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Patent claims head beyond ridiculous
(old news - 12:13PM Monday Jan 19 2004)
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Patenting everything from scrollbars to the internet itself, opportunistic individuals and corporations are making a mess of the nation's legal system with claims teetering on the bizarre. The latest are debates over the ownership of browser plugins, and claims by some that they own the domain system itself.

British Telecom shocked the world when they began claiming that the company invented the hyperlink. British Telecom's lawyers argued that the company invented hyperlinks in 1976, therefore every website that utilized the idea in the U.S. should be subject to a licensing fee.

Bob Bemer, whose 1960 work forms the foundation of many modern computer systems, had plenty to say about British Telecom's attempts. Bemer, now 82, came up with the notion of the "escape sequence" while working as IBM's chief of programming standards. Escape also appears in every hyperlink as a slash (/); without Bemer's slash, there would be no hyperlinks, he argues.

Such is the chicken and the egg battle in the world of patent law and invention. Add corporate legal departments with deep pockets to the mix; shake and stir, and you'll usually wind up with a convoluted mess that is the world's intellectual property debate.

British Telecom's case was eventually thrown out; but imagine a world where corporations claim intellectual ownership of such mundane programming concepts as hyperlinks and scrollbars. That world has become very real in the States, and is also the center of a growing battle in the UK.

Arlene McCarthy, Member of the European Parliament, has been supporting a law that could give corporations the key to the software kingdom. Backed by many corporations, McCarthy has been a self-proclaimed supporter of improving UK e-commerce. To that end, she believes apparently that such a mission can be accomplished by turning the country's intellectual property laws on their head.

In Europe, 30,000 "software patents" on fairly mundane concepts have already been granted. Though they currently lack any legal legs to stand on, such patents could be enforceable if McCarthy gets her way. Simple 'public domain' programming ideas (as simple as the ability to scroll within a window) would suddenly require licensing fees, and programmers would now have to pay patent-holders money every time they included them; even in self-developed applications.

According to Swiss system manager and programmer Tobias Oetiker, whose various network monitoring tools are used by ISP's worldwide, the push could spell certain doom for many programmers in the UK. To Oetiker, the ludicrous concept is akin to licensing 'sitting on a bench in the park and watching children play'; in the real world, the courts would laugh in the face of such a proposal. Given the often complex nature of programming and the limited understanding of technology by lawmakers, somehow the idea is managing to move forward.

"Unfortunately with software 'inventions/patents' the specialist knowledge required in order to decide if an idea is realy revolutionary or just stupid is very high," says Oetiker. He argues that there's nothing really to be gained technologically from such a move; it's simply a quest for cash from the business sector. "In many countries this has been understood at some point, therefore many places have laws against patenting mathematical algorithms (software falls into this category)."

In the UK, the vote to "harmonize" the UK patent system has been delayed until April of this year. Here in the states, the debate over concept patents continues to teeter into the ridiculous completely on its own - without the help of politicians.

This week one patent lawyer unveiled claims he owns US patent 6,671,714 - "Method, apparatus and business system for online communications with online and offline recipients". The lawyer is suing both Network Solutions and Register.com, relying on semantics and double-speak in the hopes of grabbing an undeserved piece of the domain pie. As the Register explores in more detail, the claim is incredibly broad but focuses on .name domains in the hopes of helping it seem relevant.

While Microsoft has been known to lay claims to ridiculous patents themselves (such as common and long-used components of instant messaging), they recently found themselves on the other side of the equation. Last week a Federal Judge upheld a $512m patent verdict against Microsoft by Eolas Technologies and the University of California.

Eolas's patent once again focuses on a ridiculously broad concept: the ability to launch in-browser applications (viewers, media-players, etc.). That's fine if you're not a big fan of Microsoft, but won't be so fine if the legal argument is directed toward the less affluent manufacturers of your browser of choice.

