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join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs:  | RE Considering AT&T does not have much 3G coverage except in major metropolitan areas, let's see how the sales do. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
| Re: RE Sorry for being off topic but, I just noticed your avatar. I watched EFC all the time when it was on. I have I believe Season 3 on DVD, haven't gotten S4 or 5 and cannot find Seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. The Taelons were cool. LOL...anyway, back to topic....
I recently used AT&T and was not happy with their network performance. They definitely had some capacity issues. I wonder if it was the fault of the iPhone. | |
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atuarre
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join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
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| Re: RE said by Steve B  :Sorry for being off topic but, I just noticed your avatar. I watched EFC all the time when it was on. I have I believe Season 3 on DVD, haven't gotten S4 or 5 and cannot find Seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. The Taelons were cool. LOL...anyway, back to topic.... I recently used AT&T and was not happy with their network performance. They definitely had some capacity issues. I wonder if it was the fault of the iPhone. Were you using 3G or EDGE? EDGE has sped up some, but it is still very slow. There is no 3G coverage here, so...I cannot comment on that, but from what I know of the build out, they are focusing on major metropolitan areas first.
People who already purchased an iPhone also, I think, will not be purchasing the new device whenever the launch date for the new device is. Hopefully, this time, instead of having people in lines, they will just sell it like a regular phone.
Off topic, you can find all that EFC stuff on-line; just gotta know where to look as S1 and S2 were not released because a different company, to my understanding, produced them.
The new iPhone is just another way for Apple to rape money out of its users. They released one in '07, and now in '08 they have released another, and unless they found a way to improve the battery life, I do not think it will be worth the money. You can barely use the EDGE version as the battery life is pathetic. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
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April 25th, @09:28AM
| Re: RE Off topic.....I know where I can get the other two seasons. Its too bad Seasons 1 and 2 were never released.
I live in Seattle which is a major metro market. It is a 3G market. The phones I had were 3G and the performance for voice sucked pretty bad. It look a long time for a call to connect if it would go through at all. Although, I do believe the latter part is capacity issues on the receiving end's carrier too. The data portion was ok though. I couldn't get used to the lag in call connections and call drops so I left AT&T. | |
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gonefishing
@sbcglobal.net
| WTH are you talking about. iPhone battery life is FANTASTIC. Way beyond anything I've ever used before. Including Motorola's, LG, Nokia, Samsung. Including BlkJack, Razr, Shine, N65, Blackberry and several other run of the mill standard every things the same pieces of junk.
I have used my iPhone on a 8 hour flight to EU and watched 2 full movies, Listen to few dozen songs, Browsing pics. Landed, used it to make couple dozen calls, map, checking and responding to dozens of emails will in cab. Updated sales charts at web server. Got to hotel, took lots of pics and emailed them to wife. Got caught in a SMS chat session for hour or so back and forth. Forgot to plug in phone and fell asleep. Next morning, still 1/4 charge.
Stop making crap up. iPhone battery life is unbelievably good | |
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atuarre
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join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
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| Re: RE said by gonefishing :
WTH are you talking about. iPhone battery life is FANTASTIC. Way beyond anything I've ever used before. Including Motorola's, LG, Nokia, Samsung. Including BlkJack, Razr, Shine, N65, Blackberry and several other run of the mill standard every things the same pieces of junk.
I have used my iPhone on a 8 hour flight to EU and watched 2 full movies, Listen to few dozen songs, Browsing pics. Landed, used it to make couple dozen calls, map, checking and responding to dozens of emails will in cab. Updated sales charts at web server. Got to hotel, took lots of pics and emailed them to wife. Got caught in a SMS chat session for hour or so back and forth. Forgot to plug in phone and fell asleep. Next morning, still 1/4 charge.
Stop making crap up. iPhone battery life is unbelievably good
Umm...alright "anonymous" user. I have an iPhone. The battery life is horrible. Perhaps you should research (Google) iPhone battery life before you start to speak about things you know absolutely nothing about. Since your "anonymous" I will take what you say with a grain of salt. | |
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join:2001-07-11
Harrisburg, PA
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| Re: RE Lock ups That's why I went with Blackberry 8830. It is the ONLY converged device I ever had that actually would not lock up as you described. Palms and Win Mobiles seem to have issues when it comes to balancing the load when using wireless sync email,cal,contacts and incoming or outgoing calls. I had about 25% lock ups on those platforms.
