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| All about money and control "But, really, all we want is a renewal deal with cable that gives us a bigger piece of the pie."
This quote sums up the attitude of corporate America, especially those in music/movie industry. Damn the consumer, or the business/innovation itself, just do WHATEVER it takes to reamain IN CONTROL and keep ALL the money. lol. Business is war, and dirty war at that.
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Go Chargers7
Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: All about money and control If the quote is even true. | |
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Go Chargers7
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| Yeah right quote:
"We'll play around with the Web to put a good face on it all," notes one anonymous executive. "But, really, all we want is a renewal deal with cable that gives us a bigger piece of the pie."
Such satire passed off as fact makes questionable credibility for the rest of the story which may well be true but most definitely is biased. I am disappointed that Mr. La Franco saw fit to insert this distraction and let be known in no uncertain terms where he stands on the issue. Leaves me wondering if any parts of this story have been omitted. Guess we will never know.
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Go Chargers7
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| Re: Yeah right A direct quote...no source...they don't even say what company he/she's from. I just don't buy it. Well established doesn't mean trust worthy...look at 60 Minutes.
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join:2002-02-24
Studio City, CA
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| Business model is flawed If you look at the Movielink site, it costs $4.99 to watch a single movie as much as you like for 24 hours. Now what incentive is there if I can just drive 5 minutes to the local Blockbuster and rent a DVD which has lots of extra material, costs less to rent, and which I can view longer than 24 hours. Remember Divx with their restricted viewing window, well Movielink just reaks of that stench. And you know what prevailed, DVD did, and not the Circuit City backed Divx.
And you also need to download the movie which they say is around 550mb each. If your internet connection is slow, it is way easier to just goto Blockbuster. | |
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Go Chargers7
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Business model is flawed Heck, at $4.99, Cable and Sat PPV is a good deal. | |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Business model is flawed said by Go Chargers7  :
Heck, at $4.99, Cable and Sat PPV is a good deal.
but with PPV you can tape it and watch it later. it doesnt mysteriously disappear off the tape in 24 hours. this business model stinks (along with those chemical DVD's that die within 72 hours of being opened) | |
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Overdrive
Are You Where You Want To Be?
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join:2001-05-31
Waterbury, CT
| My wife would love to use this with Twins on the way she isn't going to have time to get out and return that movie. Although i was thinking about netflix no late fees either.
4.49 per movie... sounds nice. What if you never get the entire download, is there a phone number to call to be re-imbursed?
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Klendathu
join:2002-02-24
Studio City, CA
clubs: | Re: Business model is flawed Netflix sounds like a better business model to me. Order stuff online and wait a couple of days and it's in your mailbox. Their prices are fairly reasonable too for the amount of DVDs you can rent out. | |
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Overdrive
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Waterbury, CT
| Re: Business model is flawed Shhh... it is going to be part of a mothers day gift for her... along with some other fun stuff. having Twins is going to keep her busy and I know those late fees from Blockbuster, etc are going to kill us.
there have been so many movies that we have returned late that we could have bought them out right.
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Derek_Wildstar
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| Re: Business model is flawed Glad to hear that you will be blessed with twins soon, Overdrive. I agree that you will be busy, but I would think that - barring any physical impairment - she shouldn't be so busy that she (or you, for that matter) wouldn't be able to leave the house for the 5-10 minutes that it takes to walk/drive to the video store, slip a video in the return slot and then return home. You could even do it while running errands, which I am certain needs to be done on a regular basis (grocery store, drug store, etc.)
It sounds like these are your first children. If that is true, take a piece of advice from a father of two: once you develop a routine, it won't be as difficult as you imagine. Not to say that there won't be any difficulties, just that you will adapt to the situation. Heck, a buddy of mine has TWO sets of twins, and he and his wife work outside the home; and with no family nearby to babysit them, either.
Or......are you merely using this situation as justification for buying something that you want? 
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Overdrive
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| Re: Business model is flawed Probably more like something We want.
wow 2 sets of twins.
yes our first(s).
We live 30 minutes away (total) and it is a pain to drive it. Netflixs allows us to have more than 1 movie at a time and for as long as we want, which means that If the kids are up and sick then we have to bring back the movie, or take the late fee hit.
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Derek_Wildstar
Why the fck is Shane walking in there?
