 | | This is just a test for the reaction I predict that this was just announced to see what the reaction to the announcement of it will be. I'm betting that they retract this increase within 2 weeks. 23.90 is an outrageous rippoff when the lucky f***s with OOL are paying just $6 more for a T1 line and probaly a totol of $70 for digital cable + all the movie channels+ the T1 line. | |
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 |  BCali join:2000-08-13 Hewlett, NY | Re: This is just a test for the reaction they won't retract this. They need this rate hike after their buy of TW. Everyone knew this was coming, no surprise. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: This is just a test for the reaction If it's the purchase of TW that's costing them money, then raise the rate for cable modems to match AT&T's increase to $45.95. That would totally be accepted. $21.95 is already a rippoff. Only a total sucker will pay $23.90. | |
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 |  |  |  BCali join:2000-08-13 Hewlett, NY | Re: This is just a test for the reaction some info on why the price increase
The price increase is intended to help AOL fund improvements to its service. Upgrades include the next software enhancements provided in AOL 7.0, which is due to be released by the end of the year. AOL 7.0 will increase the integration of local and broadband content and enhance other areas, such as personal finance, entertainment, and news and sports. In the last three years, AOL has invested $3.5bn in its Internet service.
AOL will also work to expand itsAnywhere services, which make popular features such as e-mail and instant messaging available via the telephone, television, and handheld devices. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: This is just a test for the reaction Most of these are for broadband upgrades which would give reason to increase in cable modem rates. Upgrading from 6.0 to 7.0 with little noticble difference shouldn't require a price hike. If they get away with this and still increase the number subscribers at their rapid rate, then it proves more than anything else that the masses aren't screaming for broadband yet. | |
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I agree that AOL does have alot of problems, especially the "AOL Adapter" that installs itself into your network settings. I don't really test out betas all that often, i'm really just in it to get the benefits of trying out new things that AOL comes out with before the public ever hears about it. For instance, AOL by Phone started beta in September, 2000 and beta members got free use of it until February, 2001. Another example would be, 6 months of free use (and free install) of AOL Plus powered by DirecPC. Maybe one day AOL will actually have quality content, and TRUE broadband access available. Until that day comes, I figure that $9.95 a month is worth it to keep from having to teach alot of relatives how to use the real internet. -- Justin Sacramento, CA buggyboyca@aol.com | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AH THE DREADED aOL ADAPTER said by rodrod5: this is but 1 reason why aOL sux and is a sorry company. all other isp's should figure out a cd that you can insert to kill your aOL settings then mail 1 every 2 weeks to all stupid aOL users with the words FREE on it cause an aOL user will put anything that says free in their computer. then aOL will have to put up with months of calls for others sorry software killing aOL's settings.
I know many, MANY people who have AOL (dial ups, bring your own access) and have NO problems what-so-ever. So what's the problem? Can't follow directions? -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AH THE DREADED aOL ADAPTER you are correct most aOL users are too stupid to follow directions | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AH THE DREADED aOL ADAPTER I guess that puts people, maybe like you, who can't get a simple program like AOL to work even below the level of stupid. I didn't think that was possible. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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You also learn that total morons cannot follow simple directions to install one of the simplest internet portals of all time. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: WHAT DOES AN aOL BETA TESTER DO????? Why is it the 'real morons' have to show what morons they really are by attacking those that disagree with their opinions? Get a life you POC. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: WHAT DOES AN aOL BETA TESTER DO????? said by Madahada: Why is it the 'real morons' have to show what morons they really are by attacking those that disagree with their opinions? Get a life you POC.
Why..did you see yourself in there? A difference of opinions is one thing..a demonstrated inability to follow the simplest of directions is another. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | | said by rodrod5: what do you do make sure the cd fits in the cd rom drive and that the software throughly screws up your computer??
I too am an AOL Beta Tester. We deal with some of the buggiest parts of the system. So, one would figure that AOL Beta Testers' PCs are all screwed up? That doesn't seem to be the case with all the AOL users I know.
