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Titanium
join:2000-05-25
Atlanta, GA | hand made... riiiiiiiiight ... thats the biggest crock of $hit i have ever heard... but can't expect much else from this company. | |
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join:2001-09-18
Charter-WI
| Re: hand made... Think about this. If you lose a movie from a video store you have to pay the 89.95 suggested retail cost.
If you lose a book from the library you have to pay the suggested retail cost.
You could go to a discount store and buy these items cheaper. This is how companies ensure that they will get their return on their investment if a customer loses or breaks it.
Just my 2 Cents--Flame Away 
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cybermud
join:2000-08-25
Chicago, IL
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| Re: hand made... I agree with you wholeheartedly, but often times, AT&T specifies that it is their responsibility to pick up the modem. If they never do, then are you liable?
I also understand that most people aren't home during the day when tech's are out installing new modems and collecting old ones, so this is kind of a grey area.... | |
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too lazy to register
@direcpc.com | may or may not be handmade
but just like you said, you must pay the original price of a missing movie from a movie store
because they have a special license
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Re: hand made... Actually, these Shark Fin modems are discontinued units from 3Com that you could by in the store for $150 to $199 dollars, so no, at&t has no grounds for charging $650 for it. | |
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join:2001-06-17
Plymouth, MA | Re: hand made... AT&T can charge whatever they want.... Because they can! | |
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join:2002-02-03
Edmonton, AB
| they also charge 49.95 for a network card that may or may not be brand-new out-of-the-box. Their justification is that they're also delivering this nic to your door, even though a tech is coming out anyways to install your service(which they're charging 49.95 for anyways; assuming its not a promo). | |
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join:2001-04-08
Matawan, NJ
| I guess it might be a good price. It may be a rare shark fin and you can get a lot of money for the soup.
[text was edited by author 2002-03-09 22:48:21] | |
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buddasahn
join:2000-11-27
Akron, OH
| Yeah..OK..they're hand-made! just like my nike's Are you kidding me? What a bunch of horse s**t! These modems are probably made right down the street in another Taiwanese sweat shop...probably on the same line as my damm sneakers. You can say what you want about how congressional leaders rip the public off and waste our tax money....but ...GEEZE LOUISE.... these utility companies come up with more hidden and outrageous fees than I've ever seen before.
Just a little message to those in charge... DON'T INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE!!! WE, AS CONSUMERS, ARE NOT AS GROTESQUELY STUPID AS THOSE LAME-BRAIN IDIOTS THAT YOU HIRE IN THE 1ST PLACE!!! | |
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cdgreer
Hoosiers
join:2002-01-03
Columbus, IN
| Re: Yeah..OK..they're hand-made! just like my nike's That's funny... I have a shark fin modem and it's made by 3com.. and retailed for about 175.. good thing the satellite dish people don't do that. they never did come get mine and it's been 2 years. course, you can buy the whole thing from wal-mart for 49 dollars. | |
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daparker
Nothing Runs Like A Deere
Premium
join:2001-11-06
@ H2O
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| Umm, I think they were kidding about where the modems were made. Granted the price is pretty outrageous, but in the attbi forum it was pointed out that AT&T probably got to that figure by calculating the cost to get someone out there, court fees, etc if one was unwilling to return it. | |
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dangerweasel
Confirmed Luddite
join:2000-07-21
Portland, OR
|  Re: Yeah..OK..they're hand-made! just like my nike's
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ChristianChicago
@attbi.com | Good Point You had a good point going there. I would tend to believe that more than anything. | |
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pules
join:2001-01-10
Los Angeles, CA
·Comcast Formerly ..
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| tis true I cancelled my service with ATT some 8 months ago, but no one ever showed up to pick up the equipment. I had both Internet and digital cable TV with ATT. About a month ago I got a bill for $1,600. I was like what the? I called them up and the customer care person told me that all of the charges were for the equipment. I was so shocked. I too had the shark fin modem. I guess that’s ATT for you!!
To solve the problem, just return the damn thing even though it’s their job to come pick up their stuff to avoid these charges. | |
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Amun9
Cash, It's As Good As Money
join:2001-06-10
Morgan City, LA
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Jimbo70
join:2001-10-24
Bristol, CT
| Hmm, when I cancelled my digital cable and later my cable modem, I had to return the equipment to the local center. When I was in college and brought home the cable box at the end of the semester (I finished finals before the cable company come on campus to pick up the cable boxes) I was charged for the box and had to drive up to return it.
The idea here is that if AT&T (or any cable/broadband provider) makes it a pain in the arse to cancel service, you are less likely to go through the trouble to do so. If it was a matter of calling to cancel the service then leaving the equipment on the front step for the cable guy to come retrieve, they probably would've lost more customers when the added that annoying TV Guide thing at the bottom of your screen when you change channels. | |
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The Dv8or
I post because you're unable to Google
Premium
join:2001-08-09
Danbury, CT
clubs:
| I believe them... said by AT&T:
hand-made by top executives at a clean-room on the top floor of the AT&T headquarters
Of course! It makes perfect sense! In the attic where they lock up illegal immigrants, chain them to their stations, and force them to get everything perfect, or get whipped by the guards. And they are "top executives". They are on top of the building, and if they miss one part on one modem, they get executed. See, and you all thought it was a bunch of baloney. AT&T tells the truth! 