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Iscandar | Re: Business model is flawed 30 minutes away from the nearest video store? Damn, that IS inconvenient. Oh well.... | |
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Orwell1984
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| Try Netflix from the east coast. All shipments leave and return to CA. It isn't such a good deal with a 7 to 10 day turnaround. And as far as paying $4.99 to get a movie I can only watch on my computer and only for a short 24 hours.Hard to stop laughing at that long enough to type. | |
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MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA
| Actually.... I have used Movielink and have nothing but good things to say about them. The downloads are fast, and for a 550 mb file, the quality is exceptional. I downloaded a few movies, hooked up my TV to the TV Out in my video card and piped the sound through my home stereo and it was just like a real DVD.
No late fees like everyone pays with blockbuster. I saw lower the price a buck or so. Let people keep the movies for 7-14 days (or even up to 30!) and it will make some good money. | |
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tastypoison
join:2000-10-16
Jacksonville, FL
| Re: Actually.... What is the format of the downloaded movies? What is the resolution and such?
550 Meg just sounds kinda small. SVCD's run ~800 Meg and it takes 2 SVCD's to capture a two hour movie. DivX gets the files smaller, but a HQ DivX copy of a two hour movie still usually fills a 700 Meg cd. | |
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| Re: Actually.... wonder if anyone has tried to capture the video feed out of the video card. Wouldn't that be a hoot!
headline in news "...Movielink found supporting pirated material! MPAA to sue! Film at eleven!..."
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MPScan
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Boston, MA | It's just a matter of time before M$ has their Digital rights Management (DRM) cracked. I'd put $100 on it that it will be cracked by 6/1/03. | |
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MPScan
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Boston, MA
| Format... They use Windows Media Video files (.WMV) which are supposed to be superior in quality and format, but as we all know they're unique to MS software. Anyways, they use the new Microsoft DRM (Digital rights Management) to acquire a license for the video file from a server and allow it to play. You can copy the file to another computer but can't open it or do anything unless you allow the computer to verify your ability to play the movie with the DRM server. | |
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tastypoison
join:2000-10-16
Jacksonville, FL
| Re: Format... So, I have to be connected to the internet before I can play the file? Yuck.
Unless I want to watch the movie on my 17 inch monitor, that won't work for me. I usually burn avi's to disk and use my laptop to play them on TV. My TV and cable modem are on opposite ends of the house.
I also thought this might be good for traveling...rent and download a vid for $4.99 before leaving...keep it on my laptop up to 30 days...hook the laptop to the tv in the hotel and save a few bucks. In my experience, in room video on demand rentals run about twice as much. But again - if this requires an internet connection at the time of playback, I'll just keep toting pre-burned cd's with me  | |
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join:2003-01-21
Miami, FL
| Re: Format... You just have to be connected when you start to watch the FIRST movie on a particular machine. After that, the rights are apparently established, and you can play that movie, or others you've downloaded, at another time when you aren't connected.
I do that, with the laptop SVID and stereo outs plugged into my main tv, and I couldn't tell it wasn't a rental from Blockbuster - except it "returns" itself, and I get no late fees. | |
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MPScan
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Boston, MA
| Yes, I neglected to mention that. However, here is the issue:
You have to connect to the 'net when you FIRST watch the movie and the rights are established. The problem is that Movielink makes you watch the movie within 24 hours after you first start playing. It can remain on your harddrive for a month before viewing, but once you start to view, you have 24 hours before the file is deactivated. | |
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Derek_Wildstar
Why the fck is Shane walking in there?
join:2001-02-24
Iscandar
| said by BellBoy :
So that's why Adam Sandler and Rob Schnieder are allowed to put out that drek in the theaters! It's all about what bones (very fitting term here) to throw the cable/sat companies to appease them. This way they have some crap time filler to give them for the blockbusters that the stations want (Spider-Man, etc.) that are few and far between.
Actually, the reason that studios keep slopping out the dreck from Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider is because they make money for the studios, period. It's the same reason that the keep pounding out "reality" shows: because enough people watch them to turn a profit. So movie lovers like you and I can still watch quality movies like The Hours, The Gangs of New York or My Big, Fat Greek Wedding and quality TV shows like "CSI" and "The Sopranos", and choose to do something else during "Jackass" or "Survivor".
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join:2003-02-04
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| This seems good in theory... I think its good in theory, but I they would get alot more renters if they didn't charge $5 a movie or gave it longer then 24 hrs. 24 hrs is simply too short. $5 isn't bad for a new release since people forget gas costs money when you drive somewhere, not to mention time. We'll see how this pans out..... | |
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