 RayWPremium
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kudos:1 | I know that a lot of people use their phone as a laptop But this is getting a bit high.
All I want is the ability to call anywhere anytime for about 10-50 minutes a month.
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join:2003-05-20
Salisbury, MD | Re: D'oh! said by djrobx:First early iPhone adopters get news that their phone dropped a whopping $200 in price within months of purchase. With this news their iPhones have now become both outdated and overpriced. Ouch!  I am glad to hear they're coming out with a 3g model though. That will be a killer combination. -- Rob I second that....price drop and a new model a few months later...thats gota hurt :X | |
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2 edits | Re: D'oh! said by aviper9:I second that....price drop and a new model a few months later...thats gota hurt :X sucks to be a dumbass. (referring to the people who waited in line to purchase a $600 toy, etc.)
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| | | | | Re: D'oh! I disagree. They were dumbasses to wait in line to buy that overpriced thing before any of the things that have happened since then. This only amplifies the dumbassedness. | |
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| | | | | | Re: D'oh! The jealousy I see here is unreal.
EVERY piece of technology is continually losing its value. For that matter, that includes cars, trucks, boats, etc....
My values are none of your business. You might want to spend your money on a depreciating asset like a boat, or a new laptop, or a CD of your favorite artist.... there's no difference. It's an entertainment expense, and at $399, it's cheaper than MOST hobbies. | |
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| | | | | Re: D'oh! Right. And to think I actually waited in a line for hours to buy said computer. NOT! | |
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|  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | The price you pay for saying "Look what I got" not trying to be mean but that is what most people bought it for that is why I generally wait about a year to ge the bugs worked out and the price to be lowered.
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| |  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And PolicePremium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | Re: D'oh! Yea, I still remember when a moto razr was like $500 with a contract, and how buggy as hell it was.
Nowadays you can get a very bug-fixed one free with a contract, or an unlocked one from motorola for about $210 with an accompanying bluetooth headset.  | |
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| | | said by djrobx:First early iPhone adopters get news that their phone dropped a whopping $200 in price within months of purchase. With Welcome to the world of high tech... | |
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|  BloodRosesAeolus, your daughter flies.Premium
join:2003-03-17
Louisville, KY
1 edit | It was, in my opinion, a poor choice from Apple to not include 3G from the beginning. Why invest in old technology? We knew the entire world has ALREADY migrated to 3G, and most of the U.S. as well by the time it was released. I'm more concerned with UMTS here, not necessarily 3.75 and 4G services like HSDPA.
It was about as stupid as putting a G4 in a Mac Mini, and the people that bought them? Well, they're self explanatory.
I may consider one when they offer 3G. 400$ is ridiculous when you factor in it includes a contract, but I do think Apple is going somewhere with their concept. | |
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 |  How is Apple going to improve battery life for 3G ?
There is no 3G iPhone as yet because, as Jobs said at the launch, the "The trade off with 3G [in battery life] is too bad right now." And between now and 1Q 2008, what is going to change regarding battery capacity? No new battery tech is available. Will the 3G radio chips change enough between now and then to reduce power draw? Or will Apple make a bigger, thicker iPhone to handle a bigger battery for 3G use?
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join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA | Re: How is Apple going to improve battery life for 3G ? 3G is available in Valencia? When did this happen? Serious question, not trying to be an ass.
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Sunland, CA | Re: How is Apple going to improve battery life for 3G ? We got a Starbucks here so we are moving on up! How are the speeds? Did you do any speed test?
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| | ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 | Re: How is Apple going to improve battery life for 3G ? said by moonpuppy:said by ThrowDemsOut:Jobs: There is no 3G iPhone as yet because, as Jobs said at the launch, the "The trade off with 3G [in battery life] is too bad right now." And between now and 1Q 2008, what is going to change regarding battery capacity? No new battery tech is available. Will the 3G radio chips change enough between now and then to reduce power draw? Or will Apple make a bigger, thicker iPhone to handle a bigger battery for 3G use? How about a removable battery? There you go dreaming the impossible dream.
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|  DaveDudeNo Fear
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| said by ThrowDemsOut:Jobs: There is no 3G iPhone as yet because, as Jobs said at the launch, the "The trade off with 3G [in battery life] is too bad right now." And between now and 1Q 2008, what is going to change regarding battery capacity? No new battery tech is available. Will the 3G radio chips change enough between now and then to reduce power draw? Or will Apple make a bigger, thicker iPhone to handle a bigger battery for 3G use? There is supposed to be a new chip, which is much better then it is now. The chip will use less energy so its better battery life. 3g should have included some of gsm's battery saving aspects.
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|  n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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| This comment in general makes me wonder about the performance of other 3G phones as they start to roll out. 2G phones have finally gotten decent battery life and now we are going to go back to the AMPS days under 3G?
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|  mlernerPremium
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| said by ThrowDemsOut:Jobs: There is no 3G iPhone as yet because, as Jobs said at the launch, the "The trade off with 3G [in battery life] is too bad right now." And between now and 1Q 2008, what is going to change regarding battery capacity? No new battery tech is available. Will the 3G radio chips change enough between now and then to reduce power draw? Or will Apple make a bigger, thicker iPhone to handle a bigger battery for 3G use? Keep in mind, the iPhone was in development for at least a year before launch. | |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | That timeline doesnt make sense..... Who would buy a "euro" iPhone in early November knowing that within as little as two months the 3G version would be available?? Dont get me wrong, I am sure people will line up to buy this but the timing is terrible. Most 1st generation products are released at least 12 months (if not 18+ months) before their successor comes out so that the company can make enough profit. Releasing a newer, better, faster version a short time afterwards is terrible planning on behalf of the providers. If nothing else, they should simply have waited the few weeks (with no release) and then dropped a 3G iPhone on everyone. THAT would have created some serious demand, and no cannibalization of their own product line either.....