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boom4u
join:2001-01-20
Holiday, FL
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richb01803
Rich
join:2001-02-14
02100
| Re: Ur all wrong After a certain number of price-gouging months, the cable company should just assign equipment ownership over to the customer. If the equipment's only worth a hundred bucks or less, it's more of a headache to process returned equipment (which is generally obsolete anyway) than to just give it to the customer.
Of course, they don't think of that.
I think it was AARP that squawked at another division of AT&T for continuing to charge rental fees on 40-year-old phones installed at the homes of hundreds of thousands of nice old ladies. The telco finally sent them a letter saying keep the phone, we're not going to gouge you for it any more.
Somehow I suspect there will be more than one 90-year old still paying AT&T ten bucks a month (2002 dollars) for a 3com shark-fin modem in the year 2042. | |
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Sarah
Premium,ExMod 2002-05
join:2001-01-09
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
| Re: Ur all wrong said by richb01803:
I think it was AARP that squawked at another division of AT&T for continuing to charge rental fees on 40-year-old phones installed at the homes of hundreds of thousands of nice old ladies. The telco finally sent them a letter saying keep the phone, we're not going to gouge you for it any more.
Hmm. This happened to my grandmother, except they never sent her that letter. She had been renting a phone since god knows when, died when she was 87 a couple of years ago. They called my father about an overdue bill for the phone company, and it turned out that since she hadn't made any calls in months the only charge on it was the phone rental. Turns out she had been charged something like $2,000 for this old rotary phone over the years... my dad almost killed the person on the phone for suggesting that she owed them $10 more!
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soamelt
join:2000-10-23
| said by boom4u:
so its YOUR responsibility to return it
When I had Comcast@home my modem died. I told them that I would return it and pick a new one up, they said no, you have to wait for the next available dispatch (which was 3 days). They said they don't allow customers to pick stuff up at their local office. Of course when I canceled a few months later they asked when I would be able to stop by their local office to drop the equipment off. Needless to say I made them do a truck roll to pick it up. | |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| Re: Ur all wrong Thats right because I believe they contract out installation. So the modem did not even belong to them.
Mine died too. Im considering buying a modem since if I can get one for $100 I can be saving doe in a few months. But Its so volatile and I got screwed by NP that I just cant bring myself to do it...
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TimSpencer
join:2001-05-18
Arvada, CO
·Comcast
| Cox tried to bill me $500... I inadvertently packed my cable modem when we moved from CA to Denver. I called Cox and they sent me a box to return the equipment. The package was received and signed for in CA, but they claim the cable modem serial number is still not in their inventory system so they tried to charge me for it. Took me almost six months to resolve. | |
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AkumalDave
Life's A Beach
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN
| Yes, but...it worked, didn't it? I'd view this more as an "Incentive Clause" than AT&T thinking their modems can walk on water. If they charged the $50 or so a used cable modem might garner on ebay, how many do you think they'd get back? Exactly. But, bill the former customer $650 for it and the return rate skyrockets.
Of course, the $650 price wouldn't likely stand up in court. But, it sure gets attention!
FWIW, I was responsible for returning my Cable Box to AT&T when the jerks cancelled my grandfathered-in Movie Package and I dumped them for DirecTV. Don't see why their Internet equipment should be any different.
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richb01803
Rich
join:2001-02-14
02100
| Pre-emptive strike
Saved me $10/month and avoids the danger of ever getting screwed by one of these charges.
Do it today--if you have a rental modem, buy a replacement (too lazy to go to the store? click www.warehouse.com or www.computershopper.com). It'll feel better, not paying so much $$$ to AT&T every month.
Just be sure to get a receipt when you give your old modem back to AT&T! | |
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jamesd0
join:2001-09-13
Carol Stream, IL | $650!!! | |
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skedatl$
To Provoke And Annoy
Premium
join:2002-01-29
Corona, CA
| The fact remains ATT can't only claim the real worth of the modem. They can try and charge you $500 but it's so arbitrary, why not make it $1000. Unless the charge is stated in the contract...the amount falls to fair market value.
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| achuchma
join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| Re: The fact remains said by skedatl:
ATT can't only claim the real worth of the modem. They can try and charge you $500 but it's so arbitrary, why not make it $1000. Unless the charge is stated in the contract...the amount falls to fair market value.
Exactly, we practice the same with customer's when we lease them equipment when we set-up their OC-3, etc...
The fees we charge customers when they cancel their telecommunications contract (or let it expire) and refuse to let our techs take the multiplexers are much higher than what we buy the equipment for.
Mostly it's to recover leased equipment because most customers won't pay the insane charges.
Most courts won't let us hold the charges to the customer, but issue an order to force return of the equipment.
