, telecom separately. Not merged more. | |
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| cork1958Cork Premium Member join:2000-02-26
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to Chubbysumo
Absolutely correct! "he's yet to hear any "rational, knowledgeable voices" objecting to his company's planned $45 billion acquisition of Time Warner Cable" His spewing forth of that crap is supposed to be rational and knowledgeable? Not that I want Charter to get any part of them either as they already don't know what they're doing half the time! | |
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ArkhmAsylmEvrythng I need isn't really what I want Premium Member join:2006-02-22 Saint Paul, MN |
Renovating the dictionary- Rational - Knowledgeable: Comcast code words for "People we pay off". | |
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newviewEx .. Ex .. Exactly Premium Member join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD |
newview
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2014-Apr-3 10:49 am
Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumersquote: Both Comcast and Time Warner Cable rank very poorly with consumers when it comes to value for the money and have earned low ratings for customer support, said Delara Derakhshani. A merger combining these two huge companies would give Comcast even greater control over the cable and broadband Internet markets, leading to higher prices, fewer choices, and worse customer service for consumers.
quote: In an industry with a terrible track record with consumers, these two companies are among the worst when it comes to providing good value for the money, said Derakhshani. The FCC and Department of Justice should stand with consumers and oppose this merger.
» consumersunion.org/news/ ··· -survey/Say NO to the Comcast / Time Warner Cable Mafia Merger » bit.ly/1gB0ULh | |
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| dfxmatt join:2007-08-21 Crystal Lake, IL |
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumersEven history confirms it would be bad for customers, so yeah. | |
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YDC
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2014-Apr-3 11:22 am
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumersOut with our new FCC leader if he let's this happen! We need to classify and regulate and make it 1996 all over again, and fast! | |
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Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumersThe bad thing about the 1996 law was that it allowed then-local phone co's like SBC to get into the long distance business. The trade-off was they were supposed to open their local networks to competition in exchange.
Of course competition in local phone service didn't really happen at the time (not until the VoIP revolution anyway) so basically the SBC's of the world got what they wanted and didn't really have to give up anything in return. | |
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| | | | tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA |
tshirt
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2014-Apr-3 12:01 pm
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumerssaid by Nameless1:Of course competition in local phone service didn't really happen at the time. It happened enough to stop major investment by the incumbent. In return for adding many players to the mix (including wireless and voip competition) we got to watch our once unmatched telephone system crumble in disrepair to the point that it is now the endangered specie. And all those players? most went bankrupt or merged repeatedly in an attempt to get back enough market share to remain viable. The level of supervision/regulation you suggest almost requires a single entity per area because the cost of such regulation creates too large a disparity between the regulated and unregulated players, with the greater burden falling on the line owners. | |
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| | | | | BonezXBasement Dweller Premium Member join:2004-04-13 Canada |
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2014-Apr-3 11:07 pm
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumerssaid by tshirt:The level of supervision/regulation you suggest almost requires a single entity per area because the cost of such regulation creates too large a disparity between the regulated and unregulated players, with the greater burden falling on the line owners. the companies themselves shouldn't be the line owners, since that seems to be what the common issue is, why shouldn't the cities or towns be the line owners, and the companies rent them, you would get that open market model(where the company doesn't also own the road), and the infrastructure is not just one of their assets they can leverage against competition to push them out. it's not like the companies don't already get handed gov money for upgrades that never happen, and when they do they lock out competition as much as they can get away with. | |
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2014-Apr-4 9:38 am
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumerssaid by BonezX:it's not like the companies don't already get handed gov money for upgrades that never happen, and when they do they lock out competition as much as they can get away with. Telcos get subsidies, Cableco's (who actually own a more useful plant) do not. Everyone like the idea of a shared single line, the question is how to pay for it/get there. And who should control/run it. You would have to look far here to see "NOT THE GOV'T!!!"(to which I would agree) but many of the same faces would say "NOT CORP. A!!!" either. But these thing can't just organize, build, and run themselves. A lot of things to be decide before "One line, to serve them all" gets going. | |
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BonezX
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2014-Apr-4 5:38 pm
Re: Consumer Reports says Comcast/TWC merger would be BAD for consumersRealistically the infrastructure should be owned by the town, and funded directly by the people using it(none of this big government stuff, just small towns that are more often then not undeserved and over charged).