Patent disputes (legitimate complaints or otherwise) have grown more and more heated with the web's evolution. Unisys's claims to own gif compression (and subsequent attempts to secure royalties), Amazon's claims on "one-click ordering"; the list of examples are endless, and that's before one even takes a peek at the battle going on between SCO (formerly Caldera) and the Linux community. SCO, owners of Unix, have been busy threatening end users and distributors for using Linux sans licensing fees, because it contains bits of Unix code. That fight even extended overseas this week with SCO extending their licensing "offers" throughout Europe.

However it's the ridiculously broad concept patents that have become an all too common occurrence. In fact the end result has seen reasonable companies rushing to file their own ridiculous patents in order to simply protect themselves. Surely a battle over the ownership of "oxygen inhalation and processing for energy expenditure and organ maintenance" is on deck?

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devilmann30

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Crazy World We Live In!!

I claim ownership of this topic. So everyone must pay me a fee if they wish to post. This stuff is crazy!

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

said by devilmann30 See Profile:
I claim ownership of this topic. So everyone must pay me a fee if they wish to post. This stuff is crazy!

Please put this on my Tab. If you don't have Tab I'll take a Pepsi Free. Just give me something without any sugar in it.
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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

said by The Folsom See Profile:
Please put this on my Tab. If you don't have Tab I'll take a Pepsi Free. Just give me something without any sugar in it.

Thats great!! One of my favorite movie quotes :)

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

said by rosco See Profile:
said by The Folsom See Profile:
Please put this on my Tab. If you don't have Tab I'll take a Pepsi Free. Just give me something without any sugar in it.

Thats great!! One of my favorite movie quotes :)

Thanks; it was specially modified for use in this forum--- I hope I don't have to pay a royalty!

I love the "Back to The Future" movies and I want to buy them on DVD and watch them every day until I die from radiation poisoning!
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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!


"1.21 Gigawatts? What was I thinking? Nothing can produce that kind of power!"

Some of the best movies made... and in a rare twist, the sequels were as good as the original... not a very common feat!

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Im right there with ya man...I wore out my VHS Back to the Future tapes a while back. I still dont have the dvd set yet

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

LOL! I had the soundtracks on tape, wore them out, and bought them on disc. I have the tapes but they're pretty worn and I haven't gotten around to buying the discs yet.

I remember seeing each of them in the theaters.
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You can't place in on a tab. I hold the patents on the tab key and since I was the first to register "tab" you also cannot use it to reference any other such item. "Tab" is no longer made as I ran them out of business with a name infringement.

So if you persist in using "tab" or any other variant, you will hear from my lawyers. Dowey, Cheatum, and Howe are nothing more than phone call away.
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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

As the owner of the "comma" and associated punctuation (apostrophe, quotation marks, et al.) you are hereby in violation of patent #4587698531214587436613846128513563416b.
Penalties of $13,847 per occurrence must be remitted to me in 48 hours. You currently owe $221,552 (not counting the comma in your Location).

Do not attempt to call your lawyers, as I also hold the patents on the numbers 0-9 and letter Q.

Its been a pleasure doing business with you.

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

said by snkeyes3 See Profile:

Do not attempt to call your lawyers, as I also hold the patents on the numbers 0-9 and letter Q.

Its been a pleasure doing business with you.

Well damn... You sure pissed on Sesame Street's parade. At least they have the rest of the alphabet! Just not going to be able to teach numbers anymore.
snkeyes3

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

It ain't pretty, but what I do pays the bills.

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said by The Folsom See Profile:
Just give me something without any sugar in it.
There hasn't been any sugar in soft drinks for the last 20 years. its all high fructose corn syrup now!
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said by devilmann30 See Profile:
I claim ownership of this topic. So everyone must pay me a fee if they wish to post. This stuff is crazy!

I will pay you in Gevelta fish or Pickled Herring!

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!

Gefilta Fish. Although Gevelta is valid, it is rare to the best of my knowledge. Or do I have it backwards? At any rate, I'll take it with Atomic red horseradish.

