 | | Short runway The Deathstar continue to milk something...?...come on, they wouldn't do that.
We won't see LTE anytime soon
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kudos:4 | Re: Short runway said by S_engineer:The Deathstar continue to milk something...?...come on, they wouldn't do that. We won't see LTE anytime soon It gets to be a simple cost calculation. If they are going to LTE anyway within 2 years, it will be cheaper to just go to LTE and skip the step to faster speeds by modifying existing technology. And the main cost isn't the hardware itself; it is the costs of techs to do 2 significant upgrades. Staff is limited and costs are high to climb those towers and switch out electronics.
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| Re: Short runway said by ThrowDemsOut:said by S_engineer:The Deathstar continue to milk something...?...come on, they wouldn't do that. We won't see LTE anytime soon It gets to be a simple cost calculation. If they are going to LTE anyway within 2 years, it will be cheaper to just go to LTE and skip the step to faster speeds by modifying existing technology. And the main cost isn't the hardware itself; it is the costs of techs to do 2 significant upgrades. Staff is limited and costs are high to climb those towers and switch out electronics. That's what T-Mobile is doing. Go T-MOBILE!
Skipping much of 3G deployment to focus on brining 4G.
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New York, NY | Re: Short runway said by Gbcue:said by ThrowDemsOut:said by S_engineer:The Deathstar continue to milk something...?...come on, they wouldn't do that. We won't see LTE anytime soon It gets to be a simple cost calculation. If they are going to LTE anyway within 2 years, it will be cheaper to just go to LTE and skip the step to faster speeds by modifying existing technology. And the main cost isn't the hardware itself; it is the costs of techs to do 2 significant upgrades. Staff is limited and costs are high to climb those towers and switch out electronics. That's what T-Mobile is doing. Go T-MOBILE! Skipping much of 3G deployment to focus on brining 4G. I have heard no news at all about Tmobile (usa) even talking about 4G yet. Do you have any links?
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| | | | | wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | Re: Short runway Not saying I disagree, however the first link says the parent of Tmobile USA (Tmobile) is going straight to LTE. This could mean the European markets only, but they dont clarify. The second link is fairly clear, but its from 2008 so thats my only issue with it. I havent seen any recent news discussing Tmo' USA is the only reason I bring this up. If you find anything else on the matter you should email it as news to the the site, I think a lot of people would be interested to hear about it.
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| | |  SSidlovOther Things On My MindPremium
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| Not so simple. Isn't Verizon also going to LTE? if that's the case, you don't want to have them on your network first or using phones that are faster than your own.
1. No one in the USA at least has a LTE phone, and won't for 2-3 years.
2. Metro areas are dying for faster speeds NOW with existing 3G phones which may relieve congestion. Back hauling will be cheaper since there is higher density, and towers could be visited twice quickly. Fix the metro areas so that you keep your millions of iPhone customers who are your bread and butter accounts with the $30/mo data plans +$50 phone plan and make them happy- there are lots of phones with better than 1.5mbs 3G already in use. If you want to keep them once someone else sells something as compelling as iPhones. (I don't have a iPhone, but I get almost a mb on my att phone tethered.)
3. Less populous areas never got 3G in the firs place and certainly don't have LTE phones but may have 3G phones. Maybe rolling LTE out there first would be beneficial since they will be 'ready' when LTE is available and you'll have much better coverage in the end.
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1 edit | backhaul capacity issues The problem is backhaul issues, the equipment can do it, its just not enough capacity. I say go full LTE, and enjoying cross-carrier capability, and economies of scale. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: backhaul capacity issues I agree. Go LTE, and just get it over with. | |
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| | | | Re: backhaul capacity issues said by tiger72:I agree. Go LTE, and just get it over with. Could have said the same thing about FTTH, but we all know which route they went down on that one. | |
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| Wonder what HSPA+ gear costs Might be a lovely deal if you're a rural carrier and could get the 80/20 stimulus funding for rolling out HSPA+ on all towers. Of course then you have to backhaul the stuff, but again the 80/20 grant would get you Motorola Canopy 150 mbit/s symmetric backhauls for a few thousand. Since said local carrier owns a good number of their towers, who knows? Might just catapult the area into first place as far as mobile broadband is concerned, or at least close to/even with WiMAX, albeit with higher latency. | |
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| No way Does anyone actually believe America in the next 3 years will even offer anything close to 21/5 over the air? I have hard time believing that with such crappy deployments of Wimax and LTE barely getting going and possibly being handicapped when finally put out there. For some reason corporations just don't get that they need to get their act together and get this technology into the field. They have been talking about data through phones and what not and how this is the future yet now it has come to that point and it looks like a good portion of them are not ready for it. I think Verizon has done better than most and have a pretty solid data network but for others they are hardly out the door on 3g I doubt they can get their act together and work on 4g anytime soon.
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sounds like tmobile will be owned by vodafone search the net lots of speculation on this one, I wonder if they will mearge tmobile and verizon here in the usa | |
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| | | Re: i think this is likely Some links on HSPA security plz.
I know HSPA modem can use WPA2/AES to connect to my machines, which is fine. But how does HSPA modem communicate with the 'CO's??? Are the data also encrypted??? or just 'plain' travelling in the air like radio???
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