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10% of homes slower than 33kbps
With so much discussion of what could be, it's easy to forget what is. 58.5% of US home users, and 25.8% of business users still access the internet via connections slower than 56kbps. According to the latest data, 41.5% of internet web connected homes do so via broadband, with adoption slowing slightly at the end of 2003. The report from WebsiteOptimization.com (which leans heavily on data from Neilsen/Netratings we discussed last month) notes that 2.8% of Americans are still browsing (suffering through?) the web at 14.4Kbps, and 7.3% are still using 28-33kbps modems. The report predicts that broadband's share should surpass 50% by June of 2004. The report notes that the majority of workers connect via office broadband of some form, but an amazing 25.8% still connect to the web from work at 56Kbps or less.
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Wall9
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I'll be first to say it

Interesting material.
tdkyo
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Re: I'll be first to say it

Are many Americans unable to upgrade their modem to cheap 56K or are the phone lines in America really really bad.

Karl Bode
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Re: I'll be first to say it

I think it's probably a mix of people who just use e-mail, and masochists.

seagreen
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I'll bet it's mostly rural residents who can't get anything else. Too far for DSL, too low a population density to entice cable companies out here, too hilly for WISPs and the phone lines are a gazillion years old so even with a V92 modem, I connect (via dialup) @24.6 (on a good day).
marcussen
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Re: I'll be first to say it

when I had dial up my 56k modem would NEVER connect any faster than 28.8. my daughter lives a few miles away and her conection is never faster than 26k and she is using a 56k modem (I installed it) and she has no broadband options other than satelite. Which is to high for her at $600 install and $60 a month. (and it is rural)
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Re: I'll be first to say it

In my case the local telco (sprint) just refuses to upgrade us to dsl despite several people on my street who would like it. Pop 38k and other portions of town have dsl so I dont know what they are waiting for
Estragon
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You left out the trees

said by seagreen:
... too hilly for WISPs ...

I thought the hills were good for WISPs -- they give you a good place to put an antenna.

But you left out the trees. To see anything I would need to put an antenna on top of an 80 foot mast. Only thing is, that antenna would only be able to see other antennae that are on 80 foot masts.

seagreen
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Re: You left out the trees

said by Estragon:

I thought the hills were good for WISPs -- they give you a good place to put an antenna.

Hills are good if you and the antenna you need a line of sight to are on top of them. If you are in a valley between hills you are SOL. And, yes, I left out trees - we're surrounded with those as well.

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Both of those and crappy phone lines.:(

dav0r
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When I was in upstate NY at a small hotel their POTS lines were so bad that even at 24.4 it would dump the connection every 5 minutes. I gave up. Furthermore, many places like the LEC in the Virgin Islands I sometimes work with has 95% or higher MF signaling types which should have been replaced by SS7 signaling long ago. It is expensive for new equipment, and everyone is scared s'less after the crash a couple years ago. Companies are only supplying demand when it is screamed for these days... Like I've said before, if you want fiber to your home you better move to Japan, Sweden, or Korea.

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Re: I'll be first to say it

Or Wisconsin:

»www.madison.com/toolbox/ ··· 4033.php

Or Utah:

»Trouble in Utopia

Or Iowa:

»www.spectrum.ieee.org/WE ··· mm3.html

Or Alabama:

»www.madisoncountyrecord. ··· ews2.txt

Or Indiana:

»www.chronicle-tribune.co ··· 108.html


dav0r
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Wow, 0.0003% of the homes in the US, impressive.
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Karl Bode
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.00003%? Says who?

The Utah project alone is going to wire 18 different Utah cities, and hundreds of thousands of businesses and homes.

Nationwide it's Probably more like 3%, which could be more if the bells would get off their asses and stop playing chicken&egg and peek-a-boo with the FCC.

There's something like 2-300 communities that are either providing their own fiber or working in cooperation with a utility to bring fiber. Have to start someplace?

dav0r
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said by Karl Bode:
Have to start someplace?

True, and a real disadvantage for the US is sheer size. It's much bigger than the smaller countries who deploy what exists only in California for their entire country; or less.