BTW..take the coffee cup out of your CD tray and maybe you'll figure it out. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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"This was something I had anticipated," said Rob Lancaster, a Yankee Group analyst. "Their costs associated with the merger have been very high and AOL hasnt been unaffected by the slump in online advertising. Just like the rest of its smaller competitors, AOL is looking to increase its revenues. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: This is just a test for the reaction Faster?? It's 56k for gods sake, how can that get faster?? | |
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Haha! Good Point!
Message to AOL: DOWN WITH YOUR ICQ banner SPAM, Booooooo!You Hosers!
Its a conspiracy I tell ya!
"fixed" mine not sure if its appropriate to post link here, but lets just say, you can too! (although unwarranted ICQ spam is just obscene and doesn't deserve the ethical protection), I'll refrain myself. | |
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 |  Pz_ join:2001-03-31 Brownsburg, IN | Come on man, get with the times! AOL is offering its new 56 1/2K modems for only $99.95  This reminds me of a quote from Full Metal Jacket. "Want to buy this rifle? Never been fired and only dropped once." I think that sums up AOL and all its services completely. | |
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 | | rofl my broadband is cheaper than AOL now. Why in hell would I get 56k when I could get 2500/384 for the same price?  | |
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 |  | | Re: rofl Everybody knows that Canada is light-years better than the US in terms of broadband access. Why? it's socialized. All you people against all forms of deregulation of non-competitive industry get what you deserve. There's nothing wrong with regulating, even socializing an otherwize monopolistic business. Plus, notice what all the heroic stories of community activism are all about, socializing their cable. They all pay far less in cable rates and have a far better system. Can anybody give me an example of a city, state, or country owned cable system that isn't both cheaper an better than the current monopoly systems? | |
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 |  |  garmst join:2000-09-17 New York, NY | Re: rofl Cuba is socialized - how much DSL do they have? China is socialized - how much DSL do they have? Vietnam is socialized - how much DSL do they have? Russia is essentially socialized - how much DSL do they have? North Korea is socialized - how much DSL do they have? | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: rofl Way to go, spin my comment. I never said we should socialize the nation. Canada isn't a socialized nation. However, people shouldn't be afraid of socializing industries that are clearly anti-competitive and won't ever change, like cable and telco. | |
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Do you know the geographical location and capitals of the nations you just mentioned? Or you just learned of those from the news feeds you and most Americans get their education from. Some of the nations in Europe are socialist. Can you tell me which, without using the search button or looking in the book. How about making a comparison between US health care (where available) and the health care in developed socialist country. You have 5 min. and these are not multiple choice questions;0) Do you know what happened when you don't control your corporations? Have you heard of the "state within a state" concept. -- Veni,Vidi,Vici | |
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 |  |  | | Re: rofl 30 cdn for 2500/384 cable... which is rock stable 24/7. Or just less than $20 US. | |
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 |  | Anon | OH Caaaaanaaaadaaaaa! I have to say out of all the U.S. territories, they do have the best broadband. 
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 pcdebbRIP dadkinsPremium join:2000-12-03 Brandon, FL kudos:4 | someone must be angry..... ...because I havent been able to sign on all morning. Perhaps someone has attacked them? -- Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862 | |
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 Craig3281$Premium join:2001-05-01 North Palm Beach, FL | AOL has to pay for Time Warner somehow....
This isn't surprising, the buzz among some AOLCL's (Community Leaders) for the past few months has been a raise in subscription rates since the merger of AOL & Time-Warner. AOL has a stranglehold on the market already so there's no motivation to remain competitive. What's really amusing in the contention that AOL has invested to improve service, ask any AOL subscriber if their service has gotten any better? ... I think not! ... constant disconnects, bloated propritary software that cripples many OS's, now touting a release of "Almost on Line" version 7.0 when versions 5.0 & 6.0 never worked; this is total insanity and AOL will get away with hiking rates and delivering nothing new or improved. "America on Line, So simple a monkey can use it, but why would he want to?" | |
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Who would be stupid enough to pay 23.90 for AOL, plus the cost of a extra phone line. Well there is 29million idiots out there. Thats stupid AOL is making plenty of money already, now there going to stick everybody with a price hike. Who wants to pay 24.00 for spoonfed internet,crappy 56k speed, pop up ads etc. | |
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| Aol is just following the monopolistic footsteps quick, how many of you used win 3.1? Win95, winME? Better yet, any version 1.0 of any msft products... How much was 3.1? How much was Win95? Any of them "stable"... Ha, nope, but you still pay and curse afterward, right? Simply, aol is just doing the same. Make crappy products that features something other products' feature and toute its own then raise the price.
