Spam and web-visible email addressesBait a spammer and see the results ( old news - 01:13AM Sunday Feb 17 2002) tags: spam A while ago, as an experiment, we buried a link in these web pages that would generate a unique email address on a blank page when visited. The reason the link was hidden was to reduce the hit count of the page to manageable proportions, so we could be sure that future email to this unique address could be uniquely matched to the IP address doing the scooping. On 6.26am the morning of May 13th, 2001, the link is hit from IP 24.1.197.144 - a residential cable modem in Arizona, then on the @home network, now Cox. The browser is identified to the web server as a generic windows 95 version of Netscape. Of course it isn't, its an email harvesting robot that goes from web page to web page. Within just 8 hours, the first bit of spam arrives: given the short delay the spam was clearly generated by the same person who ran the program to scoop the email address in the first place. With a pro-active ISP abuse department this evidence would be enough to prosecute.. Our email to @home abuse goes un-answered. Subject: 10 Million Email Addresses, Stealth Mass Mailer & More.. 6601By the end of the year our poor little unique email address starts to receive almost daily spam. Remember, it was only out there on a single webpage on the whole internet, and a deeply hidden one at that..
2001-05-13 15:11:48 10 Million Email Addresses, Stealth Mass Mailer & More.. 6601
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The spam arrives courtesy open mail relays from all over the world: .kr, .cn, .my, .be, ,ru, .de, .se, .mx, .tw .. The open mail relays will conveniently handle the bandwidth intensive job of turning one message into millions.. while the original spammer hides relatively safely behind a throw-away dialup account (but we know where the trouble started from our web hit log). Given the regularity of the spam, the similarity of the headers, and a rather obvious "spam free holiday" over new year, it is probable that the original email scooper/spammer was behind the whole lot - he/she is probably being paid to spam for the products and companies within the spam emails, and doing his own work locating of open mail relays and email address scooping. With open mail relays, lists of 30 million email addresses, and a cable modem, it only takes a handful of professional spammers (such as this one) to deposit 10 or more daily pieces of spam into the mailbox of practically every frequent user of the net.. Someone in the (now Cox) cable department could match the customer and the IP/timestamp above, and prosecute the spammer.., but it is unlikely they will take an interest in the case.. after all - if the spammer is using someone elses mail relay, its someone elses problem, right? Should authorities be serious about fighting spam, then setting up a more comprehensive spam "bait" system such as this (essentially a sting operation) would make the life of a fulltime spam artist a lot more risky than it currently is.
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nklb
Premium
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Ypsilanti, MI
clubs: | Cool test I should run something similar from my site. I get more probes from bots than from real people. | |
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nklb
Premium
join:2000-11-17
Ypsilanti, MI
clubs:
| Re: Cool test 2001-12-15 01:21:45 Animals Like You Have Never Seen....... 12870
2001-12-15 14:06:42 Animals Like You Have Never Seen..... 31502
2001-11-25 11:16:25 5648 Would you like 822to lose weight while you sleep? 670617
2001-12-03 09:35:19 7368 Would you like to lose weight while you sleep? 3992134
Interesting, are they keeping tabs on the number of emails they send out? | |
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nklb
Premium
join:2000-11-17
Ypsilanti, MI
clubs:
| Re: HOW!!! my hotmail.com mail was taken!!! yeah, there are so many hotmail accounts that people (spammers) run programs that spam every hotmail account (a-z, aa-zz, aaa-zzz, etc...)
This could be an interesting test. create a 3-letter hotmail account and a 7 letter account. see how long it takes each to get spam. | |
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zzaab1
@sympatico.ca | Re: HOW!!! my hotmail.com mail was taken!!! I have a 14 character login at Hotmail that has never been spammed. The ones that are less that 7 characters have all received spam. I would attribute this to a sqequential attack as was described earlier. | |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| Alternative SPAM trap FWIW:
An alternative method, *** IF ***, you own your own domain name that has email.
Provide a unique "name" (to each and every?) contact you provide an email name. Say, amazon@mydomain.com, dslreports@mydomain.com, cnn@mydomain.com, yahoo@mydomain.com ...
Then, if email arrives from other than the original contact, you will know where the leak was.
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Copzilla$
Mmm... Donuts
join:2000-10-10
Friendswood, TX
| Re: Alternative SPAM trap I do this too. I currently have about 25 email addresses killed because of all the ass40L3 companies that sold the addresses. This would include nfl.com, mlb.com, many more. I do it exactly like you say.
