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1/3 Of Verizon Postpaid Subs Now on Shared Data Plans
More Devices Connected to LTE, More Money Made
by Karl Bode 04:41PM Friday May 24 2013
Last summer Verizon introduced their new shared data plans for contract customers, which provide users with unlimited text and voice, but imposed low caps and steep overages on data and per device connection fees to make up for it. A little less than a year later and Verizon now says that about one third of their postpaid customers now use the shared data plans -- or about 30% of the company's 93.2 million postpaid contract customers.

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Verizon's CFO Fran Shammo this month stated Verizon is absolutely thrilled with the plans, since they nudge users to connect more devices, and thereby use more overall data:
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Reiterating what he has said at previous investor conferences, Shammo noted that as more people adopt shared data plans, in general they add more devices, such as mobile hotspots and tablets. Then, he said, more consumers will use more data, which will generate more revenue for Verizon Wirelesses, since Share Everything plans are built around usage-based pricing for LTE data.
Shared data plans and AT&T and Verizon's quiet war on unlimited wireless data plans have had their critics, who worry that the usage allotments will shrink as the overage fees soar. However, a J.D. Power and Associates study from earlier this year suggested that shared data customers are actually more satisfied -- in part because that, for now, they're saving money over previous plans.

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patt2k

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Caps

I hope Verizon will do another promo when they did double data promo back when I was on regular plan 4gb for same price of 2.

I would imagine with shared plans for same amount I pay 110$ / 12 gb I would get 14. That would make me stay with vzw , I have 6 lines otherwise T-Mobile it is.
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AnonMe

@comcastbusiness.net

The other part of the story

What I'd like to see is gross profit and net profit listed out pre-shared data plans, and post shared data plans, for both aggregate VZW company-wide, and per line.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

fools

keep getting ripped off for by the byte data and Verizon will keep selling it that way

spewak
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Re: fools

said by tmc8080:

keep getting ripped off for by the byte data and Verizon will keep selling it that way

Hahaha! My sentiments exactly. It's just like fishin' for Verizon. Shootin' ducks in a pond!

FFH
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said by tmc8080:

keep getting ripped off for by the byte data and Verizon will keep selling it that way

Of course they will( and should )as video over cell wireless can easily overload the infrastructure. The only way to fund further expansions is to charge the heavy video users more and more and more.
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The Limit
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Re: fools

Or, you know, cut people off after they have gone over the limit. If Verizon really cared about overloading the infrastructure...

pende_tim
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Re: fools

Or drop them from the "precious" 4G back to 3G with the unwashed pre-pay masses when they go over the allowance.
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openbox9
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1 recommendation

None of the tiered data plans should shock anyone. Many people forecasted the shift from metered minutes to metered data to continue growing revenue for the wireless carriers. This evolution has been happening for going on a decade now.

FLATLINE

join:2007-02-27
Buffalo, NY
Why do people insist on overvaluing data? No matter what data plan you have, regardless of carrier, we are all being ripped off when it comes to what we pay for data and what it costs to deliver.

Yes there are huge intitial costs to upgrade equipment. But those costs fall rapidly after deployment. Investments are generally recouped very quickly.

People need to pay better attention to this if its ever going to fixed. More importantly every time one of you spits a post out like that you single yourself out rather quickly as people someone who really doesn't know much about the subject at all.
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Re: fools

said by FLATLINE:

Why do people insist on overvaluing data?

People don't, the market does. Consumers continue paying for the services. Businesses will maintain and grow revenue and won't willingly take hits to their top or bottom lines.

FLATLINE

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Re: fools

The market doesn't exist with out consumers, consumers are people, the people are the market.
openbox9
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Re: fools

People implies individuals. Market suggests a collective. Markets have much more pricing power than people given this context.

88615298
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said by tmc8080:

keep getting ripped off for by the byte data and Verizon will keep selling it that way

yes because offering 93 million customers unlimited data that will slow the network to a crawl if it worsk at all is sooooo much better.

firephoto
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join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA

Postpaid is BS

Post paid doesn't exist, nearly everyone is one month in advance. You cancel your service on the last day of the billing cycle and your bill is near zero'd out.

I've seen a flurry of "postpaid" mentions in the last few weeks, it's just some marketing blitz put out in press releases to dilute the information on prepaid I'd guess. You have a phone and you owe nobody because you've already paid for what you're using. And it's been this way with telephone companies forever, I don't even know how or why this term even came about because it's rarely if ever existed in recent decades.

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Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH

3 phones with verizon

I have three phones with verizon.

Two smartphones with 4 GB of data each (got in during the double data sale).
One dumb phone with zero data.
700 shared minutes a month for all three phones.
unlimited texts for all three phones.

If I went to their new shared plan with 4 GB of shared data, unlimited voice and texts, I'd be paying $20 more a month.

I barely use 400 minutes a month over all three phones. No one calls anymore. All they do is text and use data. So why would I want unlimited voice calls?