After all, they leased it from us, therefore we still own it.
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titanium
Titanium
join:2000-05-25
Atlanta, GA | Re: Modem costs it wouldnt have cost them 650$ EVER.. i bought my cable modem from AT&T 2 years ago (was mediaone then) like a dumbass.. anyways, it cost me 250$... so, it deff. didnt cost them 650$ a year ago. | |
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richb01803
Rich
join:2001-02-14
02100
| said by VindictiV:
Depending on when AT&T bought that modem, it may well have cost that much. It was not that long ago when cable modems were very expensive, and if it happens to be a modem they bought even 2 years ago that cost could be close to valid.
The price drop happened in 1997. I have a Motorola Surfboard model 1000 gathering dust in my basement, delivered to me in November 1997 by a company called CAI Wireless. (When they got out of the business, they sent a letter to customers reassigning ownership of the cable modems to the subscriber.) That model was worth somewhere in the $250-$300 range five years ago.
I saw my first cable modem two and a half years before that, at Boston's Museum of Science by Continental Cable (did I run into any of you other DSLR readers at that event--it was well-attended). At that point, a cable modem consisted of a PC-sized case plus a second box, and cost over $2000. The presenters conceded even then that the price had to go below $500 before the service could be deployed widely.
It's been quite a while, though. $650 is out of the ballpark. If they're going to charge penalties on top of the replacement cost of the cable modem, then they need to spell that out in their rental agreement. In any event--you should be able to pick up a shark-fin modem on eBay and return that (after informing them of the new serial number).
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djrobsd
join:2002-01-24
San Diego, CA
| what a crock These companies love to RIP PEOPLE OFF.
I got the Motorola Surfboard modem from @HOME when they were still in business.
I signed a contract for $10 a month for 24 months for the modem. My contract states "If the service is cancelled, customer will still be responsible for the duration of the purchase contract."
They specifically told me I am BUYING not RENTING the modem, and that if I cancel my service, I still have to BUY the modem, they won't take it back.
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I am paying $240 for the modem.. Not bad.. And if I cancel now, I still have 12 more payments to go at 10 bucks a month.. Also not bad, seeing as how I can probably put it on ebay if I decide to get DSL...
Speaking of which, I wonder if someone would trade me a DSL router for my cable modem.. hehehehe | |
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| Lvmyhugs
join:2002-03-08
Lakewood, WA
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join:2001-05-11
USA | The Evil Empire There is a reason that the corporate logo for AT&T is the Death Star. The Corporate executives all follow the dark side of the force. | |
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redslayer
join:2002-01-16
Corvallis, OR |  Buy the damn fin then.
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sago
join:2001-12-19
| misinformation Are they supposed to pick it up, or is the customer supposed to drop it off?
I have heard people talking that at least with Comcast (my cable provider), if you cancel your account you have to drop it off yourself at the nearest cable office.
Thing is... the customer still has the modem in their possesion, right?
It's not like the modem is lost or something. I wonder how much an insurance company would give you if it was stolen; it's probably not worth stealing anyway.
Sounds like just a plain old simple lack of communication; customer could probably go drop it off and have the fee waived. | |
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ShrayKumar
H To The Izzo, V To Tha Izza
join:2001-12-06
Edison, NJ
clubs: | Re: misinformation BULL S*H*I*T, my mom worx for a different part of sharkfin which manages modems and thats plain crap. | |
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ATLJ
Go Braves
Premium
join:1999-12-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: Oh please said by Mike:
All these "bullshit" posts I'm seeing are a joke. That's a corporate trick to get people to return their equipment. You make the "punishment" so insanely high, they're almost guaranteed to get the CPE back.
Exactly...It's not like they are charging customers that amount after they return the equipment. It is a way to get equipment back that THEY OWN and you were borrowing (leasing)...and I imagine that this is in the contract when you sign up that you will pay if you don't return the leased modem...
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NetEffects
join:2002-03-05
michigan
| ATT Warned Me.......... When I was moving, I called AT&T to cancel my service. The operator told me I had 30 days to return the modem to the closest service center. (the other side of town) She also told me to copy down the model, and serial number. "When you return it, make sure to get a signed receipt."
Wouldn't you know it 10 days after I returned it, a bill for $300. (They were cheaper back then) I had to fax a copy of the information plus the signed receipt. They took the charge off in the end. | |
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badbeat1
join:2001-05-18
Seattle, WA
| In honor of the late Lilly Tomlin...
ATT: WE DON'T CARE WE DON'T HAVE TO....
Thank you for using AT&T
Home of the ever-rent phone and We own Consumer capitalized and maintained telegraph line(soon to be re-named high-datatensity copper plus!)
Look for the they bought it again(and again and again)! Digital fiber network (Bonus!!!!FCC subsidized in 49 states DOC xmpt)
And coming July 2000 We bought what they laid ...Cable TV network (currenty under wholesale revision by exploititave law specialists Will, Yee ,Jackem & Howe...) | |
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