  phxmark What Country Are We Living In?
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| I wish it would stop this...
This last visit to here, I accidentally type [a bad-website, variation on dslreports] as the URL and ended up someplace totally wrong.
I hate it when companies and people take advantage of mistyped URLs, which in some cases will hijack your browser. -- Still living on Dial-Up. [text was edited by moderator] | |
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| I have noted the Internet has slowed
I can't decide if NetSol/VeriScam is to fault but in the past few hours the entire Net has slowed waayy down. I feel this could be that VeriSign's wildcard in the words of Scotty ... kanna take the strrr...ain... she's gonna blow kaptian.
If all tld have to be verified by NetScum/VeriScam, eventually their servers will melt. Oh course nobody here is going to out of their way to misspell 1,000's of URLs
Hmmm, a cyber-Flash Mob 
In the words of Bob Newhart ".. but that would be wrong..." | |
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| Re: More News... said by DALarose : »news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5077530.html
Die NetSol, you gravy sucking pigs
in your previous message you complained of speed problems. While I agree Verisign has done an unethical and technically dangerous thing.. wasted space, and bandwidth such as this only compounds the problem.
Use that preview button and ask yourself every time... The whole internet is holding it's breath waiting to hear what I have to say... Do I really want *this* to be what they get? -- Scott Johnson -- developer of MWall. Contact me for more information. | |
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| Re: More News... I post a relevant link, and post a 6 word editorial comment to which in 67 words you preach bandwidth conservation... hmmm kettle here!
»www.circleid.com/article/260_0_1_0_C/
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| Re: More News... said by DALarose : I post a relevant link, and post a 6 word editorial comment to which in 67 words you preach bandwidth conservation... hmmm kettle here!
»www.circleid.com/article/260_0_1_0_C/
another link, on topic
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| For these type of business practice I do not & will not ever use and or reccomend there service. I would also like to see their domain management rights revoked. -- My Home Page Latest Harley News | |
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| Re: I wish it would stop this... May apology; wrong thread. [text was edited by author 2003-09-18 23:27:31] | |
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| Crappy..but. It was only a matter of time. Put that much power in the hands of a private organization, and sooner or later they will use it to their advantage, regardless of the problems it causes for the real world. -- AMD XP2500+ @2300mhz/ Asus A7N8X Deluxe rev 1.04/ 2x 512Mb Kingston HyperX PC3500/ WD 120Gb on serial/ Gainward GF4 4600/ Enermax 465P-VE/Custom water cooler | |
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| Re: Crappy..but.
Put that much power in the hands of a private any organization, and sooner or later they will use it to their advantage, regardless of the problems it causes for the real world.
Let's not make the the assumption that absolute power corrupts only private corporations. { see dept. of homeland security }. | |
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| Re: Network Solutions Does it again It took me 5 months to resolve a fraudalent billing charge from Network Solutions, a Verisign company. I would NEVER NEVER NEVER do business with them again. I canceled a domain with them in May and transfered it to GoDaddy, they still persisted to bill me, even after my exact words were "cancel my entire account". | |
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| Re: Network Solutions Does it again said by Maggs : they still persisted to bill me, even after my exact words were "cancel my entire account".
Yea, the word "cancel" to most companies means about the same as the words "free" and "unlimited." -- Jewel got Britney-fied! There is hope for the world yet! | |
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Thanks Vericrap, this is total BS. | |
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| Re: Network Solutions Does it again said by KrK : Thanks Vericrap, this is total BS.
Verisign got you down? GO DADDY!!!!
Seriously though, I've been using Go Daddy for over a year now, and they are EXCELLENT. I was amazed that when I got hosting for one of my domains, the DNS propagation took only about 6 hours, as opposed to the 3 daze it takes for Verisign. -- Jewel got Britney-fied! There is hope for the world yet! | |
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join:2001-02-25 Mimbres, NM | Ditto. | |
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  aggiejy Premium join:2002-07-10 Wimberley, TX | Appalled That is abuse... I sure as hell won't be doing any business with them. | |
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| Re: Appalled I agree, but I guess it's better than being redirected to a site with endless popups or porn. If there is even a good way to look at it. ------------------------------------------------------
You DONT UNDERSTAND!
Any www.xxxx.whatever you type that does not EXIST sends you to their website to buy it! | |
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join:2001-04-30 San Jose, CA
| This is the largest cybersquating case in history! This has just got to be illegal!!!! I myself use wildcards for secret sections of my websites. My server looks at the header and fwds it to the proper page. (Not wanting to have that zone published for the world to see)
Verisign is scum, scum, scum, scum!!!!!!!!!!!