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Re: Crazy World We Live In!!



Oy Vey... Gevelta Fish is like a hodge podge. All the left over fish stuff is pressed together, then put in a broth. If you THINK about it, you might not want to eat it... but it is good.

Only other think I can think of to pay you with is Male Bovine Fecal Matter.
lesopp

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I wonder if I can patent the electron, so that anybody outside of absolute zero who lives or uses anything would have to pay?

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Re: A matter of perspective

said by lesopp See Profile:
I wonder if I can patent the electron, so that anybody outside of absolute zero who lives or uses anything would have to pay?

Then I will have to just Patent the Gluon or Quark... Or maybe both the Strong and Weak gravitational force.

Hey... If I patent the patent, then no one can have a patent without paying me.
lesopp

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Re: A matter of perspective

Okay, but I'll have to claim exclusive rights to "strings" and have the government grant me quantum ownership.

(In case you're familiar with string theory)

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Re: A matter of perspective

said by lesopp See Profile:
Okay, but I'll have to claim exclusive rights to "strings" and have the government grant me quantum ownership.

(In case you're familiar with string theory)

OK Fine... I get the patent on the "Big Bang" and religion... now you are all screwed. :-D

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Re: A matter of perspective

said by swsamurai See Profile:
said by lesopp See Profile:
Okay, but I'll have to claim exclusive rights to "strings" and have the government grant me quantum ownership.

(In case you're familiar with string theory)

OK Fine... I get the patent on the "Big Bang" and religion... now you are all screwed. :-D

I claim the patent on "infinity", which, in my opinion, trumps all of the above by virtue of inclusion.
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Re: A matter of perspective



Then you have to figure out WHERE in infinity you begin...
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If he they would have started crying pattent when like 15 years ago they might have been able to win. this trial is going to be kicked.....

Next thing you know they will patent walking...

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I hereby patent the abstract notion and concept of thought...

Anyone, anywhere in the United States who is now alive, and who shall ever live in the future who has had or shall ever have a thought is infringing upon my patent and is expected to pay a royalty to me.

Don't even THINK of blowing me off...
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Please send payment to nigerianscam@paypal.com

Yep, better enjoy computers now because in a few years they are going to make the rich people richer and the poor people poorer.

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Re: Please send payment to nigerianscam@paypal.com

I own the patent on using icons next to your name in forums, so PAY UP!

Next step, a patent on the odor of my gas! Could you hear it "Hey, your fart smells like mine! Pay me $1000.00".

Have a nice day everyone,

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Sounds

Looks like the RIAA calls dibs on all sounds used on the internet. Everyone that utilizes sounds of any type on their site must send $100,000 to:

The RIAA (We think we own the internet)
101 We Rule This Earth St.
RIAAVILLE, RIAA 7422
United Nations of the RIAA (formerly planet Earth)

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Re: Sounds

Yeah, they also try to make a format(mp3) illegal, how stupid.

Anyway, back to topic.. Internet has no real ownership, even the government(s) dont have full ownership of the internet.
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KB2PSM

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Re: Sounds

Sorry, but I have the patent on stupidity...now if I had a nickel for every....
rmdir

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my claim

I claim rights on the right to claim rights, so the whole freakin world of lawyers and all the posts above owe me big time.

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Patenting third level domains?

said by the patent:

What is claimed is:

1. A method for assigning URL's and e-mail addresses to members of a group comprising the steps of:

assigning each member of said group a URL of the form "name.subdomain.domain"; and

assigning each member of said group an e-mail address of the form "name@subdomain.domain;"

wherein the "name" portion of said URL and said e-mail address is the same and unique for each particular one of said members such that an only difference between said URL and said e-mail address for said member is that in said URL the "@" symbol of the e-mail address is replaced with a "." and wherein said "subdomain" portion of said URL and said e-mail address is the same for all members of said group.

