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| Re: A step in the right direction Who worldwide is offering faster than 100Mb speeds residential speeds? There are some high rises in Japan that have 100Mb fiber service for residential. | |
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| Re: A step in the right direction said by DotMac  :Who worldwide is offering faster than 100Mb speeds residential speeds? There are some high rises in Japan that have 100Mb fiber service for residential. Maybe three years ago that was true. Today, numerous countries in the EU and Asia are rolling out FTTH at 100Mbps (symmetric) and higher in some cases. We're not talking about isolated apartment buildings anymore.
What's going to happen to America when so many other countries reach 100Mbps and Americans are still at 30Mbps max? You will see internet "content" cater to those other countries instead of America.
Thanks to the greed of US telecom monopolies, and the corruption of the FCC, we are in a broadband and HDTV ghetto, and the gap is getting bigger. Americans now pay more for less! | |
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| Re: A step in the right direction You say "countries" as if residents there are universally seeing 100Mb service. They aren't. Just like here, a tiny minority in dense cities get that kind of service.
There are providers here doing 20, 30, 50 and 100Mb residential service.
And it's even less true that we're in an HDTV ghetto. We get more HDTV than anyone. In my area I get close to 50 DTV channels OTA and our subscription providers like D* offer dozens and dozens of pay DTV and HDTV channels.
In every country you can find a town, village or hut that has 100Mb service and another that is lucky to get 14kbps service.
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: A step in the right direction It's not the norm, not by a long shot. Average reported speeds coming from Japan are barely over 10Mb according to Speedtest.net. Our larger cable operators offer speeds much faster than that. | |
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| Re: A step in the right direction Not buying that...
Japan and Taiwan, hell, even China sees speeds much faster then that "average". I agree with the content issue. You can not negate the fact that braodband in the US is still seen as a luxury, but when internet content starts catering to those countries in which broadband has already been seen as a right a loong time ago, the US will be in a bad spot, playing catch up. | |
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| Re: A step in the right direction A few see faster speeds. But a lot of people here see speeds faster than that average.
My point is, not everyone in Japan gets 100Mb fiber just like not everyone in the US gets 50Mb FiOS.
Broadband in the US is absolutely a luxury. You don't go from non-existance to necessity in 11 years. In the US we have tons of sources of information and entertainment which may not be the case in some of these countries where the State controls the media (eg NHK, BBC etc). We also don't have an IPTV driven entertainment system. There is simply no demand for 100Mb non-video residential service. If that were the case there would be no one buying the 7Mb Time Warner plans. Everyone would be buying "extreme" tiers.
Us not having universal 100Mb residential fiber is putting us in a bad spot is a myth. The economy isn't residential fiber driven.
Anyone who thinks that 100Mb residential broadband is a necessity that will bring the End of Days if not deployed is dellusional. Residential 100Mb speeds is not the norm anywhere on earth, not in Japan, Taiwan or China. | |
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edit* and since i'm at the top i'll put my message here. I wish ppl would complain about quality of servicy over quantity of service. I mean who really gives a damn that you can max out your hard drive's ability to write data. Thats great. Now you can download the tv shows and applications that will take you a year to actually view- in only seconds! I mean, someone can really create a mess of files with that kind of speed right?
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| Re: A step in the right direction said by dll31p :please use your head before you use your mouth. That is a politically incorrect statement. | |
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And there are hardly any servers that would be able to support your sustained download speeds, I have even noticed that downloading all my emails from Google is below 1 meg, so if a huge company like Google doesn't max out my 1.5 meg dsl, it would help with very few servers to have a 100 or 400 meg download connection.
I would figure that servers and companies would always have faster connections than the residential sector...
