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Man I haven't seen that image for a looooong time!
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uranus | Re: Just what we always wanted... Biden said. "Every episode of "Seinfeld" is now available to download free to anyone with access to the Internet."
Well, it was free to begin with...and nobodies selling it...so what is wrong. | |
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Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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If you download it, then you don't see the commercials -- which is what the networks complain about. It's again, all about the cash...in this case ad revenue.
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| Re: Just what we always wanted... So what if i wouldnt watch the commercials on TV in the First place? Whenever i watch seinfeld on TV and commercial comes in , i always switch to another program.
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Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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| Re: Just what we always wanted... said by St0ney:
So what if i wouldnt watch the commercials on TV in the First place? Whenever i watch seinfeld on TV and commercial comes in , i always switch to another program.
There is no difference in me downloading a free television episode on the internet and watching a free episode on TV.
Well, I agree....
I think the Seinfeld thing is a pretty poor example considering the show is in syndication now and not in the current prime time lineup.
However, again -- this all comes down to the commercials. If you were to actually watch the commercials like you're supposed to (according to them  ) -- when you download, you don't see them...and thus their advertisers are less likely to buy air if their ads aren't being seen.
I imagine they also don't like you having copies of the episodes cause you are of course a pirate if you download them and therefore will sell them to the highest bidder, you terrorist!!!  Oh, and again to the ads...if you have them on your PC then you don't need to watch TV.
Just shows you that they can't come up with a sound argument ... ever.
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| Re: Just what we always wanted... said by Mashiki:
The thing is, I can see the execs now saying we need to mandate a reform in TV's so that people can no longer change channels when commericals come on, they are stealing revenue from us!
...and while they're at it, they need to make the TVs come with chairs that won't let you get up and leave the room when a commercial comes on. | |
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| Re: Just what we always wanted... said by TheWickerMan:
...and while they're at it, they need to make the TVs come with chairs that won't let you get up and leave the room when a commercial comes on.
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...and while they're at it, they need to make the TVs come with chairs that won't let you get up and leave the room when a commercial comes on.
How about this? We could have it mandatory for viewers to watch at least 8 hours of forced television mind expansion. Sit down, strap yourself in (literally) and have the image sent directly into your retina.
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Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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| Re: Just what we always wanted...
The 1984 reference is to George Orwell's book 1984. Which was actually written in 1948, and what coined the popular term "Big Brother is watching".
This particular image I believe was used in reference to the NSA, essentially implying that they wanted to institute a system similar to Big Brother.
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If this keeps up, we'll have to consider the New Dark Age option.
(Deus Ex reference.)
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What Country Are We Living In?
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| Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives I don't know, but lookng at some pitcures of them, they sure have a striking resemblence. Put a black beard and turban on Biden, and wa la. Similarily, take the beard and turban off of Bin Laden and again...
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How did I manage to read this as "Senator Bin Laden leads the Way" ??!?!?!!
Must be some form of paranoid dyslexia..
I did the same thing.
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| Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives said by shadow520:
said by P3TER:
How did I manage to read this as "Senator Bin Laden leads the Way" ??!?!?!!
Must be some form of paranoid dyslexia..
I did the same thing.
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| Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives said by vic102482:
dont woory I read it like that too! I am only 19 what is the deal with the 1984 stuff I was 2 then.
It's a book that predicted the total control of the population by the government, written by George Orwell (I think). The gov't tells you what you can THINK, as well as everything else. Very scary. Read it and you'll understand completely.
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All of you file sharers are deamon spawns of HELL and shall all be banished to PRISON FOREVER BWAH HA HA HAAAA!!!
Man I wish I had the money like these big boys do then I could make SENATORS do my BIDDING.
How many of you guys think he even knows what an MP3 is? | |
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| Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives said by vic102482:
Senator Bin Laden is practicing a new faith
How many of you guys think he even knows what an MP3 is?
I was wondering the same thing. Ten to one says this clown doesn't even know how to work a microwave. | |
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Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives LOL now that was funny. I just dont understand that they talk about digital piracy this and digital piracy that and you give him pc speakers and a computer and hes trying to plug them into the floopy disk drive slot. | |
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| Re: Some lawmakers need to get lives said by vic102482:
LOL now that was funny. I just dont understand that they talk about digital piracy this and digital piracy that and you give him pc speakers and a computer and hes trying to plug them into the floopy disk drive slot.