2. The method of claim 1 wherein said members of said group comprise members of a licensed profession.

Basically what they are saying is set up justin.user.dslreports.com as a web URL and then have the e-mail address justin@user.dslreports.com. Does the patent cover dropping the "user" portion? As in "justin.dslreports.com" and "justin@dslreports.com"?

Who else thinks it's time for a ban on companies which solely exist to own and license intellectual property. Sure, it won't get rid of all of the stupid patents (BT's hyperlink patent for example), but it seems like the majority of these suits are brought on by tiny companies who were able to get a vaguely worded patent through the patent office.
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Re: Patenting third level domains?

said by Jason Levine See Profile:
Who else thinks it's time for a ban on companies which solely exist to own and license intellectual property. Sure, it won't get rid of all of the stupid patents (BT's hyperlink patent for example), but it seems like the majority of these suits are brought on by tiny companies who were able to get a vaguely worded patent through the patent office.

All software companies (as opposed to software support companies) solely exist to own and license intellectual property.

Ban all of 'em?

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Re: Patenting third level domains?

said by AthlGrond See Profile:
All software companies (as opposed to software support companies) solely exist to own and license intellectual property.

Ban all of 'em?

Ok, let me specify better. I meant banning companies whose sole purpose is the ownership of, and licensing of, patents. Software companies will usually have a product to sell. This product might be sold directly or licensed to the user, but there's still a tangible product involved. (Ok, as tangible as software can be.)

However, there are companies who own a bunch of patents (usually vaguely worded), but don't actually produce anything. They exist solely to find a way of identifying a product or service as being covered by one of their patents. Once they are able to twist the patent to cover this product/service, they sue anyone selling and/or using it.

In addition, I'd like to see a "statute of limitations" on patent lawsuits. This way you wouldn't get cases like the Unisys GIF lawsuit where they waited until GIF was widely adopted before deciding to enforce it. IMO, if you've waited until your patented idea is widespread, you should lose all rights to royalties from it. (Of course, if the idea becomes widespread faster than you can sue, you would just have to show some enforcement.)
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Re: Patenting third level domains?

said by Jason Levine See Profile:
Ok, let me specify better. I meant banning companies whose sole purpose is the ownership of, and licensing of, patents. Software companies will usually have a product to sell. This product might be sold directly or licensed to the user, but there's still a tangible product involved. (Ok, as tangible as software can be.)

However, there are companies who own a bunch of patents (usually vaguely worded), but don't actually produce anything. They exist solely to find a way of identifying a product or service as being covered by one of their patents. Once they are able to twist the patent to cover this product/service, they sue anyone selling and/or using it.
It might be hard to distinguish the difference in legalise. (I don't know that it would be, just a guess though.)

I agree 100% with your intent though.

said by Jason Levine See Profile:
In addition, I'd like to see a "statute of limitations" on patent lawsuits. This way you wouldn't get cases like the Unisys GIF lawsuit where they waited until GIF was widely adopted before deciding to enforce it. IMO, if you've waited until your patented idea is widespread, you should lose all rights to royalties from it. (Of course, if the idea becomes widespread faster than you can sue, you would just have to show some enforcement.)
Similar to trademark infringement. Good idea.

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ummm....wow. This has been the standard for DNS SOA records for as long as I've known it. The second field in an SOA record replaces "@" with "." for the responsible party email address, so "dnsadmin@philippsfamily.org" becomes "dnsadmin.philippsfamily.org". Hmmm......sounds rather similar. Does this mean the next target in court is going to be P. Mockapetris et al? I wonder when this patent was registered. The RFC1035 text says November 1987.
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Patents on future technology = ghost tech world?

Wow.....Whats next? A patent on how I move my mouse to the start bar? The size of a web page?

Too many patents on too many common things.

Well wheres the founder of the internet, Al Gore when you need help?

Well I was recently granted my patent on html and css tags so now I am seeking a company to send out my cease to use orders and start billing people anyone interested in mailing out a few million letters and make a few calls? Let me know.

