Information Explosion Berkeley researchers study data output Though we're guessing our readers generate significantly more, Berkeley researchers suggest the average person generates 800Mbytes of data a year. An interesting study from Berkeley suggests there were 5 exabytes of new information created via print, film, magnetic, and optical storage media in 2002. 5 exabytes, or 5 million terabytes, or 5,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes, is likely to generate some nasty letters from your broadband ISP. The researchers note that this is about twice the data generated in 1999, and information creation has been increasing at about thirty percent each year. Among some of the more interesting findings from the study: - 92% percent of new information is stored on magnetic media, primarily hard disks. - The United States produces about 40% of the world's new stored information, including 33% of the world's new printed information, 30% of the world's new film titles, 40% of the world's information stored on optical media, and about 50% of the information stored on magnetic media. - Phone networks, both land-line and mobile, accounted for 17.3 exabytes of new information, or 98% of the total of all digitally transmitted information. - E-mail is behind phone networks, with 31 billion emails sent annually, creating around 400,000 TBytes of new information. - Does all of the digital data mean we're moving toward a paperless society? Not necessarily. Somehow the researchers calculate that information printed on paper increased 36 percent between 1999 and 2002. - Of the 320 million hours of radio and television broadcasts, about 70 million of it is actually new information. - There are about 2.9 million active Weblogs, containing a total 81 Gigabytes of text. - The average American adult uses the phone 16.17 hours a month, listens to the radio 90 hours a month, and watches 131 hours of TV a month. 53% of the U.S. population uses the web, on average spending 25 hours and 25 minutes a month doing so at home, and 74 hours and 26 minutes a month at work. The Berkeley website offers a breakdown and exploration of the methodology behind the study.
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|  | | | Re: Special " Of the 320 million hours of radio and television broadcasts, about 70 million of it is actually new information.
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Like I need stats for that one. TV sucks these dayz.
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| Re: Impressive Well, it goes to show how much crap we generate. I know I personally generate for than 800MB a year. I do more than 800MB a month, heck, a week.
I think it is interesting. It will only increase, when everything becoming bigger.
Paperless nation - yea right.
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| | | | | Re: Impressive Stats are pretty skewed when you consider they looked at the world's population, most of whom don't have computers.... | |
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Houston, TX | Funny thing IT is funny that we spend more time on the net at work that at home..  | |
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| Only From These Idiots... quote:
Berkeley researchers suggest the average person generates 800Mbytes of data a year.
If they meant data being transferred, that number is way too low. If they mean generating original content, that number is way too high. This is a pointless and inaccurate study. Of course I would expect nothing less from these bunch of morons.
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| | | | Re: Only From These Idiots... Geeze...some of you guys need naps or something.... | |
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... said by Karl Bode:
Geeze...some of you guys need naps or something....
Never mind. It's called not proof reading. 
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... I guess I just don't understand why all the hostility toward Berkeley? I post stories about how the bells pay phoney companies who claim they're independent to publish "studies" that say what the bells want them to say, and nobody says a thing....
Post something about Berkeley researchers, and they're somehow satan spawn?
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Portland, OR | Re: Only From These Idiots... | |
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| said by CyberSchnook3:
There's no IQ test required to get an account at BBR.
Not only is that OT, it was just rude.
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kudos:3 | Especialy if you are a commie liberal leftest which most of the professors and students at BBR-USSR are....Isnt this where RIAA has it base.... | |
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| For one, this survey has no real value other than to provide useless statistics. While they are entertaining, they are also inaccurate as I mentioned earlier.
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
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| | | | | | | | Re: Only From These Idiots... Inaccurate how? You've sat and crunched the numbers?
The 800Meg average is spread across the entire world's population, most of whom don't have a PC...... | |
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... And including people who don't have PCs is beneficial how? That's probably the main reason the stats are so screwed up. I can say on average smoking does not harm a person's health and not include the fact that I involved everyone in the world regardless if they actually smoke or not. That would make as much nonsense as these stats. If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
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hiatus | Re: Only From These Idiots... said by ArchAngel21x:
If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
Information exists in far more diverse forms that digital data that is on the internet. An understanding of that basic fact seems to escape you based on your post.
For example, if I write a page of prose, I have created about a 1kB of data. Hell, Shakespeare in his lifetime probably wrote several HUNDRED MBs of data.
The data they are measuring is NOT isolated to the internet.
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... said by bmn:
said by ArchAngel21x:
If they wanted accuracy, they should have started by taking into account only people with Internet access.
Information exists in far more diverse forms that digital data that is on the internet. An understanding of that basic fact seems to escape you based on your post.
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Stats are pretty skewed when you consider they looked at the world's population, most of whom don't have computers....
If that's true then Karl also didn't understand that and he posted the article. Fo figure.
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hiatus | Re: Only From These Idiots... said by ArchAngel21x:
If that's true then Karl also didn't understand that and he posted the article. Fo figure.
First, it is true. Limiting it the computers and the internet would then make it a "worthless statistic". Information production is inherently multi-media. Think of the 4GB DVD or LP (record) you own, that's information (although redundant because its based on gigabytes more film, etc).