The problem with Blackberry, was you had to invest $3000 in their Enterprise Blackberry software (supports 1000 users). Not any more! They now have a free download of the server that comes with 1 user license. Additional licenses are like $10. I have been using my 8830 for a month and have had NO lockups! I have factory bluetooth handsfree in my car and added a bluetooth stereo adapter to my car. I can talk and play music wirelessly! Who needs an iphone?  Not to bash it - I think the iphone is cool. However, if it has lock ups - it is useless for me. Any actual users (no fanboys allowed) who have real experience using enterprise syncing? Are there lockups with iPhone?? | |
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join:2004-05-24
Joliet, IL
| Just because it's a 3G phone does not mean it won't work in non 3G networks. I'm sure the sales will do just fine.. How many people bought original iPods and then forked out cash the following year to get the next version...
The ONLY thing that will crush this device is a sledgehammer.. | |
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join:2002-04-10
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| Well here's what I wonder. Are the fools that wasted their money on this overpriced piece of garbage able to flash their firmware to support 3G or does the chip within the phone limit speeds? I know hardware has a lot to do with things, but so does software. I highly doubt the people that rushed out would be given this luxury even if it was available, though. Apple wants people to toss their phones and go buy new. Sadly, there are plenty of idiots out there that will do it, too. Yes, anyone that pays 500 for a proprietary phone, then 80 to replace the battery, etc is an idiot. One would be much better off buying a Nokia with 30 FPS video capture and high quality video, than buying the Iphone. Hell, my 400 dollar sprint phone can do most of the stuff the Iphone does and I have had it 3 years now. I can even change my own battery without HAVING to pay someone as its not soldered in. | |
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DaveNJ
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New Jersey
·Patriot Media
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| Re: RE said by jc100 :Well here's what I wonder. Are the fools that wasted their money on this overpriced piece of garbage able to flash their firmware to support 3G or does the chip within the phone limit speeds? I know hardware has a lot to do with things, but so does software. I highly doubt the people that rushed out would be given this luxury even if it was available, though. Apple wants people to toss their phones and go buy new. Sadly, there are plenty of idiots out there that will do it, too. Yes, anyone that pays 500 for a proprietary phone, then 80 to replace the battery, etc is an idiot. One would be much better off buying a Nokia with 30 FPS video capture and high quality video, than buying the Iphone. Hell, my 400 dollar sprint phone can do most of the stuff the Iphone does and I have had it 3 years now. I can even change my own battery without HAVING to pay someone as its not soldered in. You cant FLASH a device to support 3G , its hardware based. As a side note 3G has features which make it worth the upgrade. Voice and Data at the same time, and 3G speeds. Another thing is that once 3G is everywhere , GSM is going to become a minority. With UMTS becoming the norm, with LTE riding its coattails.
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join:2002-04-10
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| Re: RE That's what I figured. However, you would have thought Apple would have made the phones dual band (HAH... I'm only kidding). This being the same Steve Jobs that makes IPODS with soldered batteries and charges the same 80 dollars to replace them. Apple merely makes junk and continues to upgrade it for all those gullible people willing to throw away their money. I might not be the most up to date person when it comes to technology, but I know a gimmick when I see one. Apple to me is one of those fad items best avoided. | |
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gonefishing
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: RE Wow, you really are on the "gimme something to hate" bandwagon. Someday you will learn. The quality of the iPhone make EVERY piece of junk plastic phones out there look like crap. Really, if you can't get past your need to feel part of something like the "i hate ________(insert company) products" club, you will miss out on a lot of great things in life. Oh, and you won't have to lie anymore either. And regardless what you hear on the internet... bashing something most people like really doesn't add to your coolness. | |
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join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: RE Nor does wasting 500 dollars only to blow another 500 a few months later on an upgrade that should have been included the first time around.. Can you say GULLIBLE and CHA CHING on APPLE'S part as all the people like you go and blow another 500 bucks for round 2. | |
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join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| You are an idiot.
There are plenty of companies selling iPod batteries. The only ones that are soldered in are the Nano, Touch/Phone. The rest you can replace relatively easily. And there are plenty of places that will do it for you if you're not handy.
