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Mount Airy, MD | Well Yea... For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Well Yea... said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. Yes, a lot more.
If you have an old Smartphone plan with Verizon you currently pay $30 a month for unlimited data. The new plans charge $50 a month for 1GB of data and $15 per GB overage.
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by pnh102:said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. Yes, a lot more. If you have an old Smartphone plan with Verizon you currently pay $30 a month for unlimited data. The new plans charge $50 a month for 1GB of data and $15 per GB overage. Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. | |
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| Re: Well Yea... said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small.
let's have fun with math.
Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA! | |
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Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| Re: Well Yea... said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small. let's have fun with math. Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90 Share Everything 2 GB plan $100 price difference $10 . TA DA! That is still $20 more than I pay for unlimited for the 2GB price you quote. After taxes it would be closer to $100 which brings it inline to $20 more than the $78 I pay after taxes.
And it might not be the norm, but the bulk of people I personally know with Verizon phones have unlimited data. And unfortunately with the new pricing I will be forced to keep the plan I have as long as possible. And I'll probably be forced to leave Verizon at some point if I get forced to their shared plans. What would I have to end up paying, double for my usage with the new shared plans? That is a crazy amount to pay for just one phone. | |
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Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA!
That's just slightly disingenuous. Not long ago a minimal plan was:
450 minutes + 250 text messages + unlimited data was $45 + $5 + $30 = $80.
Now a minimal plan is $100.
Price difference: An additional 25%. TAH DAH!
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said by BF69:let's have fun with math.
Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA!
The pricing was very carefully calculated to maintain existing revenue for the same level of service. My wife and I:
700 talk/text plan: $99.98
My unlimited data: $29.99
Her 4GB (double data promo) plan: $30
22% discount: ($26.40)
Total: $133.57
New system:
2 x smartphones: $80
4GB of data: $70
22% discount: ($15.40)
Total: $134.60
Essentially the same price, I deliberately picked the 4GB data plan to roughly match what someone would have with two lines on the old entry level (2GB) data plan.
The plans really save money for multi line accounts where people don't use a lot of data. If I was willing to give up Pandora my wife and I would average 600-800MB/mo and could safely get away with the 1GB plan. In that instance our bill would be $119, a yearly savings of $175, which is real money for most of us. | |
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That's a new iPhone each and every year. Add in the taxes that are through the roof and the savings add up to even more. | |
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| said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small. Care to provide and share a link to your guarantee or is this just like all the other made up make believe drivel you see floating around the interwebz. Thought so. Hmmmm, any chance you are employed by Verizon?
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| | | | | | | | said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small. let's have fun with math. Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90 Share Everything 2 GB plan $100 price difference $10 . TA DA! I think people that have had verizon for awhile, it is the norm for them to have unlimited data. My whole family and many friends have verizon and most of them still have there grandfathered unlimited data. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. But that just makes it worse. If you're paying $30 a month for 2GB, the cheapest Verizon Share Everything option is now $50 for 1GB, before overages. You pay $20 more and lose half your data.
If you want 2GB with Share Everything, you pay $60 a month for that. You pay $30 more for the same exact data you had before.
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by pnh102:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. But that just makes it worse. If you're paying $30 a month for 2GB, the cheapest Verizon Share Everything option is now $50 for 1GB, before overages. You pay $20 more and lose half your data. If you want 2GB with Share Everything, you pay $60 a month for that. You pay $30 more for the same exact data you had before. Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account.
Old pricing $2 GB data $30 unlimited texting $20 TOTAL $50. Share Everything unlimited texting and 2 GB data =$60. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by djrobx:But what if I don't want unlimited texting?
Well go with another carrier | |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account. Texting is worthless, and that is why I do not factor it in. If you have any data plan you should have carrier-based texting blocked and be using any number of zero cost alternatives.
Anyone who is a regular on THIS website should NOT be paying for texting.
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by pnh102:said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account. Texting is worthless, and that is why I do not factor it in. Um you HAVE to factor it otherwise you just fudging the numbers to prove you point. Which is basically like lying. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Well Yea... said by BF69:Um you HAVE to factor it otherwise you just fudging the numbers to prove you point. Which is basically like lying.
Why?
On the one unlimited Smartphone plan I have, we have carrier-based texting blocked specifically because I don't want to pay for something I can get for free with the data.