What frightens me is that we, the american often complain about choices, freedom, demand for quality. Yet, in computer/information industry, we settle for no quality, kill all competition products. I think my new battlecry will be , use/support open source, linux.  | |
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 |  | Anon | Re: Aol is just following the monopolistic footsteps Oh well. AOL is always going to have people willing to pay whatever price to use it. If you are someone who cant leave without aol (And only god knows why) then just bring your own access for $9.95 (not subject to price increase). After all if your going to spend the money go Cable/DSL then. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Aol is just following the monopolistic footsteps said by The Fly: Your assuming i pay for Microsoft Products. Microsoft can force me to use their crap, but they cant force me to pay for it i am proud to never have given that company a dime.
Does the word "thief" have any meaning for you? -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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| Hmmm, have you ever bought a computer system that came with a msft os installed? If you do, you should also received a manual/certificate with some sort of "authentication"(ie serial number, hologram-sticker). If you have, then you have just paid msft indirectly via your computer dealer. | |
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 |  | | Re: If It Wasn't So Pathetic... said by gpbarth: ...It would be funny!! AOL means 56K dial-up access (oh, yeah, DSL if you want to pay extra). "Unlimited" means you can stay on, but not too long, or you'll get a nasty-gram from AOL. All I can say is that I've "rescued" at least a half dozen people from AOL, who now have a good connection at a lower price, and can actually browse the Web without kissing AOL's nether regions. In an industry where prices should be coming down, AOL is (as Dirty Harry would have said) "a legend in their own mind." 
Not true..I have Road Runner and I access AOL for 9.95 a month. I have never been told I was on too long or pay a higher price. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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 |  |  gpbarth join:2001-03-04 Fort Lauderdale, FL | Re: If It Wasn't So Pathetic...
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Not true..I have Road Runner and I access AOL for 9.95 a month. I have never been told I was on too long or pay a higher price.
Are you on AOL 24/7? IOW, are they your provider? When a friend of mine logged into AOL and sat there for the week-end, downloading and chatting mostly, but not logging off, she was told she would be charged extra, and that she could not stay logged on that long. You see, she dialed in through AOL, they were her ISP. AOL doesn't have broadband right now, and they don't like people accessing their system for long periods of time. Try this - connect to AOL and leave it there, for 2 or 3 days. If you are not forced off within that time, you will most likely receive a warning that you are abusing the connection. Broadband connections are typically "always on." I never log off my EarthLink account, and my computers never shut down. I am truly on 24/7. That's "unlimited time."
Also, you are paying for your RR broadband connection AND your AOL connection. You are not using AOL as your ISP. If you were strictly an AOL customer, you'd be paying ~ $21.95 per month, for 56K. And you still wouldn't be getting "unlimited access" for that price. -- WARNING! Do not look directly into laser with remaining eye!
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 |  |  |  | | Re: If It Wasn't So Pathetic... I have 2 teenagers who are on it almost constantly. I will admit I haven't been on 24/7, but for many consectutive hours. Using the bring your own access program (9.95 a month) may be different then. -- Bavarian Berthold | |
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX | Re: AOL Price Hike
Two thoughts on this:
Message from AOL: "You've got a price hike" - $23.90 a month for slow connections, poor customer service, spam in your inbox, and buggy software? I think not.