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> True, and a real disadvantage for the US is sheer size. It's
> much bigger than the smaller countries who deploy what
> exists only in California for their entire country; or less.

Are you talking geographic size? If so that argument doesn't hold, take a look at Canada, much higher broadband and a much larger and more sparsely populated country.

The US is just too messed up and the companies too greedy and government too swayed by the greedy companies to do anything useful.

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Your argument doesn't hold - Canada on the whole may be bigger and more sparsely populated than the US, but they can achieve better broadband penetration due to the fact that the VAST majority of its population lives in a narrow track along the US border making for a much smaller geographic footprint needed to achieve a greater population % usage.

Tell me, do the Inuit have FTTI? (Fibre to the Igloo) Hell they probably all have Sat TV and internet 'cause they can't get a POTS line.

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said by FLea973:
Your argument doesn't hold - Canada on the whole may be bigger and more sparsely populated than the US, but they can achieve better broadband penetration due to the fact that the VAST majority of its population lives in a narrow track along the US border making for a much smaller geographic footprint needed to achieve a greater population % usage.

Tell me, do the Inuit have FTTI? (Fibre to the Igloo) Hell they probably all have Sat TV and internet 'cause they can't get a POTS line.

You hit the nail on the head regarding population distrubution.

Regadding FTTI:
I was fully set up until my pet polar bear hopped on my snowmobile and crashed in to the pole that carries the fiber. Now I have to wait for the permafrost to melt so they can dig a new hole for a replacement pole...

Maybe in the spring...

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Actually, when I as up in Dawson City, Yukon, I was able to easily get high speed there through cable (which I did, since I'm addicted). They also had DSL, but cable was easier in my situation. The speed was 1.5mbps, too, if I remember correctly. I'm not sure of any further north in the Yukon, but considering the population is only around 3000 or so, I think that's a pretty good idea of how far of a reach broadband has in Canada.

Also, an Inuit friend of mine who goes home to her res (on the western edge of Hudson's Bay) for a few months every summer said that she could get DSL if she wanted to (though she uses a computer every day at her job, so she opts to not take it and fish instead ;-p ).

So, yes, the Inuit (some of them, at least) do have high speed internet. If the permafrost wasn't a major issue to cabling, I'm sure Canada would have an even better distribution for high speed.

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I'm not sure I agree with that. Most Canadians live in either major cities or in the south. There are more people in more places in the US than in Canada. Sure Canada is much larger for land mass but not many people live up north. I wouldn't consider Yellowknife to be a major POP, ya know? The US, on the other hand, goes from dense to sparse many times across the entire country. Canada isn't like that. I believe it would be much cheaper to fully deploy 80% of Canada's population than 80% of the population in the US. You're right that regulations can suck... and most companies have interests due to profits. That's business / supply-demand.
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Also, tell that to all the greedy companies who tried to over-extend fiber reaches and went bankrupt doing it. Those companies are out of business. Also, take a look at Nortel. They weren't really that greedy and even tried to float loans to people trying to do more. They then layed off around 50,000 people. Are they greedy as well? It's called cost and no one can afford to do more than what we have right now. At least it's starting to improve and sway away from that...
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said by tdkyo:
Are many Americans unable to upgrade their modem to cheap 56K or are the phone lines in America really really bad.

yes, the phone lines are that bad.

Until I got ISDN (5yrs ago?) I could never connect faster than 29-30K because of the phone line. To give me ISDN, they had to "clean up" my line, by removing filters, inductors and other whatnot. I now occasionally connect to work via dialup and never get less than 50k.

I don't think it's so much the copper itself, but all the various high speed unfriendly crap that has been done to the lines for voice. And don't forget pair gain systems - you can't get DSL if you're on a pair gain system (like me ).

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said by tdkyo:
Are many Americans unable to upgrade their modem to cheap 56K or are the phone lines in America really really bad.

They're really that bad. Until Comcast upgraded our neighborhood, only after being threatened with muni operated competition, the fastest that anyone could connect with dial up was at 28KPS.

