  emlarueI'M A Kitten Love MePremium
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canada | Another one bites the dust Bye bye | |
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Personally I get 2100 down/121 up and it's quite nice. I just hope they don't sell us to d***heads like Cox or @home. | |
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| | | The evil part of me loves the fact Adelphia is about to crash since I am extremely mad how bad their service has been. First they force us to switch to digital by making the old analog service unviewable then the charge us more to use the digital cable. To save money and to get a new provider since Sprint ION was shutting down we got the complete package of cable and internet access. then the fun "we over sold our networks and you just happen to be one of the many people who get booted when everyone gets on" started happening. Needless to say in here (will do a review of the service soon) I got tired of it and finally went to Verizon since they could get us up and running quickly.
Ok enough of that for now. I hope they go down but not until I get to cancel out the service through them when I get the satilite installed soon. | |
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join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Hope the flames burn you all the way down Adelphia Couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people....
Put the Rigas Clan in jail!!!
They can all share the same cell!
Bawahahahahahaha.....
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| | | Re: Hope the flames burn you all the way down Adelphia "Couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people....
Put the Rigas Clan in jail!!!
They can all share the same cell!
Bawahahahahahaha....."
Wait, you want broadband yet you want them to go under? Seems like it's not a priority in your number 1 neighborhood. | |
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| | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Hope the flames burn you all the way down Adel Am I the one stringing the cable and fiber? No....
Adelphia's put a stop to that because of the cash crunch.
So, yes I want Cable Modems.... What part of "Adelphia can't hack it here" isn't clear to you by now....
You're hopeless....
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join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO | Rigas-Mortis
*singing* Dah-dah-dah - Another one bites the dust. *end singing due to overwhelming demand*
This is un-freakin-believeable - - - that another telecom company has played 'smoke and mirrors' with shareholders' investments, customers' services and employees' lives while 'a chosen few' are enriched beyond comprehension.
Boooooo! Hissssss! Shame on you!!!
Adelphia spelled backwards is Aihpleda. | |
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Re: Rigas-Mortis This money should be taken from the Rigas Clan, and redistributed to the poor souls who are probably getting their pink slips now....
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| | | | Re: Rigas-Mortis if this had been a private company there would have been nothing wrong with how the Rigas mismanaged the heck out of their company and funneled cash into "pet projects", the fact that it was a publicly held company though makes it far different.
the people who really deserve the cash are the stockholders who the Rigas have flat out stolen from.
yes i feel sorry for thoose empolyees who are gonna be checking the help wanted pages, and i hope for nothing but the best for them as well, but dont forget the stockholders who had their investment money spent by the Rigas family in a unlawfull manner | |
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| | | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Re: Rigas-Mortis This would also explain why whatever work Adelphia was doing to rollout Cable Modem service here in Los Angeles has ground to a halt....
The money that should have been spent on this was probably spent on the 18th hole sand trap....
Sigh...
Hope the flames burn you all the way down Adelphia....
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| | | | said by emhinkes:
This money should be taken from the Rigas Clan, and redistributed to the poor souls who are probably getting their pink slips now....
Reward the idiots who can't do a decent Cable Modem install, can't clean the dust out of a node, etc., etc., .... and otherwise just plain don't give a damn ???
For me anyway, it isn't the Rigas's that long ago gave Adelphia a bad name, it's the local employees who were and still are paid to provide and maintain local service -- and have failed in my area.
I don't have any sympathy for either the Rigas's OR the employees! | |
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join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Re: Rigas-Mortis I like your Darwinian view.... and upon further reflection and prior post perusal from others (You would know whom I'm talking about if you've read any of my other posts in the Adelphia Forum), I would like to announce that I agree with you 100%. Screw 'em all.
A cleansing of Coudersport must occur, and what makes experience the best teacher is that it's the toughest one. I think the whole town and all these Adelphia flag wavers in this forum need to see this "god like" figure fall from greatness and hit the pavement hard....real hard. He sold all of you Coudersport people out.... he sold us out as paying subs.... he sold out his investors. Disgraceful! Probably the most egregious act of self dealing from a bible thumper in the modern era.... This is on the order of Jimmy Swaggert.... Without the prostitute of course.... (Hey, who knows what's in those Adelphia books. They still haven't filed their annual report!)
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|  GNHTesla RecoiledPremium
join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX | said by bistro777:
Adelphia spelled backwards is Aihpleda.
Aihpleda guilty. | |
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Fort Worth, TX | Re: Rigas-Mortis lol... yep, guilty! | |
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Vancouver, WA | An era of unprecedented fraud Thank de-regulation advocates, corrupt campaign financing,and greedy CEO's for this debacle, and many more like it. The tax and spend Democrats were small time in comparison with the fraud and conspiracy Republicans.