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clubs: | I'm assuming you opted for the new dark age option then? See, I took a more positive approach to it.
Man, who knew that the description to Deus Ex would read like todays headlines. Sorta depressing.
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| In further news....
Frankly, If I happen to have the ability to alter (any way I want) a piece of equipment that I overpaid for with my very own money then I shall!
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join:2001-02-14
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| You may end up having no other recourse than that little clause in the Constitution that states we may overthrow the government if it becomes tyrannical, oh wait, thats against "national security" interests.
amen to that..... but oops you can't say that or your a terrorist,, they can kiss my white luvin A!!. its about time somebody had a damn brain,,,, | |
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| Re: This comes as no big surprise.... said by johnwayne:
You may end up having no other recourse than that little clause in the Constitution that states we may overthrow the government if it becomes tyrannical, oh wait, thats against "national security" interests.
amen to that..... but oops you can't say that or your a terrorist,, they can kiss my white luvin A!!. its about time somebody had a damn brain,,,,
I agree to that. At the rate its going, a coup will become necessary.
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clubs: | I seem to remember getting taught that in grade school. Does anyone know where in the constitution is says that? | |
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| Unfrikkin' believable Why don't we just put the Hollywood moguls in that big white house in DC?
If this bill passes then innovation is stifled.
Just like before, the RIAA/MPAA seeks "COPYRIGHT PROTECTIONS" (MONOPOLY) and seeks to obtain it by forcing PC manufacturers, software manufacturers, artists, and consumers to pay for it.
Then, consumers can't even play them unless they have a "endorsed" machine that will play the media.
It's BS. Total BS.
Write your senators.
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join:2000-10-27
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| One Solution How many of you paid money to see Austin Powers this weekend? Judging by ticket sales a lot of us have. Well stop it. Stop buying their products. Stop giving them your hard earned money. They can't pay their lawyers and corrupt politicians to pervert our republic if we stop giving them our money.
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| Re: One Solution How many of you paid money to see Austin Powers this weekend? Judging by ticket sales a lot of us have. Well stop it. Stop buying their products. Stop giving them your hard earned money. They can't pay their lawyers and corrupt politicians to pervert our republic if we stop giving them our money.
in reply to "pervert our republic" we are not in a republic anymore since Abe Lincoln was assasinated. he presided over a republic until he created marshall law when the southern states tryed to leave the republic .. which put us in a democracy... then he was killed before he could resend his executive order.. and his v.p. was impeached so he couldn't do it either.... so thats why we have priveledges not rights...... sorry for the rampaige... | |
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How many of you paid money to see Austin Powers this weekend? Judging by ticket sales a lot of us have. Well stop it.
I wouldn't want to see that utter crap even if the MPAA PAID ME to see it. | |
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Delta, BC | hmm These are disturbing times we live in...
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ravital
Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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| Look who's running the asylum Add to all this Microsoft's Palladium, mentioned in the article, and it's the end of computing as we know it. Did anyone here get a letter from Bill Gates about it? I did, a long, long email explainig "trusted computing" which can be summarized as:
Don't use open source.
Don't use non-Microsoft Products.
Don't use anything we don't approve.
Besides, why should anyone be surprised, Senator BinLaden has long been one of the most successful prostitutes on the Hill.
You know folks, there really is an easy and painless solution to all this: No need to stop buying CDs if you like them, or DVDs or going to movies, etc. Just one little thing you have to do, and all you need to be able to do it is to be born in America: VOTE.
It amazes me that people stood in line 6 hours to give blood on Sep. 12 (my eternal admiration and gratitude to them), only to be turned away because the Red Cross already had too much blood, but they won't stand in line 20 minutes to vote.
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cbs228
Geeks Of The World, Unite
join:2000-09-04
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|  A Felony?
If you look on this page that lists felony offenses, you'll see that the overwhelming majority of criminal offenses listed there are, in fact, crimes against a person.
The deactivation of DRM software should not be considered a felony because it is not an aggravated crime against property. DRM is something that you do not want, has been forced on you, and doesn't work right anyhow. It is the pawn of the media giants and does more harm than good.
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| Ohh great Ok, now once people stop buying those products, who will to be to blame for the lack of economy? We all know RIAA will not be blamed.
Read your dollar, it DOES NOT SAY "In RIAA we trust"
Nor does it say "E PLURBUS RIAA" (From many, RIAA)
The RI stands for RETARDED and IDIOTIC (and IGNORANT too).