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|  PhoenixDown-- Wants FIOSPremium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Re: That timeline doesnt make sense..... Its bad enough that stateside, Apple released the iphone then dropped by the price by $200 on the 8 gig model within 2 months but now they are going to release a 3G phone a few months after that?
I accept all responsibility but I'm never going to be an earlier adopter of apple products again. And considering this was my first major apple purchase, I don't think I will be as excited to buy anything else from them in the future. | |
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| | | | Re: That timeline doesnt make sense..... I think most Apple fans expected Apple to simply make the cell phone market like the iPod/Macintosh markets... i.e. no big price decreases.
Apple missed a chance to change the cell phone market for the better (from a vendor perspective, anyway). | |
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | price will the price in Europe be the same as the USA at launch or now? | |
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join:2001-01-17
Madison, AL | £269 ($373)??? Shouldn't that either be €269 or $542? | |
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 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | I can see the current apple i phone customers now lined up with their phones wanting apple to exchange them for the 3G model in 6 mos. time.
"Steve..you never told us!" 
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| | Remember the "Newton"? All the Iphone "hype" just makes me more and more excited about the future -- as all this annoying "buzz" fades into the ambient, the Iphone will take a seat right next to it's long-forgotten cousin, Newton!
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T DSL Service
| Being on the bleeding edge means you get cut That's the thing... Having to be first, to be "Cool" to be on the "Bleeding Edge" of technology means that you get cut.
Quickly, features, stability, pricing improves for the people who waited patiently. The early adopters are like the Guinea Pigs and Beta Testers, and they end up having to "re-upgrade" or pay more.
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | WOW! And the fanboi's talk **** about M$?!?! Makes me laugh when you see all the trash talk about Microsoft in the Aplle forums about the M$ greed and here is Apple topping all that Billy Gates has ever done. This even beats out the Windows ME ripoff. | |
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| | | Re: WOW! And the fanboi's talk **** about M$?!?! Yeah, can you believe it! Apple has the nerve to release an update to their product after it has been on the market for a mere seven months. On top of it all, the new version addresses the biggest complaint consumers had regarding the old model!
Bastards!
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| | MidakDoctors suckPremium
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Yonkers, NY | Re: WOW! And the fanboi's talk **** about M$?!?! Sarcasm? Your arguement might have some merit if Apple actually agreed to replace the soon-to-be obsolete units with the new one, at least at a huge discount. The poor fools who got locked into a 2 yr deal just might agree with me. | |
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| | | | | Re: WOW! And the fanboi's talk **** about M$?!?! Very sarcastic.
When you buy a piece of technology, you have to accept that it will become better and cheaper down the road. I don't care how much you paid for it or how quickly the price drops - that's the nature of technology.
NO company - not Apple, Microsoft or anyone else - should feel obligated to refund customers for purchasing a now-obsolete product or a product that just received a price drop.
If a person was willing to pay $499 for a EDGE iPhone and was happy with that purchase at the time, I see no reason for that to change with the release of a new model or a price drop.
As always, buyer beware!
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And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with someone buying a new, bleeding-edge product. They just have to realize the risks involve, and STFU with the whining when something better comes out.
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| Get ready for the whining.... I am just waiting for the first Apple cultist to start complaining that they will release a 3G model. So how much do you think they are going to demand from Apple this time around?
The Apple devotees will really start to get a shock now that Apple is in the phone business. It's a whole new world.... | |
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join:2004-06-26
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| At this point I yawn with each new Apple release and flip the page. I'll spend the dough on the new OS 6 to 12 months after release, but that's it for awhile. Apple Elites® will continue, as always, to ante up revenue for every shiny, skinny toy Jobs can put on a glass display table or giant overhead; I'm not so sure on the 'early adopter butt-monkeys' next time around ...
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4 edits | BlueTooth 2.0 on Touch is the answer Apple should have put bluetooth 2.0 on the Touch. Then you could connect it to any BT2.0 phone on EVDO or HSDPA and have broadband.
Does Apple have absolutely no foresight anymore?
In the meantime, I'll stick with a 3G PDA. My Treo can play and STREAM most any audio/video codec, has BT, EVDO, real keyboard, SD card, replaceable battery and oh yeah, runs thousands of cool apss and games. Apple is just too limiting. | |
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|  justbitsMore fiber than ATT can handlePremium
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL | Re: BlueTooth 2.0 on Touch is the answer The lack of Bluetooth on the iPod Touch is likely due to a non-competition clause with AT+T for the iPhone. | |
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1 edit | Re: BlueTooth 2.0 on Touch is the answer said by justbits:The lack of Bluetooth on the iPod Touch is likely due to a non-competition clause with AT+T for the iPhone. huh? How would this fall under a non-compete? You can't make a call with the Touch. | |
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| | | justbitsMore fiber than ATT can handlePremium
join:2003-01-08
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1 edit | Re: BlueTooth 2.0 on Touch is the answer Bluetooth is commonly used for telephony accessories. With that one feature, iPod Touch would be an iPhone without a camera or a cell phone (ignoring the software differences). The less product differentiation there is between feature sets, the more likely it could be claimed to be a competing product. Especially if Apple opens the platform up for development. Then it would be simple for a third party to provide VoIP software using a Bluetooth speaker/microphone. And that's exactly what I want. A Wifi VoIP phone that's as nice as a iPhone, but doesn't have a monthly service fee. And that's exactly what AT+T wouldn't want: a potential competitor. | |
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|  intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | does ANY iPod have bluetooth? I've never understood Apple's aversion to it.
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