Well also about that new trend...e-voting.... the word is owned by me so don't think about using it without paying me first.

Who else thinks it's time for a ban on companies which solely exist to own and license intellectual property. Sure, it won't get rid of all of the stupid patents (BT's hyperlink patent for example), but it seems like the majority of these suits are brought on by tiny companies who were able to get a vaguely worded patent through the patent office.
I agree, too many patents/ownership over common things that have been around and used by millions for a while now.
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Re: Patents on future technology = ghost tech world?

Reminds me of the child that patented swinging from side-to-side instead of front-to-back.....the whole lot of patent clerks and whoever approves these stupid patents should be canned!

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Re: Patents on future technology = ghost tech worl

Kinda off topic but does this make sense?

»news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39119181,00.htm

Microsoft has set its lawyers onto a 17-year-old software writer from Vancouver, called Mike Rowe, because he has registered MikeRoweSoft.com, which the company said infringes on its copyright.

MikeRoweSoft.com = Microsoft.com ?

found this »www.officialspin.com/main.php?ac···rid=1222 I think I understand it now.
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Re: Patents on future technology = ghost tech worl

By the way, I've already filed my patent on the "e" prefix. Therefore, anyone who uses the terms email, ecommerce, ebook, or e-anything has to pay up or I'll sue! That goes for you too, Ebay!

Sheesh... I should have become a lawyer instead of a programmer.

JRKy
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Please help me...

I HAVE used hyperlinks
I HAVE used open source code
I HAVE used gif compression
I HAVE downloaded music

I'm starting Patent Non-Payers Anonymous (PNA)... unless "PNA" is already patented then I'll change it.
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dosbubba

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Another interesting patent

»www.internetnews.com/bus-news/ar···/1446781

ActiveBuddy (makers of SmarterChild on AOL Instant Messenger) was granted a patent for automated response programs on IM services.

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The Fall of the Internet

This will be the sad ending of the internet.

Dreadwing6
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Re: The Fall of the Internet

We can all expect Microsoft to patent the BSOD
ReneMH

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Re: The Fall of the Internet

That would be great!
I refuse to pay therefor they will not happen/occur to me anymore ?

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Re: The Fall of the Internet

But then there would be a "Black Market" for the BSODs... or would that be a Blue Market?

Hmmm. Some guy walks up to you on the street and opens his trenchcoat... "Hey buddy? You want a BSOD? I Got XP and NT here!"

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Question

Greeting,

According to the legal system, can we sue the government for granting unreasonable patents?
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Re: Question

said by lawrence171 See Profile:
Greeting,

According to the legal system, can we sue the government for granting unreasonable patents?

Can't sue the government unless you can prove gross negligence. Though, in this case, I'll make an exception.
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Jsouth

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An idea

I say we petition the Supreme Court to hear the argument that what the internet is made up of now (hyper links, scroll bars etc) has been out for years without a patent and as so it is unpatentable because it is public domain. The real "makers" of the internet(no not AL Gore) didn't make the features for financial profit. They made it for institutional research and as such made the basics "open sourced" and as such no one can patent those said products.
grayem

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Re: An idea

Well lets just patent every problem we solve in news groups and forums and charge these same companies for use of our solutions to problems they create.
jsouth
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Re: An idea

Wouldn't work. It's posted in a public forum and so falls under public domain.

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What else do you expect...

...from 3rd rate corporations who have given up on innovation.

There should be a claim limit...you should have to file a patent within 90 days of creation otherwise it becomes part of the public domain.
NoFatChicks
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EmPeRoR Of ThE InTeRnEt

I have declared myself “EMPEROR OF THE INTERNET” ; As such, I lay claim to all technologies coming from said entity - all other claims are null and void. Furthermore, all will pay my tribune for the use of MY internet. Its all mine gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!

All bow before your new Emperor and extol upon me your laurels and tribune.