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Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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join:2001-07-19
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| PLEASE write your Senators Without much hope, I have just emailed my two senators, asking them to carefully consider this bill before they make a decision. I respecfully urge all of you to do the same. You are welcome to use my attached letter as a sample if you wish, change it, revise it, etc., I hold no copyrights on it. Please make sure you fill in the name of your senators and your own name at the bottom.
Thank you
P.S. To find an email address for your senator, if he/she has one, try www.senate.gov and click on link to list senators by state, alphabetically, whatever you prefer. Thanks again.
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Dirk Daring
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| Just WHO will buy this hardware? "The bill, is apparently the groundwork for a new age of media players that will only play tagged media..."
Just who will be buying this stuff?
Not me. Not you, at least I hope. I sure won't be buying crippled hardware. Thats like buying a microwave, putting a dish in it and it refusing to turn on because the dish was not 'certified'.
It's going to be pretty tough to enforce this when no one buys the hardware. And not only do you have to buy the crippled hardware, but also the crippled media.
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My advice is buy that DVD-RW and an extra CDR-RW now (as well as a couple hundred blank media). Who knows how long this nonsense will last.
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| Re: Just WHO will buy this hardware? said by Yowzaaah:
My advice is buy that DVD-RW and an extra CDR-RW now (as well as a couple hundred blank media). Who knows how long this nonsense will last.
I agree to a point with this. But if it seems that this kind of legislation is definatly going to become law, Then I ll buy a few burners and more like thousands of blank media. At the same time I ll stock up on blank media now before this issue creates a huge demand and causes skyrocketing prices on media. (supply/demand) | |
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2004: Smell the burning rubber as Joe Sixpack races to Circuit City for a $299.95 P5@10ghz.
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| Joe Biden irony This is the same guy who admitted to stealing, word for word, a speech made by a British politician back a few years. I guess it's true what they say; it takes a thief to catch a thief. I'll continue to download music, not as an act of thievery but as a protest to the recording industry and the movie industry. Not another penny for these wackers. I vowed never to vote for another Republican when they tried to impeach Billy Bigwand and now I'm ready to swear of of these boot licking Dems. Anybody got the website for the Libertarian party? | |
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join:2002-06-13
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| Crush Capitalism! Boycott the RIAA!
So, just how do they plan on enforcing this law? Are they going to go door to door asking people if they own an MP3 player? This is ludicrous indeed. They can not pass this law, simply because it is an outrage that they think they can control what kind of media you can play on an overpriced item that you buy with your own money. I already have CD's which I ripped into MP3 format to play on my riovolt. ALSO these MP3 players can hold up to 30GB of songs... Who can affoard to buy 30GB of crippled media for these crippled players? Who would want to? They are aiding in the downfall of the economy. The RIAA think that they run america. They don't. They think they can control web radio, too. Have they ever heard of freedom of speech? I really don't understand this corrupt government. They focus on Hollywood more than they focus on terrorism and hunting out Al Qaida. The RIAA should get a life. I am against the RIAA. Boycott the RIAA! Crush capitalism! lol oh well. »filthyfly.com
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| Here's a Little Information on Biden for You All I saw this while looking at some responses to a ZDNet article about these issues. It's interesting that someone who is so against is such a hyprocrite. It seems that Biden stepped down from his 1988 Presidential Nomination after plagiarizing another person's speech. This is too great.
Here is the article from ZDNet. Check out the two posts entitled: Sen. Joe Bidden steals IP in 1988. I was going to post the link directly to the comment, but it was a bit too long.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-946890.html
Oh well, why not just quote it. lol
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I didn't believe it, but I found some links.
That is just sooo funny. I figure the video of his public speech is public domain (or is he claiming copyright over it?!!), and I know the Neil Kinnock's speech is public domain. Can anyone digitize the two and put it out on the Internet please?
»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/po···iden.htm
"Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years;"
»www.hillnews.com/050201/hopefuls.shtm
"Another possible candidate, Biden, is known for his candor, but turns nearly mute on the subject of a possible candidacy. In 1987 he ran for the Democratic nomination but left the race when he was accused of plagiarizing a stump speech by British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock."
»www.americanpresident.org/KoTrai···ions.htm
"Senator Joseph Biden dropped out of the race after a campaign aide to Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis circulated a video showing that Biden had plagiarized speeches from British Labor Leader Neil Kinnock. "
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