Sadly, the local telco thought that this was acceptable. (still does) They'd be correct as long as technology stopped dead in it's tracks in 1994.

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The phone lines are really really bad. I have a 56k modem and all I can connect to if im lucky is 28.8k
Estragon
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The phone lines are really really bad.

I found that upgrading my modem to 56K was a mistake. It still runs at 26.4K, but the initializating time at dial up is a lot longer. It seems to take 20 to 30 seconds extra to negotiate the speed down from 56K to under 28K.
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Re: I'll be first to say it

I'm not sure where all of you live that are claiming to get connected with a dial up modem at 33 and 28 k, but I live in kentucky and i get connected everytime, at, at least 45k, and then i just disconnect and see it go to 52.3. i think the problem is that dial up is just a shitty outdated garbage pile, and telcos dont feel like deploying dsl everywhere. : /
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I thought there was some law that prevented high transfer rates on dialup?

Anyway..max I've gotten was 33k. With a 56k modem
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said by tagazta:
I thought there was some law that prevented high transfer rates on dialup?

Anyway..max I've gotten was 33k. With a 56k modem

The FCC max allowed is 53k. It all has to do with power going through the lines.

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I think alot has to do with the brand of modem and ones provider. I have noticed using several different modems over several years with using the same provider in the same area that i have gotten max connection rates that have varied drastically.
With Winmodems its been luck of the draw, i have had some that refuse to connect above 33k or 29k, no matter what. I had a hardware modem once that would always hit 52k max or 49k at its worse.
You can thank a penchant for losing modems to lighting strikes for my being able to draw this conclusion. Right now I'm using a new mobo with a CNR modem that was included, it has built in call-waiting caller ID, which lets me catch calls through it and stay online, and it's max rate has always been 49k.
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said by tdkyo:
Are many Americans unable to upgrade their modem to cheap 56K or are the phone lines in America really really bad.
There are a lot of folks who live out in the country where phone lines only support 28.8. My brother connects at only 26.6. So few people live out his way, their isn't much incentive for the phone company to upgrade the lines. He doesn't mind though, he'd rather live out in the wide open spaces than to live with the congestion of the big city. It's a trade off.
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The phone lines are really that bad... depending on where you are.. The problem lies in that some ILEC dsl providers laid long copper loops originally and are unwilling to shorten those loops or add remote terminals to allow for higher access speeds... ATM I find myself stuck at 33KB/sec = 260kbps simply because of where I lie out on the loop... Can't say I'm very happy about this either, but cable isn't much of a choice up here considering all the fees and restrictions they place on you.

WillHaeck
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Re: I'll be first to say it

ONLY 260 kbps? Thats just terrible. I get 42 kbps on a good day, now stop your bitching.
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said by WillHaeck

said by WillHaeck:
ONLY 260 kbps? Thats just terrible. I get 42 kbps on a good day, now stop your bitching.

Uh..., he said 33KB, not 260KB. The difference is two types of units Kilobytes Per Second (KBps), and Kilobits Per Second (kbps). The difference between the two units is the number of bits in a byte, which is 8. The lowercase 'kb' stands for bits, and the uppercase 'KB' stands for bytes. Transfer speeds are often shown in KB/s, and connect speeds are usually quoted in Kb/s.

So, you were slamming Sabo7ge because you think his connection is faster than yours, so he as you put it "should stop (his) bitching." He said his connection was typically 33KBps which is the same as 264kbps, you see 33KB*8=264kb.

Your connection is faster than Sabo7ge's is. You are connecting at 42KBps, not 42kbps as you reported in your post. That means 42KB*8=336kbps.

Sabo7ge's connection is only 78% as fast as yours. You are the faster of the two.

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Re: said by WillHaeck

Umm... No you're confused, i'm talking in kilobits, as in I connect at 42 kilobits, as in DIALUP.
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Re: said by WillHaeck

Sir,

Please accept my humblest apologies. You are correct, I misread Sabo7ge's post, and confused myself.