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| said by dll31p :you obvously dont know what you're talking about. 400 Mbps is faster than anything currently available, outside of an OC12 connection. please use your head before you use your mouth. edit* and since i'm at the top i'll put my message here. I wish ppl would complain about quality of servicy over quantity of service. I mean who really gives a damn that you can max out your hard drive's ability to write data. Thats great. Now you can download the tv shows and applications that will take you a year to actually view- in only seconds! I mean, someone can really create a mess of files with that kind of speed right? What about 40 ms latency cross country, or 0 packet loss? now thats when i'll get giddy. I agree with you. So called speed is overrated. Latency is important too. The size of the pipe is one factor.
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| But how many users will be on the 400 Mbps node? It doesn't matter about the speed unless it's a true dedicated line all that matters is how many users are on the node. Face the facts it will be useless in America as they'll saturate the node whereas in other countries it's not all about profit and stealing all the subscriber's money. | |
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| As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E 400Mbps, from the same people that can't get a stupid GUI program guide to work right. ROTFLMAO
I hear the 1Gbps deployments are already already being rolled out on the moon, and they will begin taking orders at the end of the next quarter.
No mention of WHAT moon, and WHAT next quarter, but hey, at least this testing is going on in where else but Pennsylvania, the State Verizon loves to bypass on speed upgrades.
They'll test it here, get it working, then take it away to another Fios market with promises to bring it back again SOON.. 
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| said by KA3SGM :400Mbps, from the same people that can't get a stupid GUI program guide to work right. ROTFLMAO I hear the 1Gbps deployments are already already being rolled out on the moon, and they will begin taking orders at the end of the next quarter. No mention of WHAT moon, and WHAT next quarter, but hey, at least this testing is going on in where else but Pennsylvania, the State Verizon loves to bypass on speed upgrades. They'll test it here, get it working, then take it away to another Fios market with promises to bring it back again SOON.. West Chester PA isn't exactly the tech center of the world... What do you have? QVC??? That's about it.
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by Tzale :said by KA3SGM :400Mbps, from the same people that can't get a stupid GUI program guide to work right. ROTFLMAO I hear the 1Gbps deployments are already already being rolled out on the moon, and they will begin taking orders at the end of the next quarter. No mention of WHAT moon, and WHAT next quarter, but hey, at least this testing is going on in where else but Pennsylvania, the State Verizon loves to bypass on speed upgrades. They'll test it here, get it working, then take it away to another Fios market with promises to bring it back again SOON.. West Chester PA isn't exactly the tech center of the world... What do you have? QVC??? That's about it. Thanks for getting us the AR forum though. -Tzale Yup, West Chester,PA, the home of QVC.
It's little more than a 24/7 TV commercial, and they actually charge admission for people to tour their studios.
Who the heck wants to pay to watch a live broadcast of a TV commercial???
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by Enlightener :Which is really sad considering who used to occupy that campus. Oh well... those days are gone. Yea, I miss Commodore Business Machines too.
It was cool to have Commodore anchored here in West Chester, they had a really good thing going at first, but were somewhat ill guided, and it killed them off.
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by KA3SGM :said by Enlightener :Which is really sad considering who used to occupy that campus. Oh well... those days are gone. Yea, I miss Commodore Business Machines too. It was cool to have Commodore anchored here in West Chester, they had a really good thing going at first, but were somewhat ill guided, and it killed them off. Cool, never knew that. | |
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by yositune :Alright, Commodore was great and so was CATS, but the first person to include the word 'Amiga' next to the phrase 'is not dead' get's a smack... hmmm.. We got FCC feds visiting our board... Do you guys take notice of the BS that goes on in the Broadband Industry???? Basically everyone besides Verizon??? | |
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| said by KA3SGM :said by Tzale :said by KA3SGM :400Mbps, from the same people that can't get a stupid GUI program guide to work right. ROTFLMAO I hear the 1Gbps deployments are already already being rolled out on the moon, and they will begin taking orders at the end of the next quarter. No mention of WHAT moon, and WHAT next quarter, but hey, at least this testing is going on in where else but Pennsylvania, the State Verizon loves to bypass on speed upgrades. They'll test it here, get it working, then take it away to another Fios market with promises to bring it back again SOON.. West Chester PA isn't exactly the tech center of the world... What do you have? QVC??? That's about it. Thanks for getting us the AR forum though. -Tzale Yup, West Chester,PA, the home of QVC. It's little more than a 24/7 TV commercial, and they actually charge admission for people to tour their studios. Who the heck wants to pay to watch a live broadcast of a TV commercial??? My mother... And she still thinks she is getting a good deal if one of the hosts tells her so!!!!