And I'd imagine there will be companies that will do this for you with the Touch/Phone shortly.
I'd never worry about the battery life - for every cell I've replaced batteries in - usually another month or 2 later I'm replacing it anyway so it's a no brainer.
I'd rather have the goodness of the iPhone vs the POS that is Win mobile or the orphaned thing that is Palm OS (I've got a Treo 650 now). | |
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join:2002-04-10
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| Re: RE Yes and what company SOLDERS a battery in? Better yet, what companies makes a product that is highly overpriced and then simply makes a simple update it to reprice it again? I mean give me a break that Apple couldn't have done an initial launch with 3G.... People like you are the flocks that line Steve Job's pockets. Too ignorant to think about things and too quick to blow your money on them due to the logo. | |
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@gwi.net
| GSM a minority, I really doubt that.
said by DaveNJ : GSM is going to become a minority. With UMTS becoming the norm, with LTE riding its coattails. | |
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bobjohnson
join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL | I'm sold!?! I'm not an apple fan by any stretch and am definitely not for ATT at all but from what i've seen of the iphone on edge the 3g version I would (and will) probably switch to.. | |
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La vida es bella
join:2001-01-28
chile
| Re: I'm sold!?! I`ve seen an Iphone in action and I`m sold too !
And just 2 months ago, 3 major (the only ones  ) cellphone companies lighted up my city with full 3G coverage. I have a neighbord who has 3G in his laptop (usb modem) and it works just like my cable modem connection , not a single issue with the service and he can use anywhere in the country.
I`d get an Iphone 3G probably a few months after it`s released (after the second or third price drop , that`s for sure)
All the major cities in Chile now have full 3G coverage, and even small towns in the middle of nowhere now have 3G coverage too.
They have 3 tiers, 200kbps $30 dollars x month , 400 kbps $40 dollars x month and 700 kbps 60 dollars x month. (unlimited service)
It can be used with the cellphone as a modem or with a usb 3G modem. For now I`m sticking to my 2mbps cable modem service cause I have triple play with them and It cost me less than the 3g service is in my area. | |
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way2evil
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join:2007-09-14
Great River, NY | 3g I wont be buying one, 3g isnt out near me. But when they extend the coverage I will be the first one to get it. | |
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Ashburn, VA | Wow Anyone placing bets on this June 9th release date? I would take this story with a HUGE grain of salt even though everyone is expecting the 3G version very soon. | |
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jankm
join:2005-08-16
Lansdale, PA
| RE My 3G phone has EDGE. I'm guessing the 3G iPhone will be the same. So if you don't have 3G in your area and don't have an iPhone then it's still worth it. It will work as well as the current iPhone and you'll be ready when 3G is turned on in your area or you travel somewhere with 3G. | |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
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| Not Upgrading The only reason why I have an iphone it's because 1. I got the 8gig version for 200 bucks... I bought it off a buddy of mine, and 2. because I'm not paying for the service.
I am using my crackberry's sim card in it. I like the phone I'm not crazy about it though. It works well as an iPod.
I'm walking around with a sprint ppc6800 that does everything that iphone wishes it could do. The feature that I like the most about my WinMobile phone is that I can use it as a modem. | |
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join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: Not Upgrading said by flyingjoey :I'm walking around with a sprint ppc6800 that does everything that iphone wishes it could do. The feature that I like the most about my WinMobile phone is that I can use it as a modem. That's what I have too, it works great but I guess i'm just looking at the cool factor.. But I think apple will add the things that are missing from the first version | |
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atuarre
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join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
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| Re: Not Upgrading said by bobjohnson :said by flyingjoey :I'm walking around with a sprint ppc6800 that does everything that iphone wishes it could do. The feature that I like the most about my WinMobile phone is that I can use it as a modem. That's what I have too, it works great but I guess i'm just looking at the cool factor.. But I think apple will add the things that are missing from the first version Yeah... NO. Apple will not do shit. They sold all these EDGE iPhones and the only major thing they have had to offer since their release is the iTunes WiFi store, and little patches along the way. They are not even accepting a lot of the developers which are applying for their SDK.
And I guess a month or two down the road, after they release the new, 3G iphones, the price will drop by $100-$200 dollars, just like they did before.