Gee, that sucks. I remember when I had dial-up, and was bonding 2 connections to achieve around 103kb. I and most of my friends thought that was the coolest thing.
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The internet is the most boring thing I have ever come across in my entire life. I am 51 years old have three pc's running in my home through a router and have cable internet. The only thing most of the time that I use it for is just to look up something from time to time. My wife sells on ebay, but I have gotten to the point that I can't hardly stand to look at my computer screen. What ever happen to a time when people went outdoors to enjoy things. Oh well, something for everyone I guess

Wall9
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Re: I'll be first to say it

We like to live vicariously through others.

Please send pictures of Sun.
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Verizon is still dragging their feet with remote terminals to extend the 18,000 ft. I am an ISP and try and qualify people everyday that are to far away from the CO. I guess Verizon does not want to make money anymore.

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I think it will change dramatically as broadband starts dropping prices.

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jdmurray
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So...what's....your...point?..In....a...hurry..to...down..load...all..that...spam?

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What would be great is if the USA just ripped up all the cable lines and fone lines and tossed em aside and but brand spankin new wiring in....that would help EVERYONE...except it is an expensive process and it would take some time lol...but hey im still on dialup...i can't afford DSL or cable....specially since it isnt afford here either.
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Got this response from DW Indian tech support today in response to my questions about horrible uplink speeds. I guess this tells all:
Thank you for contacting DIRECWAY Technical Support. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

As I understand, after running many speed tests, still the average upload speed is 14.5. You want to use dial up for upload and want to know what to do for this.

I apologize for the inconvenience this issue may have caused.

Pat, please contact the voice support for troubleshooting the upload speed issue. As per DIRECWAY standards, the upload speed during peak hours is in between 15-25 kbps.

15 to25!!!!!!! Can you believe that?????? and I'd bet 90% of the folks using during peak hours are falling in the lower end of that!

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I am one of the users UNDER 33k. The best I can do is 26.4k. No DSL, cable, or Wireless available to my house. If it wasn't for Direcway satellite internet, I'd be royaly screwed for broadband..... of any kind.
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That looks surprisingly good

But some people just don't see the need for broadband.

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28.8 or slower

That's just so sad makes me want to cry lets hold a telethon and raise money for those still on dialup.

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Ouch

I can understand regular people using 56k or something, but businesses using 56k AND LESS?!!! I am hurting just thinking about it.

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markopoleo
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No surpise here

US broadband will continue to be hyped in just major population areas.

I can see why phone company won't upgrade for rural areas, they like reaping the $150 a month I spend for ISDN in this town.

Phone company: He lets see if we can give this place DSL for $30 a month, its only gonna cost use $1million to upgrade RTs.
Phone guy2: Umm shows there is only 10 people living around there.
Phone company: Oh, screw it let them pay $150 a month instead its just easier.

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Nate3
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Its the lines not the Modems

If someone is connecting at 33k or less it is because the local phone lines don't support higher connection rates.

I ran into this problem at my parents house. Most people DO HAVE the hardware to make the connection. Its the medium that sucks.

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garmst
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Slow pokes are happy!

Those WebTV goobers are happy as clams using 56K modems.

AOL is great content at 56K.

Some people can't think faster than 56K.

Let's just call it 'diversity'!

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Well let's see....

...if you can't be broadband, you're going to be surfing less than 33kbps more than likely. If phone companies and cable companies would upgrade all of their networks, this number would be high....duuuuuuuurrrrrrrrr.

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doomsday121
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well

So what?

This study should look at what percentage of those that get on the internet NEED greater than 56kbps.

If 25% of American home users don't need anything greater than 56kbps, that those previously quoted numbers aren't that significant.

Please note: I don't know anything about what the numbers are. I just know that not everyone needs or even wants internet video games, porn to download, file trading, or VOIP. I just know demand affects supply and would be interested to know how the demand compares to availability of greater than 56kbps access. I know my parents don't use the internet for anything but light browsing and e-mail and can't talk them into getting a cable internet connection.
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How does Europe compare?

I wonder how Europe compares to USA as far as home internet broadband use.

I bet many European countries have even less broadband use than USA.

