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Huntsville, AL |  Field Trip
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akristov
join:2001-01-31
Tampa, FL
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| Maybe it is all the Snow... Hmmm... Do I want to scrape windsheld and drive through the snow? Or relax in my cozy abode and telecommunte? There are many other similar issues like this. I am from Florida so that is the first one that popped in my head. Of course broadband will be more popular up in the COLD NORTH. | |
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Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
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| Re: Maybe it is all the Snow... akristov you do have the right idea. We up here in the cold north...well it is warm sometimes, some of us hate winter, other don't. But with most of our communites really spread out, I mean have you looked at a map? We have maybe 30,000,000 people in the entire country, the last cenus showed almost 7 million of them living in southern ontario. It's much easier to stay in contact online, then it is to call on the phone or drive.
From where I live it's 40mins to a city with more then 250,000 people, it's more then 1hr to a city with more then 1 million people. While you might think that's good, try someone who lives in saskatchawan. On a side note, in a lot of places there really isn't "much" to do. In my home town(35,000) no places for kids to go and hang out, cops arrest kids who skateboard, no skate parks, we have two bars and were still riding out the heavy industry slump.
Kids have the following to do, hang out downtown and loiter. Young adults have goto another city, or try to get into the only "two" bars we have. | |
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emmpeethree
Twizzling Flagella
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join:2001-04-13
Richmond, BC | you are so, SO dense | |
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join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI
| Re: Field Trip I can tell you exactly how. They have a heavily regulated almost socialized telecom system protecting them from abuse. Socialized telecom systems are the most perfect form of telecommunications. How can you explain why Canada beats the crap out of the US in Broadband Abe Froman? Isn't regulation the ultimate evil?? I thought regulation hurt business. What's the problem Mr. Froman. | |
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72245156
TSWB.org
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join:2000-07-11
Winnipeg, MB
| Re: Field Trip said by 2farfromCO:
They have a heavily regulated almost socialized telecom system protecting them from abuse.
Not anymore. Telcos are privatized and the cable companies have no competition. Cable and DSL go head to head. Prices are going up now also, but still not to US levels. Bit caps are being introduced in some areas, as well as more profitable pricing plans.
The reason so many people have broadband has been a heavy marketing push for the last few years by both the cable companies and Telcos. Current deals include 1st 2 months free and free installation from the cable companies, and from the Telcos for DSL is either $19.95CDN a month for the 1st 6 months or a 1st month free, as well as free installation.
Check out some of the discussion in the Canadian Broadband forum or the Sympatico HSE forum. You will find a few unhappy people.
Still though, at present, for $43.95CDN a month (go find a currency converter - I'm not making this easy on you), I have a relatively stable 5000/1900 connection. I will not complain.
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sadowski
I Am My Own Doppelganger
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join:2000-04-14
Buffalo, NY
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| Re: Field Trip said by Kinguni:
The reason so many people have broadband has been a heavy marketing push for the last few years by both the cable companies and Telcos.
I can vouch for that. Bell Sympatico has been buying a huge amount of time here. Regular commercials and infomercials. I've seen the infomercial stripped virtually 5 days per week at times, but almost always at least once or twice per week. And remember, this is just at this one particular time - it could be on others as well. I don't think I've ever seen once a Verizon DSL commercial.
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72245156
TSWB.org
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Winnipeg, MB
| Re: Field Trip said by sadowski:
I don't think I've ever seen once a Verizon DSL commercial.
I don't watch mush TV at all here, but I've actually seen a Verizon DSL commercial up here (on one of our American station). 
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sadowski
I Am My Own Doppelganger
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Buffalo, NY
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| Re: Field Trip Neither do I but I would have expected over time to see at least one. On the other hand VZ land line and wireless commercials flood the air... including that one bill nonsense ("Now we have to the important things, each other!" Who the hell writes this stuff! ).
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Spego
Ack
join:2000-11-07
Eastpointe, MI
| said by Kinguni:
Still though, at present, for $43.95CDN a month (go find a currency converter - I'm not making this easy on you), I have a relatively stable 5000/1900 connection. I will not complain.
That's it, I'm packing up my stuff and heading across the Ambassador Bridge... | |
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72245156
TSWB.org
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Winnipeg, MB
| Re: Field Trip said by Spego:
That's it, I'm packing up my stuff and heading across the Ambassador Bridge...
You gotta come west for my speeds because Shaw cable rocks. Taking the short rout like that will get you 2500/360 at best, and likely slower.
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA | Oh Canada, WE stand on guard for thee. I like hockey , eh?
time to move to toronto. plus your molson ale kicks ass. | |
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pH1
Rawr
join:2001-12-31
Canada | Re: Field Trip said by KrK:
Just proves how much the DSL here sucks by comparison.
He has cable, not DSL. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Field Trip Does he? I got the impression it was DSL. Didn't see anyone mention cable anywhere... | |
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join:2002-03-14
San Bruno, CA
| well, even if he has cable...those upload speeds are a hell of a lot better than here in the U.S. Especially for the price. In vancouver, Shaw Cable runs speeds of 8000/1000, for 40 bucks canadian. from what i've heard, they kinda suck now, but with speeds like that for such a cheap price, you just can't beat it!