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West Chester is where a lot of the people who work in that area live, and just what goes on a few miles East?
South Eastern PA is a center for many Pharmaceutical companies. One notable example, Wyeth. They may not be 'IT', but pharmaceutical companies are certainly not luddites.
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by CopperMux :KA3, for all your hate, sometimes you let it cloud your opinion a bit too much. It is indeed real and trials are underway. We all know you have had some serious issues with your FIOS service and that is a huge headache but the sarcastic posts are really not doing you any good. No hate here, more like despair, and disbelief that they can build such a high tech infrastructure, and have no clue how to make it work reliably.
Now they are wasting money playing with 400Mbps Internet service to scare their competition, wow their investors, and to make their future customers wanting Fios even more.
Find me more than a handful of actual web servers that can dole out information at anywhere close to 400Mbps, and tell me what practical use that kind of speed would have for a home user.
Are we streaming 25 simultaneous HD feeds or something like that?? They aren't going to change their TOS to allow you to run servers anytime either.
That money should be spent fixing their existing problems, and getting stable, reliable, service to their existing customers.
I am paying for this so I still get to complain.
Hey, at the very least it saves me money on high blood pressure meds to vent some frustration here.
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Pittsburgh, PA | Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E Am I the only one ? who sees one person who reported experience is so utterly different than what everyone else is reporting and immediately thinks...
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| Re: As Usual, Verizon Is Full Of It.... V-A-P-O-R-W-A-R-E said by UncleDirtNap :Am I the only one ? who sees one person who reported experience is so utterly different than what everyone else is reporting and immediately thinks... Comcast plant. Probably the only reason I still have Fios is because Comcast is the Anti-Christ of corporations.
Now I'm a Comcast Troll???
Go check out the Fios boards, and tell me the only complainers there are planted by Comcast.
Hey, it's whatever you want to believe, but you're really stupid if you want to believe that....
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| said by ropeguru :Who cares when you are stuck in AT&T hell... Being in BS territory, I am still paying more for less. They will probably drag this out as long as they can for the CEO's pockets.. I feel y'all I'm stuck with ATT and Charter crap. | |
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| I am wondering what cablevision has to fight this This is getting interesting. I wonder what cablevision will do to fight this. They were going to use the narad tech (company basically got bought out of business so really doesnt exist now) to give 50/50 and 100/100 .
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| Re: I am wondering what cablevision has to fight this said by majortom1029 :This is getting interesting. I wonder what cablevision will do to fight this. They were going to use the narad tech (company basically got bought out of business so really doesnt exist now) to give 50/50 and 100/100 . I hope they start rolling out docsis 3 soon to match this. docsis 3 as far as i know is not capable of 400mbps
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and most of us can only get 5 MB/s for $50
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| ..and the rest of us will get shit on I think my subject says it all don't you think? FIOS is only available in rich upper class neighbourhoods at the moment and the rest of us still get screwed in the ass with slower speeds.
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| said by robertfl :I think my subject says it all don't you think? FIOS is only available in rich upper class neighbourhoods at the moment and the rest of us still get screwed in the ass with slower speeds. Comon Cox and others.. let's see those speeds! -Rob Upper class????? A lot of middle class towns are getting FIOS here in NJ.... They can't exactly deploy in urban areas yet due to the MDU factor... DUH!!!!
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| said by robertfl :I think my subject says it all don't you think? FIOS is only available in rich upper class neighbourhoods at the moment and the rest of us still get screwed in the ass with slower speeds. Comon Cox and others.. let's see those speeds! -Rob LOL, upscale places only? Perhaps you might want to check that roll out map.
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