and on a national level, the town/city interlink within the state would be by the state, and state to state interlinks would be federal, build out to the next biggest.
but you would need to kick just about everyone out of your government and replace them with people that work in the industry they are overseeing vs lawyers, politicians, and lobbyists who don't even understand how the internet works. | |
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What is Cohen smoking?Whatever it is, he should share because you can't even get it in Colorado. | |
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Re: What is Cohen smoking?Maybe he is burning the green backs that Comcast is giving him and taking in the "essence" from it. | |
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Probitas
Anon
2014-Apr-3 12:00 pm
Yes, YesWe all know companies only want to make a reasonable profit, they aren't out to cheat anyone, or be ruthless in their pursuit of profits. It's just good business. | |
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seamore
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2014-Apr-3 12:56 pm
Re: Yes, Yessaid by Probitas :We all know companies only want to make a reasonable profit, they aren't out to cheat anyone, or be ruthless in their pursuit of profits. It's just good business. LOL. good one. | |
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Tief Premium Member join:2007-11-16 Lewisville, TX |
Tief
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2014-Apr-3 12:03 pm
Consumers win through competitionWhat will help consumers out the most is a true open, capitalist market in which competition thrives. Then, Comcast and Time-Warner would be forced to give a better quality service at a good price - or file for bankruptcy.
The kind of deals that prevent competition are major reasons people think our (U.S.) national government is controlled by big business. And, it is, to a large degree - the proof is in what the politicians do, not what they say. | |
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jac74
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2014-Apr-3 12:09 pm
Re: Consumers win through competitionSimply put, Cohen is a Douche Nozzle! period..... | |
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ropeguru Premium Member join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA |
ropeguru
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2014-Apr-3 12:10 pm
Lobbyists....The biggest liars in the world, right up there with lawyers and politicians. | |
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2014-Apr-7 12:45 am
Re: Lobbyists....Aren't lobbyists lawyers? | |
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ropeguru
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2014-Apr-8 7:18 am
Re: Lobbyists....Most, but not all.. | |
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Packeteers Premium Member join:2005-06-18 Forest Hills, NY Asus RT-AC3100 (Software) Asuswrt-Merlin
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debate class 1.01once you know you can't win the argument, all you have left is to chastise your opponent. in college - you'd lose the debate completely. in real life - loud paid shills always seem to win. it occurs to me that if some alien being landed on our planet, and we explained to him what determines why companies merge, how the few hundred voting shareholders enjoy a financial windfall while tens of thousands of employees who's jobs come under threat, and tens of millions of customers who's service will get billed for more have no say in the merger decision whatsoever, my guess is that superior being from another world would wipe us all out as lunatics. | |
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YDC
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2014-Apr-3 12:27 pm
Re: debate class 1.01And, of course, that nice donation to your cause from hundreds of non-profit agencies that do not exist other than to dole out funds on demand. This is the only version of on-demand that is succeeding.. lol | |
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WOW...Some people just don't get it.
Wireless broadband doesn't compare to wired. END OF STORY.
Less providers, means less competition - even if they don't directly compete. | |
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EricthornIt only hurts when I laugh Premium Member join:2001-08-10 Paragould, AR |
Mega MergersThese are never a good idea, no matter how any shill's swing it. Nothing will happen here except a bunch of regular joe's losing their jobs while some high level execs and stock jocks make a few bucks.