Secondly, I can not verify Karl's understanding of that concept simply because I am not Karl.
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... said by bmn:
Secondly, I can not verify Karl's understanding of that concept simply because I am not Karl.
Then I would like to take it a step further and say that you can not verify my understanding, or lack of, because you are not me, and leave it at that.
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hiatus | Re: Only From These Idiots... said by ArchAngel21x:
Then I would like to take it a step further and say that you can not verify my understanding, or lack of, because you are not me, and leave it at that.
To cap this line off... It is possible to gauge your understanding because of what you posted. You said clearly and distinctly how you understood the article. Karl on the other hand made no such stance. You gave us the information we needed to gauge your understanding, Karl did not.
We could run around in circles, but at this point its better just to leave this as is.
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| No, I understand it as I actually READ the whole report. I'm just suggesting that PC users likely generate far more data....
You apply that average across a world population that consists of a lot of people working for virtually no money toiling in fields, and how much new information do you think these people create? Text, digital, or otherwise?
Not much....
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hiatus | said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
So if the people at Berkeley found a cure for cancer, you would still call them idiots because you disagree with their political beliefs ? Would you then not use the drug if need be because you disagree with politics ?
People, we need to get beyond politics. Politics are a huge waste of time and cause far more harm than good. I've never seen something stop progress and solutions faster than politics.
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... said by bmn:
So if the people at Berkeley found a cure for cancer, you would still call them idiots because you disagree with their political beliefs ? Would you then not use the drug if need be because you disagree with politics ?
No and No. Regardless of an organization's political views, if they did something as profound as find a cure to cancer I would acknowledge that.
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| said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
How so? | |
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| Re: Only From These Idiots... said by xrobertcmx:
said by ArchAngel21x:
As for my grudge against the organization, it burns me up the way they have no gratitude for our men women women fighting for us in the military.
How so?
That is a discussion best left for another thread
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Only From These Idiots... Don't mistake the Social Science colleges at Berkley for the Colleges which do hard science. Even when I lived out there in the late '60's the political activists Berkley where on another planet. The Hard science types where to
busy doing hard science to pay any attention to the what
these yippies where doing. It's the same way today, the only difference is it's those old yippies grand children
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said by ArchAngel21x:
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Berkeley researchers suggest the average person generates 800Mbytes of data a year.
If they meant data being transferred, that number is way too low. If they mean generating original content, that number is way too high. This is a pointless and inaccurate study. Of course I would expect nothing less from these bunch of morons.
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This is my cousins stats after 6months in his first year at school.. lol In 1 month he had 900GB transfers.. He alone would generate close to 20TB ine one year.. I'll have to ask him for a stats pic of the whole year.. (the Uni he goes too is in Florida)
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Falls Church, VA | On a "Paperless society" and weblogs The whole "paperless office" concept completely backfired. People now print more stuff, but with less need. Every stupid web page or email that someone prints out needlessly is an example of such waste.
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Humble, TX | Data != Computers I have seen a lot of posts that seem to me that people don't quite understand the article. This is how much data, written or typed or spoken, that people generate. It is not how much data they have on their computers, or how much data they transfer. It is about how much information we input into the universe as a whole.
But anyways, it is a waste of money if you ask me...
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hiatus | Re: Data != Computers said by Seandhi:
But anyways, it is a waste of money if you ask me...
Not entirely... By estimating the amount of data we as a society (globally) create, it shows the level of sophistication and advancement we are at. The more data a society creates, the more advanced it is currently. If you broke it down by country, you would see what I mean.
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Kokomo, IN | Re: Data != Computers said by bmn:
said by Seandhi:
But anyways, it is a waste of money if you ask me...
Not entirely... By estimating the amount of data we as a society (globally) create, it shows the level of sophistication and advancement we are at. The more data a society creates, the more advanced it is currently. If you broke it down by country, you would see what I mean.
Interesting point. Just imagine this... All kinds of transmissions are leaking out into space. If and only if there is intelligent life out there. They can use the same hypothesis on us.
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Humble, TX | Re: Data != Computers If you think about how our solar system is similar to the structure of an atom, and you think about how many atoms there are in the air that we breathe.
If you could assume that there is intelligent civilization on one electron of one atom of every breath that we breath, you could imagine how much information is in the world around us. If we could only tap into that information....
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Houston, TX | just a thought Didn't the total amount of information(and information usage) increase when they published this article and sparked this discussion? | |
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Land O Lakes, FL | Re: just a thought Good catch. I think that in the future the cable companies will use this study to define their customers annual bandwidth caps. | |
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Springfield, IL | 800mb is probably accurate.... but who am I to second guess them?
Chew on this: You apply for a credit card-data is generated in a bank's computer, you purchase something at Wal-Mart with your credit card-data is generated into Wal-mart's computers on its HARD DRIVES and on your credit statement you get next month. Using the ATM machine, etc...
This is what came to me when I think of data being generated. As mentioned earlier, its not what you have on your PC or what your transfer over your wee-little 56k line. Its a lot bigger than that and takes an incredible amount of work to analyze and put onto paper, like the folks at Berkeley have done. For that I applaud them. Think people!
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