I know many Asian contries far exceed USA in broadband use(Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, etc)

TheToro
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Re: How does Europe compare?

you right, I pay 40€ 256k/128 ADSL or 40€cable 300/150 it's so expensive.

SPain, Portugal and grace we got the most expensive and slow Broadband of Europe.
SPain has 40mill of persons.. and only 1,600.000 persons got ADSL the proble is we are under a monopolio

TXTigerman
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Don't want it? Whatever!

This report said nothing about how many of those people want real broadband, but can't get it becuase of ILEC foot dragging and legislative extortion!

At least I printed this report for my visit to the crapper later. That's about all it's worth.
mrljcsi
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Sputt, Sputt, Sputt

DSL just became available in my area!!!!!
No more slow speeds for me.....thankfully!!

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Just dump people I guess lol

I think a lot of the reason why theres so many 56k users. Dumb AOL Users, Families who dont know what broadband is, high school kids who spend all day long instant messaging and nothing else (Most likely an AOL user).

And since those families who have those middle school or high school kids instant messaging all day long have mediocre pc's usually and since their parents rarely get on they dont know what broadband is.

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AOL is King of the Internet

NO ONE NEEDS Broadband! People WANT IT! Needs and Wants are 2 diff things.

Case in point, I have a frined on AOL, and I convinced him to get BROADBANb, since his mom only had AOL, I alone was the only reason he got Broadband from Comcast. Now he loves it! Faster file trading.

I had DSL and I was telling him how fast I could download this n that, and I told him AOL dialup was junk and he needed to get rid of it. Little did I know he listened to me. Talked to his mom, and the rest as w say, is HISTORY.

His family did not know anything about Cable Internet or DSL. All they knew was AOL. Now he's a happy camper with a high speed internet connection in his home.

If half the goobers on AOL knew there was a better way to surf and let the hand holding go, you would see better results on who's using CABLE or DSL.

Most of these don't know about CABLE or DSL. AOL is their savior. Of course the perverts love AOL and AOL loves them. So, that's another reason.

Let's not forget about granny and grandpa. I talk to a lot of older people who don't know what the internet is or have any use for it.

Also, don't forget about the poorer inner city people who can't afford a computer or Internet connection.

People seem to be forgetting about them, as if they don't matter.

ANYWAY, talk to a person on AOL and talk about all the good things u can do with your connection, and how fast you can download this n that and play games, you will see A LOT of people leaving in droves, but since you can't cancel AOL, because when u call in, they will give you 2-6 more months free...................... it's gonna be a struggle.

JE

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Me me me!

My house is limited to 33.6 because the lines are old. I hate when the cable modem goes out...
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please... no. let the aol'ers stay on their island of stupidity

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Its a shame

I actually personally know someone on 28k dial up :O

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Re: Its a shame

Hehe, I love comments like this... like we on dial-up are a form of alien being or something. But yes, it does suck connecting at 28.8 to 31.2. I, working in the IT field would love to be able to connect at even 40k or higher. Ever try to VPN at 28.8, how about pcAnywhere to the office, or edit a intranet site. Let alone trying to play Neverwinter Nights or Quake III! But, living in the country has it's nuisances I suppose. Like the lack of any form of broadband (other than sat, which as someone else said, is hardly broadband.) Or like the urbanites that come and build sub-divisions to escape "the unruly neighbors" and threaten the farmers because of the "foul odors emitted from those fat black and white horses", or how about those blasted slow moving vehicles that won't move over when you are trying to pass them in a 25mph zone. Or the worst... tap water!
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whine whine whine!

everyone everyone please dont complain....sooner or later you will get braodband dont sweat it and you might actually get it cheap like i do i get 3000/256 from adelphin for something like 40 a month, its steller.

p.s my good good freind who used to live next door and get the same service had to move out to the boonies becuase of his parents and had to live with 14.4 becuase of bad phone line. well now look at him hes said screw cable/dsl/idsn/sat and sprung for a full t1. moral of the story if you have an exxtra 32g's sttiing arounf bit the lip and prepay your t1 for 3 years

richk_1957
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Re: whine whine whine!