But even if you want to pay (a lot) for something that can be obtained at zero cost, that still doesn't change the fact that these plans charge a lot more for data than the previous plans, capped or uncapped. Making texting "free" adds absolutely zero value to these plans. The same goes for unlimited voice. We use about 100 minutes a month. Making that unlimited added absolutely zero value whatsoever.
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If I am fine with 450 minutes, which is the reason I was on it to begin with then you just started charging me $10 a month for nothing as your unlimited has no value to me. It is the exact same thing with texting. If I was on a 250txt plan, then I am fine with that. You changing it to unlimited and adding a $10 or $20 cost is doing nothing but raising my price as your "unlimited" has no value. | |
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| | | | | | | | said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account.
Um, who needs, who ever needed, unlimited texting? Under the old plans you could get 250 text messages for $5 or 1000 for $10.
What VZW has done is make unlimited the services for which use is dropping (voice and text) and increase the charge for the service that's climbing in use: Data.
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Um, who needs, who ever needed, unlimited texting? Under the old plans you could get 250 text messages for $5 or 1000 for $10. If you even have to ask this, you haven't seen the text messaging habits of a typical adolescent with a decent social network of friends (and by social network, I don't mean Social Networks). | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Well Yea... said by PapaMidnight:said by jseymour:said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account.
Um, who needs, who ever needed, unlimited texting? Under the old plans you could get 250 text messages for $5 or 1000 for $10. If you even have to ask this, you haven't seen the text messaging habits of a typical adolescent with a decent social network of friends (and by social network, I don't mean Social Networks). LOL! Fair enough.
But even that is probably not so much, any more. Industry trend is SMS use is dropping in favour of social media, such as *ugh* Twitter, Facebook messaging, etc.
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Aren't you doing the same? Assuming, I mean. You're assuming your light data usage applies to all, are you not?
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by jseymour:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming ...
Aren't you doing the same? Assuming, I mean. You're assuming your light data usage applies to all, are you not? Jim Nope I'm not. I'm comparing apples to apples. That's all. You can throw in unlimited but the fact is the unlimited plan was NOT available right before Verizon switched to Share Everything. It in fact had been discontinued a year before. The fact is someone signing up with Verizon on June 27th and getting old pricing and someone signing up on June 28th and getting new Share Everything pricing the difference is $10. | |
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| said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
Even if you don't have unlimited data plans, it's still more. I have an iPhone on AT&T's unlimited data plan ($30 + $40 for voice) and an iPad 2 on AT&T's old 2 GB plan ($25). That's $95.
If I switched to a shared plan, that would be $105 for 1 GB of data or $120 for 4 GB of data. That's $20/month more for about 1/4th the data. I consider that a lot more to me.
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| | | | | | | Re: Well Yea... said by Morac:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
Even if you don't have unlimited data plans, it's still more. I have an iPhone on AT&T's unlimited data plan ($30 + $40 for voice) and an iPad 2 on AT&T's old 2 GB plan ($25). That's $95. If I switched to a shared plan, that would be $105 for 1 GB of data or $120 for 4 GB of data. That's $20/month more for about 1/4th the data. I consider that a lot more to me.
You are omitting a charge of $15 per device in the shared plan. In your case, the monthly bill would be $105 for 1 GB of data + $15 for the phone + $15 for the tablet = $135. The 4 GB bucket plan will run you $150. For you to have (roughly) the same data plan as you have now your monthly bill go from $95 to $150 which is approximately a 58% increase. I can't believe people would be gullible enough to go for these plans. Then again math is not our country's strong point. | |
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Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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| Re: Well Yea... IN the end to stay on unlimited with Verizon, it will be cheaper to get an non subsidized phone. Assuming you keep the phoen for two years, it would be cheaper as well if you are talking a $30 to $40 monthly increase to switch to a shared plan.
I hope Verizon does keep this option so I can keep my unlimited data. | |
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| said by compton:said by Morac:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
Even if you don't have unlimited data plans, it's still more. I have an iPhone on AT&T's unlimited data plan ($30 + $40 for voice) and an iPad 2 on AT&T's old 2 GB plan ($25). That's $95. If I switched to a shared plan, that would be $105 for 1 GB of data or $120 for 4 GB of data. That's $20/month more for about 1/4th the data. I consider that a lot more to me. You are omitting a charge of $15 per device in the shared plan. In your case, the monthly bill would be $105 for 1 GB of data + $15 for the phone + $15 for the tablet = $135. The 4 GB bucket plan will run you $150. For you to have (roughly) the same data plan as you have now your monthly bill go from $95 to $150 which is approximately a 58% increase. I can't believe people would be gullible enough to go for these plans. Then again math is not our country's strong point. Actually I didn't omit the charge. I just didn't specifically list it.