My phone bill is already too high. I'm looking at other carriers not from the big four companies for my next phone once my contract is up in July.
ke4pym
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Charlotte, NC

Re: 3 phones with verizon

You do know you can keep your 700 shared minutes and still get new phones, yes?

You'll just have to move to the $30/mo 2GB data plan. You don't HAVE to go to share everything if you don't want too.
Body Count

join:2010-09-11
Columbus, OH

Re: 3 phones with verizon

said by ke4pym:

You do know you can keep your 700 shared minutes and still get new phones, yes?

You'll just have to move to the $30/mo 2GB data plan. You don't HAVE to go to share everything if you don't want too.

Yes I know I can renew with my current plan. I was just saying Verizon's share everything plan was more expensive for less data. Why would I change to that?

And I'm planning on moving phone companies this summer to another provider. $170 a month for 3 phones is too much. Yeah it's nice with 4G speeds but I can live with 3G if needed.

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said by Body Count:

My phone bill is already too high. I'm looking at other carriers not from the big four companies for my next phone once my contract is up in July.

I have to agree I have 2 smart phones and 2 dumb phones and since it will only cost me 100 bucks to get rid of them and my wife's phone is out of contract in july I am going to pay the 200 that is left to get out of mine so go over to T-Moble with there new plans that is way lower then I am paying with VZW !
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

They should make the plans upsize

They shouldn't have overages, you would just get automatically upsized to the next plan. Not only would it be a lot more fair for consumers, but Verizon could advertise that you'd never be charged an overage, and you'd always have the right size plan, in tern causing more people to use even more data...

cousintim

join:2004-10-10
Dallas, TX

As Speeds Increase, Caps Should Also Increase

Faster speeds means there is less stress on the network for the same size download. As more customers move to LTE and LTE gets faster, caps should get larger.

Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
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Re: As Speeds Increase, Caps Should Also Increase

Verizon disagrees.

1gb base cap on unusable 3G to 300mb data cap on highly usable LTE.

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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: As Speeds Increase, Caps Should Also Increase

said by Mike:

1gb base cap on unusable 3G to 300mb data cap on highly usable LTE.

Thanks for clearing up that my 3G which I have been using for 3 years now is unusable. Works fine for me on my phone for web browsing and phone type usage. I even, GHASP, watch Netflix just fine on my phone.

Mike
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Re: As Speeds Increase, Caps Should Also Increase

That must be incredible to have 3G from any carrier above 500 kbps. Damn east side of the state has all the cool toys...

IowaCowboy
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Springfield, MA
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Share Everything works for me

2 iPads, a mobile hotspot, an iPhone and two dumb phones with 4 GB of data is only $210 per month.

I like the unlimited minutes, as we use a lot of voice minutes (over 2000 per month).
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Meisterdee

@optonline.net

Verizon

Verizon with their excessive overage data charges and limited data plans, are basically "shooting themselves in the foot" and are only going to lose more and more customers like myself, I have been a faithful Verizon customer for over 10 years (since they were still called Bell Atlantic) had three lines, my average monthly bill was between $250 - $300 I finally had enough and as soon as one of the lines contract was up I took it off, the second line I just ported (before the contract was up) to T-Mobile, where for $70 a month you get unlimited everything, even with having to pay Verizon's hefty $160 early termination penalty, I'm still ahead of the game and will be saving money each and every month. I'm going to see how T-Mobil service and coverage is and if there isn't a major difference, I'll say good riddance to Verizon once and for all.

Another question regarding data charges, how do you know that you're being billed correctly for data usage, is there any way to verify the veracity of the charges or is it just based on Verizon's word.
Happydude32
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Re: Verizon

Android has a built in data usage monitor, so I guess you could use that and compare it against what Verizon says you’ve used. But I’ve got that disabled since obviously it takes into account the data usage on that device only, I have two smartphones and a USB modem sharing 10 GB on the Family Shared Plan for $200 bucks. Total ripoff! With Sprint two smartphones and a USB modem would be same $200 but I’d have unlimited data on the phones and 6GB on the modem. The only downside would be having to pay extra for the mobile hot spot feature on the phone, or I guess I could always root. Once Network Vision is complete, I’m done with Verizon, I’ll be back home with Sprint. Only reason I care about the mobile hot spot feature is to connect my tablet since the only decent tablet Verizon or Sprint offer with embedded data is the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, which I’m not interested in. I wish Sprint had a Shared Plan that let you share data between non phone devices like USB Air Cards, Mobile Hot Spots, Embedded Tablets and Mobile Hot Spots via Smart Phones.
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sava700

join:2005-03-08
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not using shared

I'm a verizon customer and I'm not on the shared plan for my two phones and I save $5/month AND I get 4 Gigs for one phone and 2Gigs for the other vs paying that $5 more and only sharing 4Gigs.

I don't need unlimited talking or text as I don't go over my limits now so..ohh well.