said by jmkdblplay:
everyone everyone please dont complain....sooner or later

It's the later part that is the trouble. A lot of companies say broadband is coming, broadband is coming....but the don't say when, just that it's coming.
said by jmkdblplay:
well now look at him hes said screw cable/dsl/ISDN/sat and sprung for a full t1. moral of the story if you have an exxtra 32g's sttiing arounf bit the lip and prepay your t1 for 3 years

Well, most people don't have that kind of $$$ laying around, but if he does & got a T1 - the more power to him. And yeah, T1 is better in many ways to cable/dsl/ISDN/sat [you get a dedicated line, service is great (that's because most 'T' customers are businesses & down time hurts) & other bells & whistles], so if you can blow the $$$.....
Estragon
join:2003-06-20
Greenville, NH

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said by jmkdblplay:
everyone everyone please dont complain....sooner or later you will get braodband ...

So exactly how much later is "later"? When I heard about DSL and cable modems five years ago I wanted it immediately. If not sooner. Today I have no evidence that I am a day closer to getting broadband access at my house.

20 years from now will be too late.

In the meantime, more and more of the net is becoming unusable at dialup speeds. And friends who have broadband think nothing of e-mailing me 3 megabyte jpeg files or videos (they take a longtime to download at 24K).

I'll whine all I want because I'm ANGRY about it.

ddg4005
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Just a reminder

Damn. This is just a reminder of how many people in this country still don't have access to broadband or perhaps don't want it (although I think it's more the former and not the latter). Hell, they don't even have access to fast dial-up speeds. I think any national focus from the government, with regard to consumer technology, should be to get as many homes access to DSL or cable internet services as possible. Forget taxing the Internet: try getting everyone connected through broadband first.

Vchat20
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Columbus, OH

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Re: Just a reminder

yeah. and the majority of them dont know anything about computers and do nothing but check email and simply surf the web on a small scale. i know. cuz my mom does the same. only way we managed to get our butts on broadband was thanks to my nagging. and to prove my point, she's wanting to go back to dialup on a second line because she claims she doesnt notice a difference in speed and thinks it would be cheaper. my argument is always that she doesnt do bandwidth intensive things like i do. she only checks email and plays at pogo.com, i download alot of huge files, maintain websites, and even sometimes host varieties of servers like shoutcast and the like which are real bandwidth hogs and for a reason. i cannot go back. dialup is so 2,000,000BC.
shit7
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Skowhegan, ME

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Re: Just a reminder

I can totally agree with that.I do a lot of bandwidth hogging activities,so I need the bandwidth.Even though I had to whine,bitch and scream to get it.I used to get 33kbps and now I was able to get broadband and I love it,now I am cruising at 2mbps.It makes my life so much easier.

TheToro
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Atlanta, GA

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that is curious

In my country the people talks about in the US every body got internet cos the DIal-up is free ( the local calls are free)and we gotta pay them, If u ask anybody here about the internet in USA he/she will say the all AMericans have fast broadband cable, I think the cable begun in the 80's in the US ( here in 1998), but reading you guys i Know the US is not the king in Broadband here the ADSL is aviable in the 90% or 95% of my country
Darth Raid
join:2002-08-27
Scottsville, NY

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Re: that is curious

I've seriously contemplated suicide, due to 56k. 7 years, no sign of it coming. Do you know what 56k...er 26.4k can do to a person? Every other person I know has broadband, not where I live...I hate life.

Rainier9
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Flushing, NY

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Re: that is curious

I was gonna jump out the 3rd floor window into the street when I was waiting for a 800mb download to finish... at 51 bytes/sec...

*_*

JeedaiKnight
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unlucky 10% right here.

of course, my house is one of the 10%. My freaking phone line sucks so bad, we only get 24kbps. AAAAAAAAAARRGH! I take my computer anywhere else, hook it up, I connect at about 52kbps...ugh I hate living in the country...no cable, no dsl, sattelite costs an arm and a leg... shoot me now...or...shoot my phone company, who hasn't done **** to fix it.
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