For AT&T the shared charge is $40 for the 1 GB plan, $45 for my smartphone and $10 for my tablet. That's a total of $105 which is what I originally said. Likewise the the 4 GB plan is $70 plus $40 for the smartphone plus $10 for the table for a total of $120.
The plans are bad, but they aren't that bad. Not unless you throw in a few non-smartphones for $30 a month. That's a complete rip off.
I agree though, the new shared plans are an added tax on cell phone users who are bad at math.
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Columbus, OH | I've looked into upgrading my single line to a new phone and I'd definitely get screwed.
It's going to cost $20 per month more and I get less data. Old plan: $40 for 450 minutes + $30 for 2GB = $70 per month (not including various fees and taxes). New "share" plan: $40 for unlimited minutes + $50 for 1GB of data = $90 per month, an increase of $20 bucks. So I would pay $20 more and have 1GB less data. Since I average about 1GB of data usage a month, I'd probably have to bump it up to the next tier to avoid their $15 overage penalty. So I'd be getting screwed out of $30 a month trying to match what I previously had.
Basically, these share plans suck for the individual.
Edit - To clarify, I don't pay for texting as I don't text much. Last month I had 3 text messages. | |
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Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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| said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. I pay around $78 a month including taxes for my unlimited plan(450 voice minutes and unlimited text and data) with my Verizon 4G LTE phone(ReZound). My billing month is only half over and I've already used 8GB. So if I end up using 16GB this month what would that cost me with a shared data plan? I seriously doubt it would only be $10 more that the $78 I currently pay. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by aaronwt:said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. I pay around $78 a month including taxes for my unlimited plan(450 voice minutes and unlimited text and data) with my Verizon 4G LTE phone(ReZound). My month is only half over and I've already used 8GB. So if I end up using 16GB this month what would that cost me with a shared data plan? I seriously doubt it would only be $10 more that the $78 I currently pay. Once again not everyone has unlimited data with Verizon. Verizon stopped offering unlimited data in early July 2011 and not everyone before then had it either. I didn't and I got a smartphone in Nov 2010. I wasn't paying $30 for a data plan even if it was unlimited so I hopped on a deal where I got 150 MB for $15 a month. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Well Yea... With nominal usage, streaming 80 minutes of Sirius XM on my commute already had 184 mb. How can you stay under 150? | |
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| | | | | said by aaronwt:I pay around $78 a month including taxes for my unlimited plan... So if I end up using 16GB this month what would that cost me with a shared data plan? I seriously doubt it would only be $10 more that the $78 I currently pay.
*snort* I should say not!
10GB of data is $100/mo. Another 6GB/mo. would be an additional $30/mo. if you paid for it in advance. It's $15/GB for overages. *ouch*! So $40 + $130 = $170/mo. + taxes & surcharges.
That's a lot of data, btw. A lot...
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Camden, TN | Re: Well Yea... said by jseymour:said by aaronwt:I pay around $78 a month including taxes for my unlimited plan... So if I end up using 16GB this month what would that cost me with a shared data plan? I seriously doubt it would only be $10 more that the $78 I currently pay.
*snort* I should say not! 10GB of data is $100/mo. Another 6GB/mo. would be an additional $30/mo. if you paid for it in advance. It's $15/GB for overages. *ouch*! So $40 + $130 = $170/mo. + taxes & surcharges. That's a lot of data, btw. A lot... Jim if you feel like you will go over you can just add the extra data an back date it to the start of the billing period.
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united state | said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. $10 is a lot more. $10 x 12 = $120 dollars
I think 120 dollars would be quite helpful for many things such as the grocery bill, paying utilities, getting head on a house payment, or even just banking the money.
so yes $10 is significant...I would prefer to save that money or use it towards other things then give it to a cell phone carrier. | |
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Yup. For individual plans: Back in April VZW was on-par with Sprint. TMO was least expensive and "AT&T" most. Now VZW is right up there with "AT&T."