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|  cpr2kThis Won'T Hurt..Premium
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San Marcos, CA | Re: An era of unprecedented fraud Tax and spend Democrats?? Fraud and conspiracy Republicans?? Geeesh.. Sounds like another candidate here for an adjustment in their medication..
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Vancouver, WA | Re: An era of unprecedented fraud said by cpr2k:
Tax and spend Democrats?? Fraud and conspiracy Republicans?? Geeesh.. Sounds like another candidate here for an adjustment in their medication..
Vodka Lemonade on the rocks, make it a double. | |
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| | Can't afford support? Interesting thought...
Last night I was dialing customer service to complain about horrible speeds and ungodly lag, and I got through immediately. According to the first guy on the phone, they had a bunch of new hires. Too little, too late. They still can't do anything to fix it, they claim it's a "problem with the backbone"
I think their problem with the backbone is that they haven't PAID their BILL... | |
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| | | Re: Can't afford support?
Adelphia has ruined a lot of people's lives. | |
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| | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Re: Can't afford support?
but only after they're stripped of every cent they have.... and I mean everything.
When people realize that there's no money in these acts, then they won't do them.
Lock 'em up, throw away the key, and make them watch TV on rabbit ears...
Bawahahahahahaha!.....
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| | |  xdeadhead220, 221, Whatever It Takes.Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
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| Re: Can't afford support? kinda makes ya wonder how the state of pennsylvania will fare cause the entire state was making a cutover to them instead of verizon. can a morally and financially bankrupt company still provide the quality service the state of pennsylvania demands? i bet not. verizon is only morally bankrupt, btw.
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Can't afford support? I'm sick of seeing these feel-good Adelphia ads...
I'm sick of seeing powerlink ads...
This company must go bankrupt! It will be the appropriate reckoning!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people.
Hope the flames burn you all the way down Adelphia.
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|  SunsetstripGo KingsPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-08
West Hollywood, CA | said by AngryChicken-PR0K:
it's a "problem with the backbone"
Yes,they don't have one  ...no morals,just greed | |
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| | Highfields ups stake to 9% »www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/···13da.txt
As of May 31, 2002, Mr. Grubman, in his capacity of a Managing Member of Highfields GP and Portfolio Manager of Highfields Capital Management, had sole voting and dispositive power with respect to all 20,489,191 Shares owned beneficially by Highfields GP, representing approximately 9.0% of the 226,683,000 Shares outstanding as reported in publicly available information (assuming the conversion of all of the CSNs held by Highfields). | |
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| cpr2kThis Won'T Hurt..Premium
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San Marcos, CA | Re: Highfields ups stake to 9% Did you notice where Highfields calls home??
Cayman Islands, B.W.I.
Hahahaha Gawd I love modern business..
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| | my poor broadband connection If Adelphia goes under, should I be ready to kiss my 2mbps+ powerlink connection goodbye, or is there any hope at all? Just wondering.. | |
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| | | Re: my poor broadband connection Zeke:
If you're like us here in Cleveland, we're not singing happy tunes right now about Adelphia Powerlink -- the network's down and been down all evening -- hell, even www.adelphia.com and www.adelphia.net are pulling up error messages!
I can't surf on my Cable Internet and I'm pissed. | |
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| | My Adelphia Powerlink connection - Is it me... ... or is my connection getting even more intermittent than before?
Technical support and customer service in general have always sucked a mountain of pink - astounding hold times, stupid support staff, ridiculous processes, e.g., reconfirming your address, operating system, and modem ID # each and every time you call that week.
("Why, yes - you caught me fair and square, I've moved, downgraded my OS to Win 3.1 and exchanged modems since my call earlier today. How astute of you to catch me.")
The one bright side of the service was the connection. When it worked, it was fairly reliable and, while the upstream side was an unimpressive 128K, the downstream wowed me at an average 2MB.
Now, the connection goes away for minutes at a time. The sync light blinking cheerily like a Christmas tree for ten minutes or so and then, for no apparent reason, comes back to solid.
Sigh. This decade seemed so good in theory back when I was in the fourth grade watching first runs of the Jetsons. What a letdown.
Hopefully the successor company will suck somewhat less than the current Adelphia. | |
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| | | Re: My Adelphia Powerlink connection - Is it me... Yes, I have noticed this exact same situation and I'm in Upstate NY.
Adelphia is a sinking ship and I guess we're front seat passengers. | |
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join:2001-03-18
Murrysville, PA | hey heeeey gooood bye Now if only alltel would follow them down in flames, my little podunk municipal government would have no choice but to bring in new telecom providers. Of course, these days, even the potential alternatives (for me ATT broadband, verizon) only sound marginally better. As a former adelphia cable subscriber (tv and data) I am full of schadenfreude. Amazingly, they had people walking our neighborhood two days ago looking to sign up new subscribers. I could hardly control my laughter. | |
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join:2001-04-18
RiverAcheron |  Aww Sh*t!!!