Oh, and wireless is 'competition'? Obviously he's pandering to the 80% of the country who have no idea what 'broadband' is , and to 100% of our idiotic government who are absolutely fucking clueless or paid off. | |
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| newviewEx .. Ex .. Exactly Premium Member join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD |
newview
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2014-Apr-3 2:18 pm
Re: Mega Mergerssaid by Ericthorn:Obviously he's pandering to the 80% of the country who have no idea what 'broadband' is , and to 100% of our idiotic government who are absolutely fucking clueless or paid off. Comcast's lobbying team includes six former government officials. Former Senator Don Nickles, former Representative Robert Walker, former Senator Blanche Lincoln, former Representative Ron Klink, David Cohen of Comcast and former F.C.C. member Meredith Attwell Baker. 15 of the 18 members of the Senate House Judiciary Committee, as well as 32 members of the 39 members of the House Judiciary Committee have had their campaign coffers stuffed with Comcast money. Say NO to the Comcast / Time Warner Cable Mafia Merger » bit.ly/1gB0ULh | |
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Anon
2014-Apr-3 2:21 pm
I think he knows he's full of it too."wireless is certainly beginning to be an effective competitor and substitute for at least many uses of broadband, Cohen said."
The phrase at least with the word many is a really bad way to speak. It shows you know you are talking about a small amount of applications with regard to broadband, not a large amount as he's attempting to portray. Trying really hard to not get caught in a bald faced lie. | |
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Pretty damn funny..."Comcast: Nobody 'Rational, Knowledgeable' Opposes Our Merger"
There must be a lot of irrational, ignorant people out there.
I'm not a Comcast or Time Warner customer and I don't like the merger. There's a point where a company is too big.
Comcast is one of them. And I'm pro-business too ! | |
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Re: Pretty damn funny...I wonder if I could sue for slander since they are making the implication that most of us are idiots. | |
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JephMan
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2014-Apr-3 3:02 pm
Other CompaniesNothing is stopping other providers from trying to compete in these markets. | |
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| gar187erI DID this for a living join:2006-06-24 Seattle, WA |
Re: Other Companiessadly nobody realizes this. it just costs wayyyy to much to build a new network out. | |
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63475675 (banned)
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2014-Apr-3 3:54 pm
Those words....Mr. Cohen is yet another typical arrogant, point man being paid a small fortune to bribe our FCC, Congress, and Senate by Comcast to do something that is CLEARLY NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
This should fall under the Racketeering Laws like RICO.
Mr. Cohen, like the famous Monopoly board game chance card says: "Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200." | |
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CosmicDebriStill looking for intelligent life join:2001-09-01 Lake City, FL
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Who actually believes what a lobbyist says?They are PAID to say things, and they say nothing they haven't been PAID to say. So how can it be taken seriously? It's just a form of advertising, except it goes straight to the people who are supposed to make informed decisions.
And basically what this Cohen is saying is everyone (except Comcast and Time Warner) are irrational and stupid...... someone should take offense at that. I know I do. | |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16 Premium Member join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR |
NOYB
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2014-Apr-3 4:53 pm
I'm Offended "Comcast: Nobody 'Rational, Knowledgeable' Opposes Our Merger"
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vdiv
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2014-Apr-3 10:30 pm
Re: I'm OffendedConsider who it came from. Instead of being offended we should wear it as a badge of honor, as that guy has none. | |
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MxxCon
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2014-Apr-3 5:23 pm
Hyperbole much?Mr. Cohen, and I say to you that I'm yet to see a single pedophile that opposes this merger. What does that make you? | |
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I'm for the mergerMost of the people against the merger have nothing to gain or loose if this merger goes through, they are not twc or Comcast subscribers.
In my case as a TWC subscriber I have more to gain than loose. 1. I will loose the uncapped status. 2. I will gain with better TV hardware. 3. I will gain with faster internet speeds. 4. I will gain with a company that is bullish on new technology. 5. Probably I will be paying the same but getting more.
Overall my impression is that I will be better off with Comcast than with TWC. I hope this deal gets approved. | |
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