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join:2001-04-10
Delray Beach, FL
|  Is this the Holy Grail?
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Aggie Dan
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join:2001-01-30
Frisco, TX
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| Re: Is this the Holy Grail? How many generalities can this article include. Granted, I would *love* to have this be true. But, allow me to be at least a little skeptical until I see proof.
Yes, I am a doubting Thomas, but this definitely will have to be seen before I believe. This isn't the first such "breakthrough" in compression technology.
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join:2001-09-10
Falls Church, VA
| Re: Is this the Holy Grail? I agree, this is way to hopeful. Article says if it can be proven to work, which is the key here that the program itself hasnt been even developed yet and that all the work has probably been on paper. Not much prove there, so what if it theoritically works on paper. When I see proof then its just another scam. But hopefully it is actually true. | |
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Black Mammot
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join:2000-06-12
Lovettsville, VA
| Will help broadband This will HELP broadband. This will help with things like Video On Demand. No one really does this right now. It takes about 1.5 to 2 Mbits to do MPEG2 quality. Now imagine if you had the compression to deliver DVD quality on 1.5 Mbits or less. That would help it broadband even more. You would have telcos competing with you local cable company. Remember, advances helps more times than not. For example, since there is faster PC hardware, then no reason why to write good code....WRONG...still write good code, but write more intensive and better code to do more things. That's what we've seen.
I do NOT doubt what they have done. Microsoft has developed a compression algorithm as well that's suppose to be great and compress DVD quality even further. You really think the XBox is going to be just a gaming console? Heck no....you will see it doing Video On Demand.
Only good things can come of these things. 
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pvbbdotnet
join:2001-04-12
Fairfield, CA | What a load What a load of marketing crap. Unless they've somehow reinvented math, this is the "super compression" scam of this year (there's usually at least one of these a year). | |
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homebrewer5
join:2001-01-23
Lowell, MA
| Re: What a load said by pvbbdotnet:
What a load of marketing crap. Unless they've somehow reinvented math, this is the "super compression" scam of this year (there's usually at least one of these a year).
Let's see..Newton INVENTED Calculus to explain his ideas..
Hawking expanded quantum mechanics to explain his ideas too
So, "reinventing math" is not out of the realm of possibility. In 1898(sic) the gov't wanted to close down the US Patent office because "everything has been invented". It is entirely possible that "super compression" be done.
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join:2001-02-04
La Mesa, CA
| Not again I really don't think it can be true. All lossles compression does on a basic level is take patterns of data, such as 'aaaaa' and express them in a shorter form - '5a'. Sure it's more complicated than that, but that's the basic principle. And that can only be done to a certain extent. | |
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Neuralmancer
join:2001-12-18
Gurnee, IL
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Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA
| But.. You can tout this compression scheme all you want..
Compress a movie from 600mb down to 6 ? Great... not if it takes 30min of 100% cpu to uncompress it.
Most likely... this is a one time compression... not for on the fly compression /expansion.
OT : Is this related to the guy who claims to put 10 cd's on one floppy ?
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yvzvx
join:2002-01-08
Brooklyn, NY
|  Stuff and nonsense
The likelihood is 99.9% that this will follow on the heels of all the other prior untrue "revolutionary" compression algorithms. | |
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| Thud
join:2000-04-04
Alpharetta, GA
|  Well, there went mathematics out the door
But the output of that compression algorithm would be another string that's 1/100 as big. Since the algorithm works on any arbitrary string, that means you can feed the output back into the input, right? Eventually you can compress everything down to one byte, with no data loss!
Just think... the entire library of congress can be represented by the letter F. I wonder what G uncompresses to? It's probably a PDF file explaining how to build a perpetual motion machine or cold fusion!
This whole thing is bunk. Full of MarketingSpeak(tm) and pseudo-science, probably to attract ignorant investors and then run away with their money.
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FLea973
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join:2001-02-27
Morristown, NJ
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| Re: Well, there went mathematics out the door said by Jason Bruce:
Since the algorithm works on any arbitrary string, that means you can feed the output back into the input, right? Eventually you can compress everything down to one byte, with no data loss!
Just think... the entire library of congress can be represented by the letter F
Not that I'm saying that it isn't bunk, but, if you are going to loop the output back through the algorithm a few times to further compress the data the resulting output would have to also indicate how many times it needs to be looped in order to decompress correctly.
BTW - A thru G probably represent porn, afterall, it seems to be the leading innovative driver everywhere else  | |
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LasrX
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join:1999-12-23
San Jose, CA
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| Are these people making up new words!? Hm, "single bit encoding." Is this a technical term for handling data 1 piece at a time?
"Multi-dimensional mathematical entities" ok I can't say I'm a calculus wiz or theoretical mathematics guru. They keep referring to "multi-dimensional mathematics," yet don't really explain it at all. Maybe it has something to do with Quantum computing which is extremely good at certain types of complex calculations.
Not enough info to make any definitive judgments about them. They’ve been around since Aug 1999 and this is all they have to give, tisk tisk. Nice flash though.
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| philman2
join:2001-02-09
Van Nuys, CA
| Re: Are these people making up new words!?said by LasrX:
"Multi-dimensional mathematical entities" ok I can't say I'm a calculus wiz or theoretical mathematics guru. They keep referring to "multi-dimensional mathematics," yet don't really explain it at all.
Well, you are a "multi-dimensional" entity. You live in 3 dimension, right?!
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join:2001-02-21
Alexandria, VA | Perfect compression is easy. | |
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