The are the same folks who want to sell domain names lottery style and keep all the cash.
I'll be sending several emails to these folks, along with a few calls. They are going to have to call PacBell to block my # I am going to be on them so much! This is just UNREAL!!
This is the largest cybersquating case in history!
Anyone who has their domains parked at verisign I urge you to transfer them elsewhere.
Hackers, get the drones ready for one heck of a dos attack!
Hummm, better yet, a chainsaw to verisigns trunk lines might give them a better clue! | |
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| Re: This is the largest cybersquating case in history! As much as I disagree with Verisign's actions (and feel secure that their decision will be reversed), I think that it's not such a good idea to promote DOS attacks in general. Especially considering that most DOS attacks depend upon thousands of compromised machines. You are, by a couple of degrees of separation, condoning cracking. Just food for thought. -- ( `( ¯`( ¯`·._ Death Ring _.·´ ¯ )´ ¯ )´ ) - Visit Deathring.us for Drinking Games, Mixed Drinks, Hot-Or-Not, Girls, Games, Cheats, Hacks, Topsites, and AIM Utilities. | |
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| said by kilingspam :
> Hackers, get the drones ready for one heck of a dos attack!
Hummm, better yet, a chainsaw to verisigns trunk lines might give them a better clue!
See my comment earlier about the internet holding it's breath. *shakes his head* -- Scott Johnson -- developer of MWall. Contact me for more information. | |
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| if my memory serves me correctly Wasn't versign busted for sending out misleading letters to domain owners that their domains were going to expire, and that they should renew through verisign.. this is bullcrap people...
Any company that conducts business like this should be bombed, burned to the grounded, and sued for being a a dirty company. -- AMD 2500, 1024 MEG PC 3200, 180 GIG HDD, MSI KT4 Ultra Board, MSI GEFORCE 4 TI 4600 | |
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| Re: if my memory serves me correctly said by technick : Wasn't versign busted for sending out misleading letters to domain owners that their domains were going to expire, and that they should renew through verisign.. this is bullcrap people...
Yes. I was one of those people. I was quite amused that their "special" price was more than the price of the other registrar (DirectNIC) I had gone with. -- -Jason Levine http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/ http://www.PCQandA.com/ http://www.urateit.com/ | |
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| Don't be fooled if you think that versign is only culprit, actually register.com is getting sued for the similar thing when they created this "coming soon" on newly registered domain names which they intention put links or advertised their services on the coming soon page. -- www.alltechneeds.com "Your Everyday Hosting Needs" | |
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| Email sent... Not that they'll ever see it (I imagine their mail boxes are full, already), but sent a complaint email to Verisign. Gotta go file a complaint with ICANN, next.
For what it's worth, you can complain to ICANN about Verisign at this page.
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To: shollenbeck@verisign.com; mlarson@verisign.com; wmitchell@verisign.com; ssclavos@verisign.com Subject: Verisign Hijack Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:17:15 -0700
did not reach the following recipient(s):
wmitchell@verisign.com on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:17:40 -0700 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=verisign;l=MOU1WNEXC010309161917S0QQ8RAQ MSEXCH:IMS:VERISIGN:HQ:MOU1WNEXC01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient -- "I'm respecting your privacy as an individual by knocking, but I'm asserting my authority as a parent by coming in anyway."--Fairly Odd Parents | |
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| Can I sue? Anyone know a good lawyer? Couldn't I sue since www.(myname).com now resolves to something without my permission (just like Madonna and corporations)? Or because mispellings of my domain name go elsewhere (haven't courts found that this is illegal in some cases)? Has anyone heard of anyone actually trying to stop VeriSign rather than just complaining about it? [text was edited by author 2003-09-16 13:48:29] | |
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| What the... What happens when you are changing DNS servers for your domain? It will redirect to VeriSign's site index page. People will think that your site has shut down or was sold.
I'm sure VeriSign can make a pretty penny if they decided to put up ads. | |
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  oliphant5 Got Identity? Premium join:2003-05-24 Corona, CA | I'm a n00b but How are they (verisign) able to handle all of these errant requests? Wouldn't it be like an ultra-massive DoS attack? | |
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| Re: I'm a n00b but not at all since the requests have less headroom to move to it actually takes less usage to do it. and the usage is about 1/8 th of a normal dns look up request.
so in essence yeah it's like a dos but it would take 8 times the traffic to show any sign of load up on thier systems. all requests would be loopback look ups and actually use very little bandwidth as well.