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Aww Sh*t!!! Exactly what I've been saying in the Adelphia forum! Go read my other posts there to see me rail against Adelphia's flag wavers!
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| ====++++====++++==== so do you think the Rigas family will win the World Cup? are they in a position to buy it?
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| | The Hills Aren't Alive With the Sound of Broadband Up here in Laurel Canyon (Los Angeles) I have been waiting for over 1 1/2 years for Adelphia, as Pac-Bell DSL discontinued their services almost 2 years ago up here. No satellite either (no Mac support). Please let one of the lesser evils (ATT/RR/etc...) buyout and release me from this 28.8 connection HELL!!!!!! | |
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: The Hills Aren't Alive With the Sound of Broad Exactly the situation we have here in West Los Angeles, 90049....
Hopeless....
No Cable Modem, No DSL, No Satellite.....
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| | The Golden Pain in the Ass
Was this $2 Billion or so amount of money ever reported on their bank statements? Probably so, in some obscure way.
What's ticking people off so much? The Rigas family is not saying a word, basically no one at Adelphia is saying a word. They're just going about their business.
Seeing how everyone across America thinks they're on a need to know basis, and no one knows jack stool, everyone has their drawers, panties, boxers and g-strings in a bunch and are hot under the collar.
What exactly is one of the biggest financial drains? We'll give the Rigas family mad prompts for the exhaustive paper trail they've left; in addition to their abundant shopping sprees and financial contribution to their kids "I want this" fund.
However, add to that the existing cable and internet systems. What people don't realize is there is new technology and old technology out there. The cost of upkeeping and upgrading is huge.
It's kind of like kicking out that old $200 refridgerator you bought 10 years ago, now you have to go out and buy a new one; respulsed to see that your new fridge now costs nearly double your old one.
So....Why sell California, Florida and Virginia? Basically these cities are years behind in their technology. The cost to upgrade is monumental. Does it make any rational sense to keep old technology in states where technology is booming? Probably not. Keep in mind too that it can't happen overnight and it takes money.
Which brings us back to square 1.
Was this $2 Billion or so amount of money ever reported on their bank statements? Probably so, in some obscure way; then why wasn't it investigated sooner? The person to ask...the Rigas family, of course. Where are they? Hiding would be my guess. | |
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| Re: The Golden Pain in the Ass >> First of all, would anyone have noticed anything Adelphia had done if ENRON had not existed?
Yes!!
Adelphia is making Enron quickly look like a blip on the radar.
The actions that the Rigas family made behind the scenes are nothing short of raping the shareholders who provided them the means to live as they did.
$3.1B in loans!?! That's more money than some countries allocate for their federal budgets.
What did they spend THAT MUCH money on? The Sabres? Some woodlands? That's a drop in the bucket.
Don't defend these guys, it makes you look foolish.
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join:2001-08-13
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| $15,000 installlation fee I should have seen something like this happening when Adelphia told me I would have to pay $14,000 to $15,000 to have cable installed at my house, even though the cable line would have run past 22 houses to get to mine! As you can guess I've stuck with my poor 41.2 connection.
I'm hoping that Adelphia does go out of business. Here is my take on the situation. Adelphia has no cash left. They can’t even make payments on their loans. Who thinks that they will be able to come up with cash to maintain or upgrade systems in the future, much less provide any support on those systems. It would be better to have them go out of business sooner rather than let them struggle along for months or years while the customers get screwed. My guess would be that if they go bankrupt their assets will be auctioned and other companies will be able buy up the pieces at rock bottom prices.
Perhaps if an Adelphia buy out occurs the new owners will be more receptive to running a line out to me. I wonder what they would say if I asked them to run a line out to me now.
Must really suck to be a shareholder right now unless you're covering your short sells. | |
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: $15,000 installlation fee I'm ready for the Adelphia firesale!!!
Bring it on! | |
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| | AHHH!!!! What's going on?!?! Is EVERY broadband ISP going down?? It seems every day there's a article here that an ISP is going bankrupt or shutting down... I am truly scared for broadband. | |
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: AHHH!!!! Soon, you'll have lots of choices. Your local Cable Monopoly, or your local Telco Monopoly. Both will suck, have bad service, and charge too much.
Welcome to the great broadband future... | |
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| vsyxx
join:2002-06-06
Miami, FL | Broadband shouldn't be failing at all! As an engineer that has worked on the inside, I have repeatedly seen the cause of these failures and it points to a few specific areas - sales and marketing and management. People want too much return on their money too soon these days, aka. greed.
If only the technical people were allowed to build a technology based company, most things would work fine. However, all too often sales and marketing pushes some vaporware product out there based on the vendor supplied glossies only to find that the vendor's were also pushing a soon to be released feature. Truly smoke and mirrors. This is often complicated by national size networks with disparate technologies inter-operating due to acquisitions; the transactions, of which, the technology people are usually omitted in the decision process. The VP gets the fat bonus for closing the deal and the engineers are left to clean up the sh*t.
