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28% Of Mobile Users Now Have Smartphone
While Apple now has 28% smartphone OS market share
by Karl Bode 07:57AM Tuesday Nov 02 2010
The worldwide mobile phone market grew 14.6% in the third quarter of 2010 according to IDC, with vendors shipping 340.5 million phones during the quarter. Smartphone growth continues to explode globally, and here in the States new data from Nielsen suggests that 28 percent of U.S. mobile subscribers now have smartphones. Among those who acquired a new cellphone in the past six months, 41 percent opted for a smartphone over a standard feature phone, notes the firm. According to Nielsen, Apple now has a 28% market share to the RIM Blackberry OS 30% share of the smartphone business -- while Android is now at 19%.

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iPhone market

It'll be interesting to see how many iPhones Verizon sells when it comes out, and if Verizon is up to the task of all those new users at once.

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Re: iPhone market

The stats are all wrong. Where is this guy getting 19% market share for android? From 2008?

Thanks to continued high-profile handset introductions, the Android smartphone operating system (OS) significantly grew its lead in the U.S. consumer smartphone market in the third quarter (Q3). According to The NPD Group, a leading market research company, Android's OS was installed in 44 percent of all smartphones purchased in Q3, an increase of 11 percentage points since Q2; Apple iOS held relatively steady versus last quarter, rising one percentage point to 23 percent; RIM OS, fell to third position, declining from 28 percent to 22 percent.


»www.npd.com/press/releases/press_101101.html

Edit: older link that shows android had the largest market share earlier this year: »www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/npd-···tphones/

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Re: iPhone market

You are misunderstanding the data. Current marketshare is 19% for Android (IE, numer of phones in use today). The numbers you quoted were sales in the last quarter. Those sales indicate growing marketshare, but are not the same as absolute (current) marketshare.

This does indicate that Android (outselling iPhone 2-1) is curerntly on pace to overtake both RIM and Apple in total marketshare at some point.

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Re: iPhone market

said by Jay Kresge :

Current marketshare is 19% for Android (IE, numer of phones in use today).
I want to see a citation on the 19% total market share.
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Re: iPhone market

Did you read the links in the article?

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Re: iPhone market

Did you see the Q3 '10?
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Re: iPhone market

said by Alcohol:

Did you see the Q3 '10?
That sure looks like the quoted numbers to me...

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Re: iPhone market

Nielson's numbers seem off to me. I don't buy the 19% market share of android.

Jay Kresge

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Yup, it says 19%. Are you getting it now?

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Re: iPhone market

see below

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Re: iPhone market

It's a shame really. Seems you're letting your pride get in the way of your intelligence.

Yes, Android has roughly 19% of the CURRENT US market. However, over the last 3 months, nearly half of all smartphones sold were Android, which caused the leap. Because last quarter, Android was estimated to be about 12% of total marketshare. They've made a HUGE leap this year. Really, the release of the Moto Droid last November is what started to propel Android.

What you're not seemingly able to grasp is that the 19% marketshare is of CURRENT share. For example, my wife bought her iPhone 4 in June. That's outside of the last quarter's sales. Does that mean that my wife, who still uses her phone, doesn't count? Incorrect. She's part of the total picture, but not the last quarter.

The numbers are correct. Hopefully, you'll figure it out, because numerous people here have helped to explain it in various ways. But honestly, I don't think it's intelligence causing you to not grasp this. I think it's the fact that you may just be a fanboy (either for Google or against Apple) and you truly want to believe that Android has already accumulated 40+% of the total market, which they clearly have not. They'd have to keep their current pace for 2 more years for that to happen.
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Re: iPhone market

quote:
For example, my wife bought her iPhone 4 in June
Sorry to hear that. Both you and your wife have my deepest sympathies. I’ll keep both of you in my prayers

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said by Jay Kresge :

It's a shame really. Seems you're letting your pride get in the way of your intelligence.

Yes, Android has roughly 19% of the CURRENT US market. However, over the last 3 months, nearly half of all smartphones sold were Android, which caused the leap. Because last quarter, Android was estimated to be about 12% of total marketshare. They've made a HUGE leap this year. Really, the release of the Moto Droid last November is what started to propel Android.

What you're not seemingly able to grasp is that the 19% marketshare is of CURRENT share. For example, my wife bought her iPhone 4 in June. That's outside of the last quarter's sales. Does that mean that my wife, who still uses her phone, doesn't count? Incorrect. She's part of the total picture, but not the last quarter.

The numbers are correct. Hopefully, you'll figure it out, because numerous people here have helped to explain it in various ways. But honestly, I don't think it's intelligence causing you to not grasp this. I think it's the fact that you may just be a fanboy (either for Google or against Apple) and you truly want to believe that Android has already accumulated 40+% of the total market, which they clearly have not. They'd have to keep their current pace for 2 more years for that to happen.
Yeah.

»www.engadget.com/2010/11/10/gart···y-the-b/
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said by Alcohol:

Did you see the Q3 '10?
Yes.
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Huh. This seems to indicate that the social app developers who do it first for iPhone were "sort of right all along", except that there might be a slight skew towards more market share of Android with younger users compared to older users? I don't know. But it answers my questions. I don't dispute the #s.