Build something so easy a fool can use it, and only a fool will want to use it. -- Computers will always do what you tell them to do, but rarely what you want them to do | |
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 | | Who really gets hit hard are the people who took those $400 rebate scams in return for committing to 3 years of AOL service. They took it counting on $21.95, not $23.90. | |
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 |  | | Re: Who really gets hit hard I wasn't aware that AOL had such a deal. I know that Compuserve does, and MSN did. | |
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 | | They are going to raise the cable modem rate too? right?? I mean that would match AT&T. If this is to pay for the AOL-Time Warner merger it would only make sense to increase rates of Time warner. | |
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 | | AOL. how pathetic! $23.90 for 56k? You can find much better infos on the net than those AOL shows on their website. You simply don't know how to surf.
About 5 years ago, I used AOL when there was no other choice. It was extremely hard to cancel my account. They simply got my account alive. If I test to see if I was disconnected, they charged me. And I was so much bothered when they showed ads at the log-in and when they update my aol files at the log-out. huhuhu...
I teach "step by step," my friends who use AOL how to get connected without AOL. And by it, they get to know the real beauty of surfing the internet. -- Now, you should know I have not stupid! | |
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I think AOL brainwashes people to think that their service is good. I dont Know how they do it, It seems like nobody wants to leave and keep adding more every year. There like lemmings do anything pay anything that they are told. LOL | |
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| Re: No wonder its #1 AOL is "Number One based on the number of subscribers, and I assume paying subscribers, not the number of free disk trials that get used or screen names. It seemed like the number grew from 17 million to 29 million a bit too quickly.
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 |  |  dru join:2000-09-14 Corona, CA | Re: No wonder its #1 I am sure if a fair comparison test were developed and conducted based on speed, security, value for money, and ease of use, I am fairly sure they would take "ease of use" and fall short in other areas, especially compared to Earthlink, MSN, and other national ISPs.
Some memorable and relevant tag lines I've seen around:
AOL as #1 is like excrement for dinner - 29 billion flies can't be wrong!
AOL may say they're #1, but they actually treat their customers like "Number Two."  -- Longest sentence in the English language: "I do." | |
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 | | AOL Sucks big time. $29 and you can get T1 speed. I have Road Runner and only pay $29 with my own modem. I can't believe people are stupid enough to have AOL in 2001. I get speeds of 1500/300. Pay $8 more for these great speeds. | |
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 |  dc4072 join:2000-09-12 Ashburn, VA | Re: AOL Sucks big time. $29 and you can get T1 speed. WEll goody for you . Too bad i have to suffer because I dont have a high speed access and my cable company does not offer internet access. Looks like I will have to pay 23 bucks . | |
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You're just the type of customer AOL loves. Do a little research for gods sake! | |
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 |  |  jmc67 join:2000-08-07 Wappingers Falls, NY | Use common sense. Shop around for a real isp. For unlimited service you would be paying under 20 bucks. Keep in mind that AOL is just an ONLINE service and not a real INTERNET provider like they say they are. | |
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 |  |  jmc67 join:2000-08-07 Wappingers Falls, NY | Use common sense. Shop around for a real isp. For unlimited service you would be paying under 20 bucks. Keep in mind that AOL is just an ONLINE service and not a real INTERNET provider like they say they are. | |
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| Use common sense. Shop around for a real isp. For unlimited service you would be paying under 20 bucks. Keep in mind that AOL is just an ONLINE service and not a real INTERNET provider like they say they are.
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 jmc67 join:2000-08-07 Wappingers Falls, NY | AOL, ISP look again!!!
Who thinks AOL is an Internet provider? Not!!! Number 1 service? Yeah for the suckers!!! AOL is not an internet provider but an Online service like Prodigy online service which is no longer around.
Those who have AOL, get a real internet provider with unlimited access for under 20 bucks and stops paying high prices for online service which doesn't really give you full internet access and who treats you like a baby trying to censor out just about everthing.
OOL rocks the boat at $29.95
just my 2 cents
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There's an article from the ZDNet anchor desk about the AOL price hike. Looks like Steve Case is going to get very popular - with his competitors. »www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories···hpnews02 -- Computers will always do what you tell them to do, but rarely what you want them to do | |
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