I personally love godaddy and we use it alot for a couple bucks less per name. they have yet to faulter.
Ohhh yeah anyone else thinking this may lead to a free dns style network where the new dns could ignore dns tables from verisign ??? now that would be a sweet reward for the people  -- Need a web host try us at www.servercentral.net... message me directly and we can make you some killer deals. | |
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| In a related matter... My domain name is currently registered with Network Solutions, and they host my mail service. As I do not have a web site for my business, they decided (without informing me) to reroute anyone attempting to access my not-yet-existing site at www.(MyDomain).com to their own advertising page. Their "solution" to this situation is for me to hire them to host a web site that indicates that I have no web site. Aghhhhhhh....... [text was edited by author 2003-09-16 14:16:26] | |
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join:2003-05-21 Woodland Hills, CA | Re: In a related matter... Well, first thing, move your domain name to a different registrar. | |
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| Re: Use OpenNIC instead of Verisign That's all well and wonderful, and I haven't used verisign for years but...
what they have done is cause any domain that is within the .com or .net domain that wasn't registered before get resolved to one of their web pages.
esentually they did:
[all valid .net and .com domains] *.com = verisigns host *.net = verisigns host -- FWD: 28683 | |
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| An interesting story... A while back Verisign asked some of its customers to come in and be a part of some focus groups. They were offering to pay $50 or $100 (or something like that) in cash to each participant at the end of the meeting. The point of the focus groups was to help Verisign determine why they were losing market share (or were losing out) to other companies when it came to personal (and I think small business) domain name registrations.
Needless to say, some interesting things came from the meetings. At the time of the meeting, a couple of the folks in my group were no longer Verisign customers; a few others were in the process of switching some of their domain names from Verisign to other registrars. A number of people blasted Verisign's customer service for everything from billing issues to having to navigate a labyrinth to get an actual customer service rep on the phone.
It appears that some time after all this input was made to Verisign, they still haven't made any changes. They're still up to their usual tricks, and still annoying people with potentially problematic business practices. That's too bad...
Ironically, as a result of going to this meeting and participating, I learned about GoDaddy from one of the other participants. Since then, I have switched my one domain that was with Verisign over to GoDaddy and have registered another couple there as well. Once I left Verisign, I never looked back. And now that they're doing things like this which will make it that much more difficult to stop spam, I never will.
I can understand why Verisign would want to do what they're doing (free advertising), but that does not mean I disagree with it any less than anyone else. -- Cox cable: the hallmark questionable business practices and lousy cable service! | |
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been getting nothing but timeouts from the verislime redirection webpile. heh. wonder if someone is dos'ing them? | |
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| E-mail Bounced :-)
I sent an e-mail to Verisign exec W. Mitchell bounced back to me; here is the message transcript:
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Your message
To: wmitchell@verisign.com Subject: Woohoo! Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:00:57 -0700
did not reach the following recipient(s):
wmitchell@verisign.com on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:02:32 -0700 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=verisign;l=MOU1WNEXC010309161902S0QQ8PNC MSEXCH:IMS:VERISIGN:HQ:MOU1WNEXC01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient
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Muhahahhah! -- ( `( ¯`( ¯`·._ Death Ring _.·´ ¯ )´ ¯ )´ ) - Visit Deathring.us for Drinking Games, Mixed Drinks, Hot-Or-Not, Girls, Games, Cheats, Hacks, Topsites, and AIM Utilities. | |
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| Re: 127.0.0.1
Load balancing perhaps?
They are hard at work making a patch for bind to ignore verisign injection their wildcard BS.
AP Article on yahoo news about it
Also, if you look at the source code (sitefinder.verisign.com), verisign has an image tag that is actually working as a 'web-bug' tracking you.
It is pointing to verisignwildcard.112.2O7.net.
I wonder if writing to their Sponsors from their new page would do any good?
I hope my isp blocks this bs, how can I verify a 'real' email address in my website forms anymore?
Spam? How to deal with it now? Rework everything because verisign decided to abuse dns? They should get their .com etc cert revoked and fined and jailed and.. Errrrrrrrrrrrrr....... [text was edited by author 2003-09-16 19:35:29] | |
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