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Click the "Nielsen" link in the original Article. Nielsen provides two numbers. They claim 19% current marketshare for Android, and 41% sales over the last quarter (nearly matching the 43-44% number you provided).

Like I said, sales over the last quarter is NOT marketshare. The numbers you quoted are correct, but you're misinterpreting them.
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Probably. I'm not fan of Verizon but no provider can fuck up anythig as bad as AT&T can. They SUCK!
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one day

someone will find a way of putting android on an iphone, then the marketshare could double. short of that- verizon's contribution won't push the market of iphones beyond another 10-15%, as most of Verizon's win, is at&t's loss.

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Re: one day

Android has already been put on the iphone.

»www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/andr···-iphone/

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a gillion

people have smart phone but only .001 percent actual use it. every kid has a black berry..

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Re: a gillion

Wrong.

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said by i1me2ao:

people have smart phone but only .001 percent actual use it. every kid has a black berry..
Really, "a gillion"?
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said by i1me2ao:

people have smart phone but only .001 percent actual use it. every kid has a black berry..
I doubt it. I got my first smart phone when the Droid came out- I didn't think I'd have much use for the features as I have Internet at home and work, and don't need one for my job. I mostly liked the free GPS navigation. Saved me the trouble and expense of buying a navigation system and a new phone.

Now I use it every day, though I seldom text and don't make or recieve many calls on it. Once people get one, they'll be using it.

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Re: a gillion

said by dynodb:

I doubt it. I got my first smart phone when the Droid came out- I didn't think I'd have much use for the features as I have Internet at home and work, and don't need one for my job. I mostly liked the free GPS navigation. Saved me the trouble and expense of buying a navigation system and a new phone.

Now I use it every day, though I seldom text and don't make or recieve many calls on it. Once people get one, they'll be using it.
My first was the PPC-6800, then switched to the HTC Touch Pro (w/latest EnergyROM). After at&t takes over Alltel here (1st of the year), I'll be looking into a pair of Droid2's.

I swear, I couldn't go back to a plain phone if I tried. I'd go crazy.
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said by i1me2ao:

people have smart phone but only .001 percent actual use it. every kid has a black berry..
Since "a gillion" is colloquially termed "A unit of counting that equals a billion million. The cardinal number equal to 1000000 x 1000000000", .001% still equals 1 trillion smart phone users.
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as the numbers gets higher

and more peole are paying for mandatory data plans and USING that data and they see how littel data they get for their money these companies will either have to lower data rates or stop making data mandatory.

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Re: as the numbers gets higher

said by 88615298:

and more peole are paying for mandatory data plans and USING that data and they see how littel data they get for their money these companies will either have to lower data rates or stop making data mandatory.
That's what the lower cost data plans from most providers are for.
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Re: as the numbers gets higher

said by Gbcue:

said by 88615298:

and more peole are paying for mandatory data plans and USING that data and they see how littel data they get for their money these companies will either have to lower data rates or stop making data mandatory.
That's what the lower cost data plans from most providers are for.
"Lower cost" is subjective. Charging 100X cost is hardly lower. Show me a $15 plan with 10 GB WITH tethering and $1 per GB overage. Then maybe we'll be talking about a "low cost" plan. I doubt we'll see a plan like that before 2020 if ever.

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Re: as the numbers gets higher

said by 88615298:

said by Gbcue:

said by 88615298:

and more peole are paying for mandatory data plans and USING that data and they see how littel data they get for their money these companies will either have to lower data rates or stop making data mandatory.
That's what the lower cost data plans from most providers are for.
"Lower cost" is subjective. Charging 100X cost is hardly lower. Show me a $15 plan with 10 GB WITH tethering and $1 per GB overage. Then maybe we'll be talking about a "low cost" plan. I doubt we'll see a plan like that before 2020 if ever.
No. "lower cost" isn't subjective, it means the $ amount is lower.

I believe you're looking for the term "lower value". The lower priced data plans have lower value, worthless.

You're looking for something "higher value", "$15 plan with 10 GB WITH tethering and $1 per GB overage." I would go with a $15 plan with 10GB because I'll never get to 10GB and would dump my $25 unlimited plan. This mythical $15 is worth more to me, higher value.
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said by 88615298:

"Lower cost" is subjective. Charging 100X cost is hardly lower. Show me a $15 plan with 10 GB WITH tethering and $1 per GB overage. Then maybe we'll be talking about a "low cost" plan. I doubt we'll see a plan like that before 2020 if ever.
Oh, we had unlimited plans with tethering at one point in time. Unfortunately, they found that data was eating into their voice minutes and had to stop it. So they ditched the unlimited plans, forced everyone into absurdly limited plans, and charged a ridiculous price for it to counterbalance the lower voice usage.

I'm sure killing off the land-line didn't help matters, either. It just added more reasoning to their "charge more, get less" plan. Wait, we're talking at&t, right?
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