I guess all of us are going to have to stop being sold on the sizzle. | |
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Adelphia They're feeling underpaid, overworked, and unappreciated...
Who's supposed to pay them? Rigas!!!!
Hmmm... That's funny... I feel overcharged, unimpressed, and unappreciated.
Pretty close if you ask me....
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| Welcome to My Nightmare... Some excerpts from my emails to Adelphia over the years.
Of particular interest are the dates and the "wecare@adelphia.net" email address.
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To: wecare@adelphia.net
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:14:33 -0500
Adelphia recent acquired Frontiervision in my town of Amesbury, MA. We had been told about a year ago (Feb 1999) that broadband was to be implemented "shortly". Upon calling the local Adelphia office recently, I was told that "they haven't told us anything and I don't think there is a firm plan". Is there a representative that I can speak to to find out the status?
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From: wecare@adelphia.net
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:14:33 -0500
Thank you for taking the time to E-mail Adelphia. It is always a pleasure to communicate with our customers.
There are tentative plans to launch broadband service this May. Adelphia will make every effort to keep customers informed on the progress of the upgrade.
If you do have any further questions you may stop by your local office or you may E-mail me at wecare@adelphia.net. Adelphia appreciates the opportunity to provide you with cable entertainment.
Sincerely,
Daniel D. Holcomb
Customer Relations Specialist
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E-Mail sent by me to Adelphia from Adelphia Website email 3/28/01
Very nice and flowery sentiments on the "Customer Care" Intro Page.
I have been speaking with your Local Office in Amesbury, MA 01913 for YEARS now about the availability of Broadband (Powerlink), only to be outright lied to (By Thanksgiving, 1999; in the spring...,Late summer...,etc. etc.)
I got Verizon DSL last October since that was the ONLY available option. Here we are 6 months along from there, (3 years after the initial promises)with still only excuses. You people are consistently rated at the bottom by
customers on www.dslreports.com. Maybe you should all go and read your "Customer Care" page again and re-acquaint yourselves with your goals.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
Either straighten up,or get out of the business.
[text was edited by author 2002-06-04 17:25:16]
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Welcome to My Nightmare... This is exactly what has been happening in 90049 too...
Except we can't get DSL either.
Read my other posts for the whole story.... Years of lies and deceit!
wedontcare@adeplhia.net is more like it.
Don't worry... I think they're getting out of the business.
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| | pslfl
join:2001-08-05
Middle Village, NY | Re: Welcome to My Nightmare...
Unfortunately,I am too far away from Bell South's CO to get DSL although I have a big telephone box outside of my house with a fiber optic cable.
I just hate the thought of going back to my slow poke modem.I haven't investigated Satellite TV and data yet.
Let's hope for the best !!!!!!! | |
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| | | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Welcome to My Nightmare... My gut feeling says that your assets will be picked up by somebody at a fire sale price....
Of course, that doesn't have to happen.... sigh...
No information, misinformation... It's all the same to me.
Counting the days as Adelphia thrashes about.
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| | Somebody might pick them up The one thing I think people are forgetting is that there is still a chance that some other company may buy them out, and that their cable and tv services may still continue. I live in the Cleveland, Oh area and have Adelphia for my tv service. I have a DSL line and was considering switching over to cable because from working with friends cable access I see that theirs is faster, but now I'm going to wait to see how things play out. Give it time...if there's money to be made by somebody then they will find a way to do it. Adelphia may be gone, but I can't see just not having cable tv or modem access in a big metropolitan area. | |
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| IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: Somebody might pick them up "I can't see just not having cable tv or modem access in a big metropolitan area."
Try moving to 90049 in the heart of the city of Los Angeles, CA.
What?....No Powerlink
What?....No DSL
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| | | | Re: Somebody might pick them up Just wanted to say that adelphia was the best company you could ever work for they paid for all the benifits!They may be taking a little out from every side but they did pass it on down in benifits!!!! | |
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| | | | | Re: Somebody might pick them up I install Powerlink for a living ( you know adelphia's semi water downed version of high speed broadband cable) I am not scared for my job since I work for a contractor, well the only one left in Buffalo I should say. I do not get upset to see they my go under or to see them replaced with a better service, but I tend to also look at what they have done for my city. They tried to breath life back into Buffalo and help the community strive for something better, that is not something I can overlook at times. So if you ask me am I happy to see them go down into flames I have to respond I am not sure.
All I do know is that I would Not touch a DSL conection in Westren NY because they all suck (have tested them all) and that a T-1 or better just realy isnt in my budget. So I will suffer with the lack of an Uploadspeed and Good DL speeds for now.
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