The spam tips off who sold it, at which time I begin forwarding that entire email address to the CEO of the company that sold it, or the support email address.
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| Re: Alternative SPAM trap Ahh, forwarding it to the CEO.
Now That's Cool!
OTOH, "an eye for an eye and pretty soon the whole world will be blind" - an email for an email ... now where's that gonna' lead? ;(
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join:2001-12-22
Arlington, TX
| I use this method too, every time I need to fill out an e-mail address I make up one on the spot, but I take it a step further, for my personal friends I also group my e-mail messages telling different groups of my personal friends and family different addresses as well, this way if I even get spammed at one of these for some unknown reason (like if one of them fw's me a message along with dozens of other people, I HATE it when that happens) I just kill that address too and only have to tell a few friends a new address. It's a great way to keep the spam down.
In response to the replies, hmm, I never thought about fwing it back to the company that sold my e-mail address, how clever. | |
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Joe Z
@bbnow.net | Re: Cool test Outlook/Exchange purportedly will send the subject of the email when you click on a link within the email, so perhaps this is a way of tying a click-through to an email address. | |
| | kitsune
join:2001-11-26
Sacramento, CA
| one thing I did that kept me from getting spam for years was to begin my email account with a _. I opened it about 6 years ago and didn't start getting spam until about a year ago and I think that was my fault.. I accidentally used it to register somewhere without thinking about it... most email providers won't allow you to use that as a beginning character so they don't usually catch those ones. | |
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Lyc360
join:2001-09-23
Davidsonville, MD
| great idea.
AS an old timer, I used variations on my name for magazine subscriptions in the past to track this sort of thing. Now it's email addresses. Plus c'a change, plus c'a meme chose, as they say.
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sonofjay
Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003
Premium,MVM
join:2001-05-14
North Attleboro, MA
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| I don't like Spam! I wish there was some kind of enforcement to stop these a**holes. Sadly the only way it will ever happen is if they are forced to do it through legislation.
Nice experiment by the way!
[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 01:32:37] | |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
|  Here's an idea
Thats a simple job. Just make the people with the open mail relay's responsible for anything which comes out of their relay, and I guarantee it will close. And if they dont take responsibility, close them to your network.
Is there a way I can set my main program to reject mail from a specific relay with a reply letter? | |
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rchandra
Stargate S G-1 And Atlantis Fan
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14210-2642
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| Re: Here's an idea Maybe. That all depends on what you're talking about when you say "my main program."
The task you're talking about is exceptionally easy (comparatively) with Sendmail::Milter and Sendmail for instance, if you know Perl.
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raw
War Eagle
Premium
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Auburn, AL
clubs:
| Re: I don't like Spam! I don't like spam either. | |
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sonofjay
Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003
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North Attleboro, MA | Re: I don't like Spam! What about Spam with Spam?  | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Re: I don't like Spam! I'd prefer spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam and spam!! | |
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sonofjay
Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003
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join:2001-05-14
North Attleboro, MA | Re: I don't like Spam! LOL  | |
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fhole
The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings
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Clover, SC |  Re: I don't like Spam!
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JustMe-
@mindspring.com
| Encourage your ISP to block mail originating from open relays. Some, including Earthlink, already do. Report any that you find to your ISP to be added to that block list.
Also, if you only receive legitimate email from a set list of people, you can setup your email program to filter out anything that comes in from someone not on that list. It doesnt prevent it from getting sent to you, but it does make it easier to not have to look at. | |
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GrandFunkRR$
Guitar Player Music Maker
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FunkU2 | Spam sucks!! IMHO it's borderline harrassment. Shut em' down!!!!!! | |
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felix4067
join:2000-10-11
Comstock Park, MI
| Re: burn spamers burn I don't think earthlink sold us...at least I don't get any more spam in my earthlink account than any other one. You must have just gotten on a list somehow. Here in Michigan they're about to pass (or did pass, I've been busy lately and haven't kept track) a law so we CAN sue for spam. It goes through the state Attorney General's office.
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join:2001-02-03
Natchitoches, LA
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY | Re: You had it easy! oh no.. its just the spam that *one* of the randomly generated bait emails got - multiply this by 10 for the spam that all of them received .. | |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| Too bad they did forge this guy's domain. :-) Spammer's are scum and should be tarred and feathered in public.
This is an older Spam story, but a lot of you might find it an interesting read.