Cougar311

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HeHe

I am gonna Sue Myself. Ha, There!!!

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Since everyone is laying claim to something

I hearby lay claim to the nickname: Nightfall

I was the first one to use it on the internet and therefore I should be able to claim it right?
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Varangian

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Re: Since everyone is laying claim to something

Does a 1982 worldwide fight on airfight count as a proto-internet?

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Declare software patents "null and void"

I have the patent hanging on my wall for "Interactive Code Format Transform for Communicating Data Between Incompatible Information Processing Systems" - #4,559.614, that's "file transfer" for you folks that don't speak "patent gibberish". So, pay me every time you do a file transfer. There are several others hanging there with it that represent the last 15 years I worked at IBM.

On the other side of the coin, I would like to see all software patents declared "null and void". In fact, I would like to see patents go back to the original scheme where you had to build, at least, a [physical] model of the thing you were applying to patent. If you can't build something you can put your hands on, then it's not patentable.
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Re: Declare software patents "null and void"

said by McSummation See Profile:
In fact, I would like to see patents go back to the original scheme where you had to build, at least, a [physical] model of the thing you were applying to patent. If you can't build something you can put your hands on, then it's not patentable.
I hope you wouldn't expet a working model... My patents for Warp Drive and Flux Capacitors are almost apporved. ;)
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SaBo7Ge

join:2003-03-12
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If god made me king

This whole licensing BS needs to stop as it stifles creativity & innovation. If god made me king I'd make it so licensing was a thing of the past and the only way you make a profit is by creating a better product.. Then again this wouldn't protect those that simply try and leech off the world for a simple idea..
andreo

join:2001-03-30
Des Moines, IA

Re: If god made me king

It's pure greed! It's bad enough that companies try to lay claim to such things as: "let's roll", "shock and awe", scroll bars, hyper-links, and so on. I also seem to remember a story about someone or some company that wanted to copyright some common word, but I just can't seem to recall what it was now (I try so hard to push such non-sense out of my head).
It's even worse when they try to make money on these things and start pulling people into court. It's the "get rich quick" attitude and the fact that some people can manage to sleep with themselves no matter what they do, ie; fat burning pills, hair growing lotions, and now "I invented that first itis". I may have had a bit more respect... well honestly I wouldn't have given it much thought if they would have just wanted to let everyone know that they believed themselves to be the inventor of some of the things that we enjoy while surfing around and that we should go on enjoying what they created oh so many years ago.

Varangian

join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL

Hmmm

With all these greednicks closing in, Im seriously considering a return to pen, ink, and snail mail.
It's prettier, and I don't have to fight every grasping charlatan in the world to use it.

swsamurai
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Re: Hmmm

Problem there is that not many people remember how to do that.

Schools do not even teach penmanship anymore! Sucks.

swsamurai
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Lawyers

The greatest thing that can happen in this world, would be for all these lawyers that actually take these cases, to get Explosive Spastic Diarrhea and Flatulence!

Trel
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Hillsborough, NJ

Why can't anyone remember

I patented the act of patenting something.

FLECOM
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Re: Why can't anyone remember

said by Trel See Profile:
I patented the act of patenting something.

sadly, im sure your patent would get approved
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Samwoo

join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

Re: Why can't anyone remember

hmmm.... maybe someone could claim a pattent for the pattent ofices database and then sue the patent office
Facekhan

join:2002-05-01
Gaithersburg, MD

Re: Why can't anyone remember

Part of the reason for this is that the Patent Office is one of the few government agencies that is self-sufficient. Its funding comes from the fees it collects to examine and grant patents. The problem is that it became much more interested in how many patents it can grant (and the money it collects for granting them) than actually making sure patent applications are valid.

FLECOM
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said by Samwoo See Profile:
hmmm.... maybe someone could claim a pattent for the pattent ofices database and then sue the patent office

ROFL, DO IT!!!!

I'm sure you could!!!
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