Apple has not done anything major with the iPhone yet and if you follow the community, you will find a great device with a lot of broken promises and disappointment. | |
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gonefishing
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: Not Upgrading "They are not even accepting a lot of the developers which are applying for their SDK."
Just to let you know so you don't have to use misinformation in your bash attempts.. THe SDK program is in BETA. The BETA program ends soon and even you or your sister can have the SDK. But in BETA, of course its limited. Like every single BETA ever started. | |
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atuarre
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join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
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| Re: Not Upgrading said by gonefishing :
"They are not even accepting a lot of the developers which are applying for their SDK."
Just to let you know so you don't have to use misinformation in your bash attempts.. THe SDK program is in BETA. The BETA program ends soon and even you or your sister can have the SDK. But in BETA, of course its limited. Like every single BETA ever started.
Apple is already accepting people for the SDK program, so again, "anonymous" get over yourself. | |
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bobjohnson
join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: Not Upgrading What I don't get is that not only the people in these forums but alot of people I know complain and are pissed off about apple upgrading stuff all the time... Do other companies not upgrade to stuff that is not compatible with the old versions all the time or am I missing something | |
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@pacbell.net
| Dude quit complaining and get rid of your iphone. If you are upset with the fact apple hasn't done any upgrading with the firmware or sdk's, then jailbreak it as I have done, you will unlock a whole new iphone world. This phone is hands down the best phone out there even with the lack 3g or mms. If being anonymous makes your opinion void then pm me on howardforums.com: dropn1s
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JackJohnson
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stufried
Premium
join:2003-10-13 | 3g Battery Life I have an HTC 3g device and my biggest problem with it is that it SUCKs battery life. I wonder if Apple has fixed it.
Also I can tell you that I go through at least four times as much data usage as the 100 megs listed. | |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | Re: 3g Battery Life Purportedly the reason Apple has made us all wait this long for a 3G iphone is the battery suckage you refer to. So, I would assume they've resolved the issue in some manner. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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| Re: 3g Battery Life said by djrobx :Purportedly the reason Apple has made us all wait this long for a 3G iphone is the battery suckage you refer to. So, I would assume they've resolved the issue in some manner. If they allowed replaceable batteries, then you could charge 1 offline while using 1. And that would end the battery problem.
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Turlockaviator
@clearwire-dns.net | CDMA When is a non-GSM CDMA version of this guy coming out? Something that doesn't restrict us to AT&T\Cingular or T-Mobile. Give me an iPhone on the Sprint Vision network... | |
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join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| said by Turlockaviator :
When is a non-GSM CDMA version of this guy coming out? Something that doesn't restrict us to AT&T\Cingular or T-Mobile. Give me an iPhone on the Sprint Vision network...
Probably never. Because CDMA is primarily a US standard and the market is mostly GSM in the rest of the world. Which means they can design once and deploy in most places.
Not to mention I've found the AT&T network to be superior to Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile. Been with them the longest of all the other carriers and am the happiest. It's a little more expensive than the bargain basement carriers, but infinitely more reliable. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | cdma is becoming more and more irrelevant, Verizon is going LTE, and So is ATT. When LTE gets here, we will see alot of cool phones. | |
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impala
join:2008-03-08
Clemson, SC | europe first I'll bet it comes out in Europe first where their partners' network is more 3G ready than ATT. And probably not before WWDC. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
·Comcast
|  New iPhone leaked info
should be slightly thinner than existing models.
This report says the 3G iPhone will be thicker:
»www.engadget.com/2008/04/25/the-···thicker/
The first thing people will notice: the 2nd gen iPhone will be about the same size and shape as the first gen.
It will, of course, have 3G. And proper GPS!
The most noticeable physical difference is back of the phone is no longer metal -- the whole thing is glossy black, from top to bottom. The volume buttons are now chrome.
Because it's got a little less metal to deal with, it doesn't have quite as many angular edges. The battery is (still) not removable.
The phone itself will be slightly thicker than the first gen device.
The headphone jack will no longer be recessed, and will finally be flush with the body.
The device itself uses roughly the same size and resolution screen as the first generation product.
No solid word on battery life or storage capacity.
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | will edge iphones drop in price? Will edge IPHONES drop in price to $100 or $200 since they won't make them anymore? If so I might just get an EDGE IPhone. | |
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