(I seriously hope they do somethin about the such poor speeds in the San Francisco Bay area. We are so close to silicon valley, yet get the shi**iest speeds...)
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Proud to be an Ameri
@167.153.x.x
| And it's just amazing how so many Canadians wished that they were American. | |
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j_a_t_h
join:2002-04-29
canada
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| Re: Field Trip You have never to Canada. If you have been you would know why all Canadians want to be American's, here are a few reasons.
It is almost impossible to get murdered in Canada, I live in a major city, I could walk thur the worst part of town flashing $1000's and not be bother. But if we moved to the USA the chance of being murdered go up 20X, change of being robbed goes up 50X. How can anyone stand to live in such a safe place, where is the fun in it.
Education. 99% of all Canadians are able to read and write at a grade 9 level. In the USA only 50%
Poverty. Do you know how hard it to find a poor person to make fun of in Canada, the panhandles make more money then most people. Homeless people in NYC 500,000 this would make it one of Canada's large cities
Population of Canada 30 million, population of American's who have been in prison 35 million.
I have never meet a Canadian over age 16 who wanted to be a american.
The U.N. makes a survey every years the the 49 Industrial countries. In the last 5 years Canada has been #1 four times. The USA has been #48 all five years. | |
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MortySnerd
join:2001-07-26
Mclean, VA
| Re: Field Trip Hey there
Do you know where I can find the entire list of this report? I think I found a mention of the report you mentioned here at this link, but it shows the US as #6 and not #48 for the year 2001. Another link I found had the US as #3 for the year 2000.
»www.undp.org/hdr2001/clips/Canadathird.pdf | |
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Proud to be an Ameri
@167.153.x.x
| Canadians are leaving in droves and heading south and you know it. One only has to scan immigration groups on usenet to see what I mean. | |
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@telus.net | I actually don't know any canadians that want to be americans. And I live in Canada | |
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@169.199.x.x
| "Education. 99% of all Canadians are able to read and write at a grade 9 level. In the USA only 50%"
your english is,....fantastic | |
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join:2002-02-25
North York, ON
| Re: Availability & price vs. MPAA & RIAA Yes, there are *NO* movies on the net I know that most of my friends have the Lord of the Rings, Fight Club and 100's of other movies on thier computers. Too bad we can't and most likey won't pay for such a nice video on demand service served up by fast broadband and friendly peer to peer networks. | |
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join:2002-05-13
canada | Re: Availability & price vs. MPAA & RIAA 5 gig cap forget it! | |
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
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| It might be easier to name...... ....a country that is not ahead of the US in this arena.
The countries who are way ahead abound.
1. South Korea
2. Canada
3. Belgium
4. Japan
etc. etc. etc.
The list continues to grow. Soon, China will have outpaced us. And don't tell me that "denser" population centers have anything to do with it. They have billions more in population to wire up than we do.
I have read that countries like CROATIA even are making greater strides than we are.
Soon, other countries that we consider third world will have passed us up.
It's a reality, folks.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX
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| Re: It might be easier to name...... No, I think it helps to demonstrate that some bodies of government are not actually in the pockets in corporate interests, per se.
Some legislation is actually founded on the idea of improving the quality of life for citizens.
Not to downplay the quality of life or standard of living here in the US, but it makes one think, does it not?
I still love this country, and have defended it in wartime.
I just don't like what goes on a lot of times in our government.
I have a right to say that. So does anyone else.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
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| Re: It might be easier to name...... I'm not saying you're downplaying the US....neither am I.
I am just frustrated as hell as we in the US are rapidly becoming the "broadband third world country" that I have referred to many times before.
Every day it becomes more and more evident.
It has to change.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | said by BrianDamage:
....a country that is not ahead of the US in this arena.
Um. Somalia and Afghanistan. There! See! We're still world leaders!!! | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Re: It might be easier to name...... I forgot Haiti! | |
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2farfromCO7
join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI | This is what deregulation get us This is why I'm so sick of Republicans shoving their deregulation propaganda down our throat. Republican deregulation policies are solely responsible for broadband deployment being stalled. | |
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oldtext
join:2001-03-20
Inglewood, CA | AOL... damn them, they have too many users blame it on AOL, they have too many users in US.
um.... actually its the stupid AOL users, they don't know what they are missing.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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bry223
join:2001-09-16
Banning, CA
| No catchy title A big reason why most americans dont connect via a digital low latency connection such as cable or DSL is because ITS NOT AVAILABLE TO US. Do you think Adelphia will upgrade my lines anytime soon? Don't hold your breathe, hell my C/O is equipped with DSl but I live beyond the 18,000ft limit, some say prices are to blame, I say limitation is to blame. | |
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Sakairu
join:2002-04-22
| Here's a contributing problem...
The real hope for American government policy rests on the shoulders of the up and coming 20 and 30 year-olds who actually create and work with the technology in question.
I could drone on forever about the corporate greed, political corruption, republican corporate butt kissing, etc, et al. However, since no matter what I say really has an impact, and no matter how much I vote I will never be heard, I have to have faith in my peers to resolve this issue.
So take heart, fellow Americans--we'll get our widespread broadband in another 20 years or so. heh
My $.02.
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