Behind Enemy Lines
A Spammer's Luck Runs Out When
She Forges The Wrong Domain
»belps.freewebsites.com/index.html
Regards,
Doctor Olds
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mntlcase$
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Greensboro, NC | Re: Too bad they did forge this guy's domain. :-) Incredibly AWESOME read Dr Olds! | |
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join:2001-05-20
Racine, WI | i really enjoyed that "behind enemy lines":).
to bad they can't take those kind of people and sentence them to life in front of a firing squad | |
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rtcpenguin
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join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA | Re: Too bad they did forge this guy's domain. :-) very funny | |
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sonofjay
Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003
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join:2001-05-14
North Attleboro, MA | Excellent reading there Doctor thanks for the post! | |
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rklein
God Among Hogs
join:2001-01-18
Worcester, MA | What gets me is that this anti-spam website subjects you to WebSpam; pop-under ads. | |
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join:2001-02-20
Palisades Park, NJ
| I think Rodona Garst would be considered "owned" by her fellow spammer bitchmates. Getting someones Social Security # and letting them know you have it will always send a well deserved chill up a pain in the a$$es spine, but posting it on the internet and its still up for 2 years?? What is this Rodona lady clueless? Seems so. Unless that webserver has no TOS. Man I really enjoyed the 2 hours I spent glossing over that website. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing that woman have her life made public. I bet she just cringes when she sees those love letters at the end. LOL | |
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CitizenX9
join:2002-01-09
Longview, TX
| Don't forget.. Legislation is being worked on to that requires people to use their REAL e-mail addresses. This may put services like hotmail out of service but oh well. If it rids the net of spammers, so be it. I have 8 e-mail accounts with my cable service and only use 2 for signing up for shit and 1 for REAL e-mail to friends ect and make sure NOBODY else gets it. | |
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kcazzie
One Of Jerry's Kids
Premium
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Morton Grove, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
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[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 03:09:20] | |
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quientus
So Red Shoes
Premium
join:2000-08-11
San Jose, CA
edited
| Re: Maybe interesting for you..
in the source code it plainly states your email addy.. so bad for you dslr.com!
all a robot does it scan the html, am i right?
[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 08:54:02] | |
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quientus
So Red Shoes
Premium
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San Jose, CA | 2002-01-09 14:16:05 Boost Your Windows Reliability lol!!!!!!!
i want that. | |
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Recluse
join:2001-10-30
Randolph, NJ
| The case of the Irate Spammer
I got this list from a .sig that I found in a USENET posting, and had added some of the worse spammers to hit my mailbox.
One day, I get an IRATE email from one of the addresses on the list threatening me with legal action because of all the spam they got as a result of my posting their address. They vehemently denied they were spammers. I believe that I had indeed received spam from that address.
In the interests of harmony, I replied that I was SO SORRY, and would remove their address from my page. I also sent them the DejaNews link containing literally THOUSANDS of USENET messages which had also appropriated the Spammer blacklist as well as a short AltaVista search showing literally HUNDREDS of web pages that had posted the list in some form or other (including their address). LOL! I felt flattered to be singled out..
Recluse (user of SPAMCOP now!) | |
| | | rfrenchu
join:2001-11-06
Carson City, NV
| A More Proactive Approach
Naturally, this is never gonna happen, so you can do it just for fun.
»www.geocities.com/drjosemariachi···unt.html | |
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Techie2000
In Vertigo
Premium
join:2001-12-05
clubs:
| Cool! That was a neat test. I think you should prosecute if Cox.net stops being an idiot. New idea for AOL You've got mail voice: You've got new spam!
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nil
Java Geek
join:2000-11-27
Host:
Webmasters and Dev..
Forum Feature Requ..
| Open relays To minimize spam, you can subscribe to an open relay monitoring service like »www.ordb.org.
Filtering out known open relays should cut down on spam significantly..
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ImFixingIt
join:2001-12-11
Providence, RI
| This is easy. 1.) All American ISPs should be default reject email from all foreign domains unless a subscriber directly requests email from either a specific domain or a specific email address served on a foreign domain.
2.) Offer rewards to one ISP1 reporting another ISP2 for not address spamming issues originating from ISP2 that does not shutdown that spammer with 72 hours of operation. This would include a monetary fine (say $100K per episode) for the ISP, a fine agasint the spammer $10K per episode), and a listing of both parties (ISP2 and spammer) on a federal listing agency that a) removes the spammer's right to vote, get a federal or state job, receive snail mail from the USPS (my favorite ) etc.
