DSL Trash TalkingVerizon dismisses AT&T bundle plans ( old news - 06:47PM Thursday Jul 31 2003) tags: dsl · prices Verizon is apparently unimpressed with AT&T's announcement this week that they would be bundling DSL, local, and long distance services. Verizon's trash talking division, while being interviewed by Internet News, called AT&T's offering "several popsicles short of a full box." "Our bundled DSL offer is $29.95 period with no price jumps or surprises. One bill is available to millions of our customers, not in just one state, and not 'eventually,'" Verizon spokeswoman Bobbi Henson says. Analysts meanwhile, doubt the AT&T bundle will have a very large impact on incumbent sales, particularly with some comparable telco bundles running $10 to $15 per month cheaper.
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DHRacer
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| Period? You have to be a Variations customer for that price! Period. More like comma.
Dumb! I've been watching SBC ads for everything-but-the-kitchen-sink but they don't offer dsl included for the 50 a month price.
Relatedly, I just got a letter from Verizon stating that the FCC is allowing them to reabsorb VADI back into Verizon. So maybe there's one less person to blame now about the DSL service we get. Not like it's going to increase the chances of getting any service upgrades in the near future to the full T1 speeds that everyone pays for but not everyone gets.
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Tony
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| Re: Period? said by DHRacer  :
You have to be a Variations customer for that price! Period. More like comma.
Not to be critical but take another look at the article and you will notice that he does say bundled.
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DHRacer
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| Re: Period? Quote from article:
Verizon has issued a chilly response to AT&T's announcement yesterday that it would sell bundled services in New York.
"Our bundled DSL offer is $29.95 period with no price jumps or surprises. One bill is available to millions of ourcustomers, not in just one state, and not 'eventually,'" Verizon spokeswoman Bobbi Henson told internetnews.com. "AT&T's new offering is several popsicles short of a full box."
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Sell the services in New York and that is "not in just one state" itself?
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Pathfinder
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Mount Vernon, NY | Re: Period? What are you saying? Verizon's freedom packages are available all over not just in NY.
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Tony
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Sell the services in New York and that is "not in just one state" itself?
Right.
AT&T is marketing this package in the Empire state.
AT&T, based in Morristown, N.J., said it would offer DSL service (through Covad Communications) along with local and long-distance service to its customers in the Empire State, which an eye toward rolling out to a dozen other states.
The verizon deal is available nationwide.
Hence the comment
"Our bundled DSL offer is $29.95 period with no price jumps or surprises. One bill is available to millions of our customers, not in just one state, and not 'eventually,'
Period.
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calvoiper
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| Re: Period? The Verizon deal isn't "nationwide"--I can't get it because Verizon continues to refuse to compete against SBC.
Market division, on of the "per se" antitrust violations, is a crime when anyone other than a Baby Bell does it.
When Verizon drops its "territory fixing" agreements with SBC, Qwest, and Bell South and really competes for customers, then we'll see what kind of company they are. Until then, they remain a monopoly too chicken to duke it out with the other big guys....
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Tony
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Natrona Heights, PA | Re: Period? Good point Calvoiper. Thanks for pointing that out. Should of put a disclaimer "not available in all area's". | |
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| It not that Verizon refuse to compete with SBC. Verizon has to get the new bundling plans approved by each state's PUC before they can offer it. Example: Here in Texas SBC came out with a plan that bundled local call, local toll calls, long distance, and other calling features this past spring. About 2 month after that, Verizon started offering the "Freedom" package in Texas. At some point the "Freedom" package will be "nation". Just give Verizon time. | |
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calvoiper
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| Re: Period? said by JeremyRM :
It not that Verizon refuse to compete with SBC. Verizon has to get the new bundling plans approved by each state's PUC before they can offer it. ....
This misses the point entirely and is total hogwash besides.
The point is that VZ won't compete "out of territory"--yes, it's in Texas--in old GTE territory. Ivan won't take on Big Ed--it's part of a "wink, wink" strategy to avoid the biggies competing with each other. (VZ promised to compete as part of one of its merger authorizations, but has not complied with its promise. Of course, the FCC doesn't seem to care.) VZ wants to keep its own monopoly status "in territory", so it doesn't challenge SBC, Bell South, or Qwest on their own turf--that way they don't challenge VZ either.
On the claim that these new pricing plans need to be individually approved, almost every state has eliminated the old extensive process of "prior approval". If there is any way the new plan can be considered a price decrease, it is automatically allowed to go into effect in most states.
It's not any state regulatory environment that's stopping the Baby Bells from competing against each other--it's only their reluctance to compete with a true peer that's holding them back
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA | Well, with all the fighting At least they aren't taking the Comcast approach to bundle discounts. Which is raise the HSI price $15 today, then claim you get a $15 discount if you bundle. | |
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J D McDorce
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Westland, MI | Unimpressed? AT&T's $39.95 for 384 isn't exactly going to set the world on fire... | |
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| Re: Unimpressed? you know why? because most people thatlive in newyork dont even use a normal phone anymore everyone has cell phones most just play for a phone line soo they can have the internet... lol a phone line in NY isnt needed anymore Cell phones are the thing now a days | |
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devrandom
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join:2003-06-28 | Add more gas Maybe somebody can throw some fuel into the fire, because this might end up in some good deals for consumers, pushed in the right direction.
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AkumalDave
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| withdrawn Oops. Misread the quote, which was actually by Verizon, not AT&T. Sorry about that - but I feel better after the rant.
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58483323
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| SBC is expensive I know this isn't about SBC but local phone service from the bells is expensive. I have SBC and my monthly bill for local service is $50-60 a month (just local, add long distance and its expensive) and if I can get UNLIMITED Local and Long Distance for 49.99 a month on ONE bill, i'll take it! It's going to be 49.99 a month no matter what. I'll never see any suprises or anything. I'm talking about AT&Ts One Rate USA local plan. I'm going to wait until the end of the year for DSL service in Chicago because SBC is too expensive. And SBC's DSLs rates are $49.99 for 1500/128, the same as AT&Ts. | |
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