I'll be sticking with Sprint or moving to TMO.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Well Yea... said by jseymour:I'll be sticking with Sprint or moving to TMO. For me, switching to Sprint would still result in me paying more. I am looking at Virgin Mobile or Ting (though leaning more towards VM) instead.
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Camden, TN | forgot part 2 of the equation 40 percent of mobile phone users surveyed would rather switch mobile carriers than be forced to use a shared data plan, while 11 percent would switch providers in order to get a shared data plan
So that's net loss of 29%. Still bad but not as bad as 40%. I guess we'll see in a couple of months when Verizon's 3rd quarter report comes out. Since all new customers have to go with Share Everything this data would indicate that Verizon should see a huge drop in new customers. | |
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Satellite Beach, FL | There won't be any drop.... There will not be much of a drop if any ,not because people want this plan but because there is really nowhere to go to. I'll be changing to a VZ share plan in the next few days ( I bet you can guess why) not because I want one but because I don't have any choice. For those who say it's only a little more ($10) my bill will be increasing around $50 a month or by 50%. Why? Because I USE my phone (data) so after being forced to give up my unlimited data, and because the shared nature of the plans lets me add my iPAD, I'll have to go with the 10GB plan. | |
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Bel Air, MD | Great for us Discounters These new shared data plans are great for those of us who get corporate/military discounts.
Instead of only getting the data discounted on the primary holder's plan, it's taken off the bucket, which is for everyone. On AT&T at least, we don't get a discount on the per smartphone/device price, just the data bucket.
I'm already on a 5GB plan and gf is on 2GB. If we switch to a 10GB shared plan, we pay slightly less or the same as now for more data. We make out as winners. | |
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Palm Coast, FL
·Bright House
| I have no problem with a shared data plan.. what I do have a problem with is the greed from these carriers and the high prices of these shared data plans. I have found no instances where it will save anyone I know money. I understand it's value of sharing the data, but to charge $30 for basic phones to be added to a plan even though they won't use any data (or very little) is ridiculous. I have 3 smartphones on my account and was looking forward to a shared data plan. After seeing the prices and seeing that my bill would go up at least $40-60, I decided to stay where I'm at (I am with AT&T currently) and I'm highly considering Sprint since they've just announced they'll be releasing 4G LTE in my area. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: I have no problem with a shared data plan.. said by gigahurtz:what I do have a problem with is the greed from these carriers and the high prices of these shared data plans. My thoughts exactly. The $40 "device fee" is BS in my book. Of course you're going to be using a device.
I have found no instances where it will save anyone I know money.
Old plan: 700 minutes, unlimited texting, two 2 GB $30 data plans TOTAL $160
Share Everything with 4 GB data TOTAL $150.
In fact for $160 I can get 6 GB of data. So Share Everything I save $10 or I get 2 extra GB. Oh and I can share it AND I can use the mobile hotspot which under old pricing was $20 extra. | |
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| bnceo
join:2007-10-11
Bel Air, MD | Read my post above. People who get corporate/military discounts will save. Or pay the same and get more for their dollar. But that's it really. The rest of ya, more $$ =\ | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: I have no problem with a shared data plan.. said by bnceo:Read my post above. People who get corporate/military discounts will save. Or pay the same and get more for their dollar. But that's it really. The rest of ya, more $$ =\
Same people save, some don't, some it's a wash. It does really come down to each individual case.
Also some people think because they have 2 GB now they need to get a plan that average 2 GB per person even though no one uses 2 GB. You might have 3 people that use less than 2 GB total. So they don't HAVE to get 6 GB of data just because that's what they have now. They just have that now because they don't have a choice in the matter to get less. With Share Everything they do. | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Here an idea, LEAVE Verizon If you are so against Share Everything then LEAVE. How hard is that. Go with another carrier that will fulfill your needs. They aren't changing it back and even if they did they certainly aren't binging back unlimited data. Even cable ISPs don't offer unlimited data anymore. | |
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·Verizon FiOS
| emptying post paid customers.. this trend is increasing to prepaid unlimited plans.. and with smart phones making the rounds on prepaid that will provide all the incentive for the trend to continue. getting gouged for $90+ a month for an unlimited plan or a shared data plan is ridiculous and consumers just figuring out what they can do about it.. as their contracts expire.. they realize what's on offer now isn't a good deal-- even if it means buying a new phone to switch, they WILL | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: emptying post paid customers.. Yeah go look at Verizon prepaid smartphone plans and tell me what a better deal it is. | |
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 MikePremium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
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·Verizon FiOS
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| Except if you're screwed Sprint doesn't exist in any reasonable fashion in Pittsburgh.