3.) Re-invent the opt-out mechanism to an opt-in where by default domains are closed and an ISP1-sent email with a list of USA-only domains requesting to send email to subscriber must seek subscriber permission before doing so, and subscriber must officially make request to receive email from foreign domains.
4.) Any foreign nation not cracking down on open-relays immediately ceases to receive US foreign support. Period. Let them worry about their own people and how they country as a whole is affected by actions of individuals and their shoddy network security.
5.) Repeat offender in the USA get mandatory jail time breaking rocks into stones for 10 years. Hehe, they'll learn. Or maybe make them come mow our lawns for 10 years. "Thinking about spamming someone? Is it worth the indenturement?"
6.) Pass a law allowing the individual consumer to control their POP mail on their local end and not the ISP end.
Ok, I could go on, but why? We are lazy Americans and nothing will change.
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phathead296
Got Slack?
join:2001-11-09
Charleston, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| A REAL solution to Spam
Sneakemail
Their servers are slow, but the service is free. What you do is create a new e-mail for everything you sign up for. I have about 60 e-mail addresses now. One for each web site I sign up for. If one of those address starts to produce spam, I have the choice of either filtering based on address, or removing the e-mail address. I've never had to do that. Plus, if you do start to get spam at an address, you can question the person you gave the address too since that's the only person who's ever had it. I'm not sure if it's had any effect yet, but people might start to respect @sneakemail.com addresses after they've been called on their sharing of addresses.
Anyway, check it out if you want to rid yourself of spam. Their web servers are slow, but they seem to have dealt with the e-mail delays I was seeing many months ago.
This doesn't really help you if you post an address for a harvesting robot to pick up, but I suppose you could create one even for that and when the spam gets unbearable, you can delete the address.
Phathead | |
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Rxdoxx
Premium,Mod
join:2000-11-03
Middle River, MD
clubs:
 ·Comcast
Host:
Software
Washington DC/Balt..
| So much to learn Starfish - my head hurts bookmarked your post so I can read it over and over until I begin to understand.
nil- something else for me to study how/what it does.
Never used the @home addy, had problems from the start with it and my workaround was to rely on a hotmail account.
(Same with the new comcast) Ran into some brick walls that required a "real" e-mail, I just lived with it.
Then about August, started seeing a lot of diploma, college stuff and it has grown from there. I recognize a bunch of the list, from the HI There, to the make money....
MSN block sender is not being that effective (so it appears, but I can't really tell), Not an area I have given a lot of attention to, but an area that is getting more and more of my interest.
For people with my knowledge/skill/lack of skill, I wait and hope for (very honestly and openly) someone to create a program like AdAware, windowwasher, HDValet... that will do the job for me. My wallet is ready to open for whomever produces it. And looks like there is some money to be made by whoever does. Given the fact that posters in this thread and at DSLR seem to be the computer literate, and the general public has a growing need. A program that I can send to my e-mail account that cleans it before I get there for $29?? Where do I line up for it??
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RAZ Black
join:2001-10-04
Mansfield, TX
| Re: So much to learn Unfortunately, an 'after-the-fact' software program only prevents you from having to see or read the mail. The fact is that the mail is still being produced and distributed in far less than 'honorable' manners.
I'ld like to be educated on how this guy did this, and how DLSR created the page to track the abuser... This could be setup into a national 'tracking' system to quickly catch these people like 'premier services' and bust them as soon as they logon to the internet. I would consider their offenses to be just as bad as a hacker breaking into a bank and transfering money, they should be restricted from any internet and computer use. period. | |
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eponymous
| killda spammers What about a category for spam-friendliness in the ISP ratings? Maybe most people wouldn't know how to rate their ISP - maybe dslreports could do it with tricks like this. A little publicity might turn these guys around. I'm hoping comcast won't be as clueless about stopping this stuff as @home was. | |
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RAZ Black
join:2001-10-04
Mansfield, TX
| Teach us how to stop these people. Could DSLR post or document how they did this.
I'ld like to use the code to do the same for my websites... Maybe a national tracking system could be developed to help stop these types of activities and to catch these people in the act.
It would be cool to get funding from the CIA to set this up, a national 'spam' tracking system... with a task force like SWAT team to rush in, break down the door, and arrest these people. (like they did to the warez people)
That would scare the crap out of them!!!!!! | |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| Re: /. (Hey Justin) So, I wasn't around when the story hit slashdot or for a good while afterwards... How'd the site hold up ?? Can you show a 'chart' of site hits for today ?? Just curious.
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