ATT doesn't have any coverage in Pittsburgh.
Verizon is the only game in town where you can use your phone as a phone.
I'm forced to go to Verizon with the upcoming iPhone 5 if I wanted to use an iPhone and will have to pay more for the ability to use a phone.
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| | | Re: Except if you're screwed I'm very surprized AT&T doesn't have pittsburg covered, According to AT&T's maps AT&T has coverage in Pittsburg, but their are quite a few pockets of no coverage outside the central part of the city, surprising. | |
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | Re: Except if you're screwed It has a blob on their map but it's F- service if you can get signal. | |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | oh Oh come on, can't we all just bend over and take one for ATT/Verizon?? Seriously guys they might need the money to build a blimp or something | |
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| | decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | Re: oh For me, coverage by T-mobile is just out of reach, i'm in a partner area but that appears to be limited.. I do have a nextel tower within eye site that sprint has yet to take down so i'm hoping to hell that it will be one that they upgrade to LTE and modern sprint network ability.. I'll be jumping the train if this happens in a heartbeat | |
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 DominokatHiPremium
join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
kudos:2
·RoadRunner Cable
| BS I am a Verizon customer and have been for several years. I am on an old, grandfathered plan. 700 min voice, 250 texts and unlimited data. I also have two other voice only shared lines at 15 dollars each a month. (My mom and her husband) Total bill per month is 125 dollars.
When I upgraded my phones, in the past, as long as I renew my contract, I could keep that plan. They won't allow me to do this any more.
Now that they ONLY offer a shared data plan or pay as you go. If I want a new phone, I either have to pay full price, or sign a new contract that will up my bill to 165 a month. My mom and her husband don't hardly use 10 minutes a month and having them suddenly pay 30 dollars each is not an option. I myself hardly use 100 a month and I don't use a lot of data either. But going from 125 to 165 a month is a huge price increase for me. | |
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join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2
·Time Warner Cable
| How about giving a decent amount of data? I've looked at these plans, they suck. For the amount you're paying, the amount of data they give you is a complete ripoff.
$50 starting plan for one GB of data. Then for every smartphone you have it's $40 per phone.
So two smartphones, that's $80 per month. Then $50 for a GB of data, total cost $130 a month and we're not even talking about all of the un-fees yet. Are they completely out of their minds!?!? 1 GB of data is a laughable amount! For nearly $130 a month we should be getting at the very least 4 GBs!!!!
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vigilg
join:2006-09-07
Desert Hot Springs, CA | 3 Phones on unlimited data plan I would really like to keep my unlimited. As of right now, I use about 6 GB of data on all 3 phones and my data usage increases every year. By next year I may be using 15 to 20 GB of data on all 3 lines. No savings there it gets more expensive. I only use about 700 minutes on all my 5 lines, so unlimited calling is not something I need or want. Texting I use quite a bit but its only $20 on all 5 lines. So figure that right now I pay $260 for 5 lines and 3 unlimited data and 1 2gb data. With the new share I would pay $270 with all lines limited to 6gb data. Now if my data usage doubles in a year than my my bills goes to $300. My data usage would keep increasing as time goes by, making the share plans ridiculously high. With voice over ip and texting over the network becoming more and more common they are only protecting revenue, a few years back unlimited was all the rage on data, now revenues need to keep growing by double percentage digits every year and the only way they can do this is by getting more money from current customers since the market cant grow any more than it is now. This is why we have convenience fees, late fees, overdraft fees, phone fees, walk in fees, live person fees, activation fees, upgrade fees, access fees. In the near future we might see payment processing fees, account change fees, account update fees, privacy fees, CEO compensation fees and many others. The worst part of it is that all the companies will be doing it, so no matter where you take your business, they all will do it because they are all greedy. In a country where the stock of a company gets punished because they were successful and not super successful. Oh no you only made i billion dollars this quarter, even thought you made 20% more we were expecting 1000% more. To hell with this man, thats why I think this country is going to have a second revolution. To bad it wont happen in my life time. | |
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